Dr Who… Awesome News If You're A Fan

[MartG]

Catatafish said:

Is Moffat the Beeb's George Lucas? surrounded by lackies none of which have the balls to tell him "this is sheet mate"

Seems that way to me...

Totally agree - when he was a writer, subject to editorial control from above, he turned in some decent scripts. Now that he's running things it seems that he's happy to film any st idea that occurs to him without getting a second opinion as to whether it is a good/consistent story or utter crap like the most recent episode. Even though he didn't write it himself, he should have been able to see that it was utter garbage and rejected the script submitted by his mate Mark Gatiss.

[JungleJim]

How come the lab-grown super soldier was some podgy bloke - wouldn't he have been like a human action man if he'd been deliberately engineered to be a fighting machine?

[FourWheelDrift]

Flip Martian said:

Jader1973 said:

I thought it was okay tbh.

Nice to see an episode where the Doctor is confused and can't fathom what is going on.

As for those complaining about it not being realistic - it is a show about an (essentially) immortal alien who travels through space and time in a machine disguised as a police box.

IT IS NOT A fkING DOCUMENTARY.

But within its sphere, it should at least demonstrate its been put together with some care and attention to the fact that the story should make some kind of sense - WITHIN ITS GENRE.

Frankly I could imagine them sat bored in a bar late 1 night saying "so what can we have monsters from this week?" and someone drunkenly saying "SLEEP DUST!"...

I agree, known quantities, known physics, known history, known geography shouldn't be changed. They can have aliens, alien tech, time travel and everything else because it's not known to exist. Anything can be added no matter how mad it is as long as it doesn't change what is currently fact.

It's like the Viking episode being solved using electric eels. Electric eels are native to South America only, the Vikings wouldn't have known anything about them let alone farm them in barrels. So coming up with a solution using electric eels was a massive cop out similar to the many sonic screwdriver get out clauses. Oh and the Vikings had horns on their helmets, you know it's written by someone who hasn't done any research when you see something like that.

[MartG]

I wonder if Capaldi now knows how Sylvester McCoy felt.....

[ali_kat]

It's not quite that bad, yet...

This was one bad episode

[MartG]

ali_kat said:

It's not quite that bad, yet...

This was one bad episode

There have been several very poor episodes in the last couple of years

[stephen300o]

There have been many many bad episodes throughout its history, it's just fking doctor who.

[anonymous-user]

stephen300o said:

There have been many many bad episodes throughout its history, it's just fking doctor who.

The Twin Dilemma with Colin Baker is probably the greatest story ever told.
In fact I recommend you go buy it now

[Flip Martian]

ali_kat said:

It's not quite that bad, yet...

This was one bad episode

This current series, for me at least, has the highest number of bad stories so far. I love Capaldi but hating the storylines this time. I've enjoyed a couple but that's all.

[Sparky137]

^^^^^^^^ What he said ^^^^^^^^^

[Allanv]

Found this on a US tech site I frequent.

The comments are as I and some others feel about that episode

http://www.denofgeek.com/tv/doctor-who/37823/docto...

[marcosgt]

JungleJim said:

How come the lab-grown super soldier was some podgy bloke - wouldn't he have been like a human action man if he'd been deliberately engineered to be a fighting machine?

You'd think so, although I think the idea was more 'cannon-fodder'.

I didn't hate it the way most of you seemed to, but having watched it a second time (my wife slept through it the first time), it did seem a lot weaker...

M.

[marshalla]

Sparky137 said:

Quite possibly the worst Dr Who episode I have ever seen - and I started watching in the 1960's!!

Complete and utter garbage. How does crap like this even get broadcast?

Be fair. It didn't have Bertie Bassett, Ken Dodd, Nicholas Parsons or Bonnie Langford in it - so it can't have been the *worst* (unless you stopped watching in around 1984).

[Bullett]

Well, just caught up.

This series has been a bit hit and miss. Enjoyed Missy in the first two but the rest was turgid despite it having Daleks. I liked the Underwater and Viking ones and the shape changers was ok except for the world's most incompetent special forces.

But my god the last one. I fell asleep (twice) and then when I did re-watch the end I'm still not really sure what happened.

And sleep monsters made from eye bogies, really?

[Beefmeister]

marshalla said:

Be fair. It didn't have Bertie Bassett, Ken Dodd, Nicholas Parsons or Bonnie Langford in it - so it can't have been the *worst* (unless you stopped watching in around 1984).

Oh Jesus, I'd forgotten about that!!

[p1doc]

that was bizarre but liked the merlin aspects of that series-very dark for it's time
and sophie aldred......
martin

[zarjaz1991]

FourWheelDrift said:

I agree, known quantities, known physics, known history, known geography shouldn't be changed. They can have aliens, alien tech, time travel and everything else because it's not known to exist. Anything can be added no matter how mad it is as long as it doesn't change what is currently fact.

It's like the Viking episode being solved using electric eels. Electric eels are native to South America only, the Vikings wouldn't have known anything about them let alone farm them in barrels. So coming up with a solution using electric eels was a massive cop out similar to the many sonic screwdriver get out clauses. Oh and the Vikings had horns on their helmets, you know it's written by someone who hasn't done any research when you see something like that.

Disagree about the helmets, indeed the writer Jamie Mathieson expressly stated that he thought long and hard about it, and in the end came to the same conclusion as me...Vikings in Doctor Who just SHOULD have horns on their helmets....it wouldn't be right not to. Historical accuracy doesn't matter, it's not a documentary.

By the same token, the cartoon character "Hagar The Horrible" shouldn't have horns either....nor should his wife and family.

[zarjaz1991]

As regards this particular episode (Sleep No More)...well, it diodn't really work for me, but I like the fact they do try things that are "new", at least new to the show anyhow.

I've enjoyed most of this series though, even the Viking one which many people don't seem to like.

[Beefmeister]

Did anyone see Capaldi on Graham Norton last night? He basically spoilered tonight's episode MASSIVELY.

Stupid Scottish c**t.

[FourWheelDrift]

zarjaz1991 said:

Disagree about the helmets, indeed the writer Jamie Mathieson expressly stated that he thought long and hard about it, and in the end came to the same conclusion as me...Vikings in Doctor Who just SHOULD have horns on their helmets....it wouldn't be right not to. Historical accuracy doesn't matter, it's not a documentary.

By the same token, the cartoon character "Hagar The Horrible" shouldn't have horns either....nor should his wife and family.

No Viking helmet has ever been found with horns. It's part of the Victorian fantasy.