Dr Who… Awesome News If You're A Fan

Dr Who… Awesome News If You're A Fan

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davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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techiedave said:
This is great dark stuff tonight.
Yup, really enjoyed that. I guess it was consciously a throwback (corridors and everything) but it felt more like "proper" Doctor Who in terms of pacing. Let's hope they hit a groove with it, because I think it was really good.

otolith

56,201 posts

205 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Enjoyed it - liked the point made earlier on about how fast he makes calculations, followed by apparently falling for a really stupid trick, followed by having been one step ahead already.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Davros stuff was mostly tedious.
How stupid was Clara not to have ever thought "open up" since that was all she had to do to get out in the end.
Liked when Missy poked Davros in the "eye".
Little or no explanation of the Essex/party "time to die soon" stuff that was in the first part ... maybe more of that as the series unfolds?
So I guess we will be seeing more of the shades then!

Morningside

24,110 posts

230 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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I liked it. I liked the fake humanity and compassion shown by Davros and thought him actually opening his eyes with the tears was a clever touch.

Was also surprised that being stuck inside something you would not think 'open'.

But...Yes another prop ready for Christmas. A pair of sunglasses.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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I'm really not 'getting it' this series.

I thought both of those episodes were awful. The didn't pass the iPad test for me, which is my litmus for most BBC things.

If I can make it the whole episode without reaching for the iPad out of boredom then it's a good one. These failed.

ajprice

27,513 posts

197 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Good start to the series, the 2 episode story format works, there's no rush to finish the story in one go. Capaldi nailed it, Missy is great (pushing Clara in the pit... '20 feet' hehe ) . Not sure on the sonic sunglasses, but let's see what happens there.

DoctorX

7,298 posts

168 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Interesting line from Missy re Clara:

"This is why I gave her to you in the first place; a friend inside an enemy, an enemy inside a friend. Everyone’s a hybrid.”

Wonder where that's going?

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Not the first time she's been inside a Dalek either.

Flip Martian

19,708 posts

191 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Capaldi I really like. The scripting I find pretty nonsensical (even putting aside this is sci-fi). It still bugs me all these years later that they had Rose "erase Daleks from existence" (ie so they never existed) and then just ignored that as soon as it suited. Missy gets exterminated and you see her get exterminated - and yet by a poorly explained plot device there she is alive and well in the next episode. So basically "take everything with a pinch of salt because we can just make anything up and explain it".

We've watched all the reboot since Ecclestone - but despite how good Capaldi is we're both now thinking "the writers are just taking the piss; this is lazy, uncreative stuff" and really not sure whether to give next week's a go. Shame; they have a fine doctor in Capaldi.

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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Flip Martian said:
Capaldi I really like. The scripting I find pretty nonsensical (even putting aside this is sci-fi). It still bugs me all these years later that they had Rose "erase Daleks from existence" (ie so they never existed) and then just ignored that as soon as it suited. Missy gets exterminated and you see her get exterminated - and yet by a poorly explained plot device there she is alive and well in the next episode. So basically "take everything with a pinch of salt because we can just make anything up and explain it".

We've watched all the reboot since Ecclestone - but despite how good Capaldi is we're both now thinking "the writers are just taking the piss; this is lazy, uncreative stuff" and really not sure whether to give next week's a go. Shame; they have a fine doctor in Capaldi.
+1. There used to be rules about how things worked, and a form of scientific explanation required for most things (OK some were ridiculous and others were routinely ignored - Blinovitch Limitation Effect anybody ?) and how the Dr. wouldn't interfere unless he had to. Now it's all just too rushed, highly dependent on "new agey" concepts and simplified in pursuit of ratings.

FourWheelDrift

88,551 posts

285 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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I like how they took on my earlier posted concept with the Davros wheelchair. biggrin


Jim the Sunderer

3,239 posts

183 months

Sunday 27th September 2015
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For a part time pacifist hippy he shot that Dalek laser gun too well.

ofcorsa

3,527 posts

244 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
Not the first time she's been inside a Dalek either.
Yupp, First time they met wasn't it?

hornet

6,333 posts

251 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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I was rather underwhelmed by the second part. Possibly just "Dalek fatigue", but the continual "aha, I knew you were going to do that!" plots are also wearing thin.

Interesting use of Tarot imagery thus far.

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Flip Martian said:
Capaldi I really like. The scripting I find pretty nonsensical (even putting aside this is sci-fi). It still bugs me all these years later that they had Rose "erase Daleks from existence" (ie so they never existed) and then just ignored that as soon as it suited. Missy gets exterminated and you see her get exterminated - and yet by a poorly explained plot device there she is alive and well in the next episode. So basically "take everything with a pinch of salt because we can just make anything up and explain it".

We've watched all the reboot since Ecclestone - but despite how good Capaldi is we're both now thinking "the writers are just taking the piss; this is lazy, uncreative stuff" and really not sure whether to give next week's a go. Shame; they have a fine doctor in Capaldi.
-1

There's no such thing as consistency or canon in the who universe. They normally just do whatever they want.

Watched it with my son on saturday evening, so far we've loved both episodes. Enjoyable saturday evening viewing.

frisbee

4,979 posts

111 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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So he's finally worked out how to use the Tardis to solve problems after hundreds of episodes.

Bill and Ted worked it out before the end of the first film!

Silver Smudger

3,299 posts

168 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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Really loving Capaldi's Doctor now - Especially the humour, which infecting others around him - Davros got the two best jokes though

Doctor - You really are dying?
Davros - Look at me, do you doubt it?
Dr - Yes
Dv - Then we have established one thing...
Dr - What?
Dv - You are not a good doctor

And the very best one -

Davros - I hope you are grateful, it wasn't easy to procure, and very nearly unique of course. You should feel privileged...

Doctor - ?















Davros - The only other chair on Skaro !

Mutley

3,178 posts

260 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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frisbee said:
So he's finally worked out how to use the Tardis to solve problems after hundreds of episodes.

Bill and Ted worked it out before the end of the first film!
But they dealt with crossing timelines and altering history with a Chris Ecclestone episode.

Sparky137

869 posts

182 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Well, I thought that was much much better tonight.

Butter Face

30,335 posts

161 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Yup, very enjoyable!