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Tuna said:
I've enjoyed the last couple of episodes. Capaldi has been great, there have been some wonderfully cinematic moments (unarmed man in a face off with a spaceship!) and some good emotional turning points. On top of that, a good cast and some sharp dialog with nods back to all sorts of Who history. For once they turned the usual 'assistant moves on' story on it's head and tied up a few more loose ends than usual. It wasn't perfect (led ropes and spray webs in the crypt) and a pretty thin plot, but given it had to fit in a time slot, I'll forgive it that.
The split episode format this season seems a success to me - stories have had usefully more space to breathe and the chance to fit in a decent cliff hanger.
On the other hand, the writing has been uneven and has bounced inconsistently between showing and telling (and occasionally just hoping you'd figure it out). For a leading programme by the BBC, it really wouldn't hurt them to spend a few pounds on a 'scientific advisor' just to keep the explanations consistent (or even a bit deeper) and a few more pounds on a couple of script consultants to knock the rough edges off some of the ideas. Letting a single author loose on an episode has been occasionally brilliant, but Mark Gatiss' episode showed that even well respected and experienced writers can miss the mark badly.
Hoping Greg Davies isn't too silly at Christmas, and looking forward to the next season already.
I agree with you about Capaldi.The split episode format this season seems a success to me - stories have had usefully more space to breathe and the chance to fit in a decent cliff hanger.
On the other hand, the writing has been uneven and has bounced inconsistently between showing and telling (and occasionally just hoping you'd figure it out). For a leading programme by the BBC, it really wouldn't hurt them to spend a few pounds on a 'scientific advisor' just to keep the explanations consistent (or even a bit deeper) and a few more pounds on a couple of script consultants to knock the rough edges off some of the ideas. Letting a single author loose on an episode has been occasionally brilliant, but Mark Gatiss' episode showed that even well respected and experienced writers can miss the mark badly.
Hoping Greg Davies isn't too silly at Christmas, and looking forward to the next season already.
However, I suspect a "scientific advisor" on a show about an alien who travels through space and time in a box that is bigger on the inside may have a nervous breakdown after the first read through
Might be better if they allow 2 years between series to build up and polish decent stories. There's only so much drama that can be diffused by an eccentric illogical speech...
Anything to do with Gallifrey seems to be rendered into a massive disappointment on screen. Hope they leave that alone in future.
I would quite like to see some of the now ancient classic stories retold with modern visuals and Capaldi. Bugger the canon, it's imploding up into its own arse as it is anyhow.
Anything to do with Gallifrey seems to be rendered into a massive disappointment on screen. Hope they leave that alone in future.
I would quite like to see some of the now ancient classic stories retold with modern visuals and Capaldi. Bugger the canon, it's imploding up into its own arse as it is anyhow.
Jader1973 said:
I agree with you about Capaldi.
However, I suspect a "scientific advisor" on a show about an alien who travels through space and time in a box that is bigger on the inside may have a nervous breakdown after the first read through
They had one on Star Trek. Presumably an open minded one. However, I suspect a "scientific advisor" on a show about an alien who travels through space and time in a box that is bigger on the inside may have a nervous breakdown after the first read through
Flip Martian said:
Jader1973 said:
I agree with you about Capaldi.
However, I suspect a "scientific advisor" on a show about an alien who travels through space and time in a box that is bigger on the inside may have a nervous breakdown after the first read through
They had one on Star Trek. Presumably an open minded one. However, I suspect a "scientific advisor" on a show about an alien who travels through space and time in a box that is bigger on the inside may have a nervous breakdown after the first read through
"So how do those Heisenberg Compensators work, then?"
"Very well, thank you..."
In Star Trek, their advisers have built up basic principles of how stuff should work, so Heisenberg Compensators may be technobabble, but they follow rules that are used consistently. It stops random 'get out of jail free' story lines and weak bits where you're just wondering how they can do X when last week they couldn't do Y.
Tuna said:
In Star Trek, their advisers have built up basic principles of how stuff should work, so Heisenberg Compensators may be technobabble, but they follow rules that are used consistently. It stops random 'get out of jail free' story lines and weak bits where you're just wondering how they can do X when last week they couldn't do Y.
Exactly that - they had a bible to work to, so things might all be based on nonsense, but it was at least consistent nonsense, week after week. Scripts were often rejected and/or rewritten if writers ignored things in the bible. Dr Who would be more consistent and more intelligently written if they had gone for the same approach, rather than just making up any old thing, regardless of how it conflicted with previous stuff.Bit of a sideswipe,
But to get away from all the Doctor angst and complicated plots I started looking at the Christmas Specials and what an absolute joy the 2008 "The Next Doctor" one is.
Its a romp from the start with good humour, pathos and above all the early scenes of Tennants Doctor looking round the Victorian square with a sense of pure joy is simply super.
But to get away from all the Doctor angst and complicated plots I started looking at the Christmas Specials and what an absolute joy the 2008 "The Next Doctor" one is.
Its a romp from the start with good humour, pathos and above all the early scenes of Tennants Doctor looking round the Victorian square with a sense of pure joy is simply super.
techiedave said:
After the Next Doctor it was on to The End Of Time Part One
Man that Timothy Dalton could give spit the dog a run for his money in the spittle stakes
I'd had enough of Tennant by then, and was more than ready for him to go. However that was a good story, with The Master's insanity caused by the 'Time Lord Homing Signal'. And Dalton was outstanding. A proper actor, chewing the scenery for all it's worth. Man that Timothy Dalton could give spit the dog a run for his money in the spittle stakes
SpudLink said:
I'd had enough of Tennant by then, and was more than ready for him to go. However that was a good story, with The Master's insanity caused by the 'Time Lord Homing Signal'. And Dalton was outstanding. A proper actor, chewing the scenery for all it's worth.
have you seen dalton in hot fuzz-classic over acting lolmartin
p1doc said:
SpudLink said:
I'd had enough of Tennant by then, and was more than ready for him to go. However that was a good story, with The Master's insanity caused by the 'Time Lord Homing Signal'. And Dalton was outstanding. A proper actor, chewing the scenery for all it's worth.
have you seen dalton in hot fuzz-classic over acting lolmartin
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-who/news/a7775...
Digital spy reporting two new writers for next series
Digital spy reporting two new writers for next series
Sparky137 said:
Me too which surprised me greatly as usually I find Steven Moffat written episodes uninteligable garbage. The only complain I have about it was that the background music totally drowned the dielog throughout some of it.
Yes, that made it more than a little annoying to watch for me. 
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