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Watched this for the first time last night.
I actually felt sorry for the pissed up window cleaner, he worked hard and earned a wage whilst all those around him were sitting on their arses smoking fags. Also where was the support for him? He had his demons but to me the only help seemed to be for those Mums with kids.
I actually felt sorry for the pissed up window cleaner, he worked hard and earned a wage whilst all those around him were sitting on their arses smoking fags. Also where was the support for him? He had his demons but to me the only help seemed to be for those Mums with kids.
pboyd said:
Targarama said:
Megaflow said:
Two things about that statement were very interesting and worrying in equal measure. Firstly he said not like those working class families. So does that mean he classes himself as lower/under class?
Secondly, I hoped he had made a mistake when he said 2 grand a week, sadly I don't think it was and he really did mean it. This was kind of reinforced, when he said he used to earn £1400 a week in the steel mill by working every hour he could, and he would need to earn £500-600 a week!
Assume he is taking take home pay, that means he want somebody to pay him ~£34k-42k. These people really are clueless, they don't understand that the vast majority of the country live on less than that, unless your on benefits it seems, and the upper end of that band would put you in to the top ten percent of the whole country. Clown.
I suspect he mis-spoke and really means what we think of as 'middle class'.Secondly, I hoped he had made a mistake when he said 2 grand a week, sadly I don't think it was and he really did mean it. This was kind of reinforced, when he said he used to earn £1400 a week in the steel mill by working every hour he could, and he would need to earn £500-600 a week!
Assume he is taking take home pay, that means he want somebody to pay him ~£34k-42k. These people really are clueless, they don't understand that the vast majority of the country live on less than that, unless your on benefits it seems, and the upper end of that band would put you in to the top ten percent of the whole country. Clown.
We need a reality show where people like the Mum & Dad from this show live with a 'middle class' family who work hard, keep the house clean, don't use the F word all the time.
zetec said:
Watched this for the first time last night.
I actually felt sorry for the pissed up window cleaner, he worked hard and earned a wage whilst all those around him were sitting on their arses smoking fags. Also where was the support for him? He had his demons but to me the only help seemed to be for those Mums with kids.
From a social perspective, white heterosexual men are at the absolute bottom of the heap, due to a notion that they have formed the country's establishment against which everyone else toils.I actually felt sorry for the pissed up window cleaner, he worked hard and earned a wage whilst all those around him were sitting on their arses smoking fags. Also where was the support for him? He had his demons but to me the only help seemed to be for those Mums with kids.
Unfortunately, those in charge of such absurd notions seem to have ignored the fact that it's white heterosexual wealthy upper-class men who are specifically the establishment against which they rail.
The window cleaner's attitude was admirable. If they could get him off drink and drugs he'd be a perfectly responsible dad. His problem was addiction, and if he was rich he'd be discreetly booking himself into the Priory and would be out and contributing to society again in a matter of months.
He is what you end up with when social services treat all men as 'the establishment'.
It has probably been said earlier but i only watched the show last night..
when he started moaning about the tv cost, I nearly went ballistic. Regardless of how hes being fleeced by Brighthouse, we are still the ones f
king paying for it.
not a great advert for Brighthouse though as I doubt half their clients even realise what they'll eventually end up paying, although that's if they don't default... Saying that, will many of these people watch the show as it might be a bit embarrassing/close to home.
when he started moaning about the tv cost, I nearly went ballistic. Regardless of how hes being fleeced by Brighthouse, we are still the ones f
king paying for it. not a great advert for Brighthouse though as I doubt half their clients even realise what they'll eventually end up paying, although that's if they don't default... Saying that, will many of these people watch the show as it might be a bit embarrassing/close to home.
chrisw666 said:
You say that but the total payable is on the sticker for every item they sell.
considering these people seem to live their lives week-to-week, i'd be willing to wager they just look at how much money comes out of their budget for that, not how long they are paying for...BrabusMog said:
considering these people seem to live their lives week-to-week, i'd be willing to wager they just look at how much money comes out of their budget for that, not how long they are paying for...
Yep, but while they get "paid" every week, with no end in sight, it doesn't matter to them. This Brighthouse stuff is my point about the vicious circle of poverty.
Notwithstanding the guy under discussion is useless whisky soaked waster, assuming there are hordes of 'deserving poor' out there, if you're skint you can't buy a telly for cash because you don't have it, Currys, John Lewis & PC World won't touch you so unless you're going to pinch one, your options are Brighthouse and the similar buy weekly at huge interest rates stores where you'll pay getting on for two or three times as much for a given item as those of us in work & earning.
I'm not giving it the bleeding heart over a fat bloke with seven kids & his 3d super 1000" flat screen (29.9% APR @ Brighthouse), more illustrating that when it comes to what we would regard as essentials such as fridges, washing machines & even Christmas for the kids, it can be a cycle of borrowing that ensures you never get out of the hole.
Notwithstanding the guy under discussion is useless whisky soaked waster, assuming there are hordes of 'deserving poor' out there, if you're skint you can't buy a telly for cash because you don't have it, Currys, John Lewis & PC World won't touch you so unless you're going to pinch one, your options are Brighthouse and the similar buy weekly at huge interest rates stores where you'll pay getting on for two or three times as much for a given item as those of us in work & earning.
I'm not giving it the bleeding heart over a fat bloke with seven kids & his 3d super 1000" flat screen (29.9% APR @ Brighthouse), more illustrating that when it comes to what we would regard as essentials such as fridges, washing machines & even Christmas for the kids, it can be a cycle of borrowing that ensures you never get out of the hole.
Targarama said:
Nah, they're paying for it according to blokey.
...or are we...
Well according to the guy he is taking in at least £600/week of benefits which is £2,400/month. That's equivalent of a salary of circa £38,000 which is very good for a single income earner especially if he sits around doing nowt. I do respect his son though for at least have the effort to try and get a job....or are we...
crazy about cars said:
Well according to the guy he is taking in at least £600/week of benefits which is £2,400/month. That's equivalent of a salary of circa £38,000 which is very good for a single income earner especially if he sits around doing nowt. I do respect his son though for at least have the effort to try and get a job.
That was his little brother. To be fair to the big guy, in Ep 1 he said how he'd been employed for 23 years, before losing his job on the steel. They seem like a family with a bot of ethic behind them, if a little too willing to to the wrong thing (handling stolen etc). Justin Cyder said:
This Brighthouse stuff is my point about the vicious circle of poverty.
Notwithstanding the guy under discussion is useless whisky soaked waster, assuming there are hordes of 'deserving poor' out there, if you're skint you can't buy a telly for cash because you don't have it, Currys, John Lewis & PC World won't touch you so unless you're going to pinch one, your options are Brighthouse and the similar buy weekly at huge interest rates stores where you'll pay getting on for two or three times as much for a given item as those of us in work & earning.
I'm not giving it the bleeding heart over a fat bloke with seven kids & his 3d super 1000" flat screen (29.9% APR @ Brighthouse), more illustrating that when it comes to what we would regard as essentials such as fridges, washing machines & even Christmas for the kids, it can be a cycle of borrowing that ensures you never get out of the hole.
I partly agree, however.Notwithstanding the guy under discussion is useless whisky soaked waster, assuming there are hordes of 'deserving poor' out there, if you're skint you can't buy a telly for cash because you don't have it, Currys, John Lewis & PC World won't touch you so unless you're going to pinch one, your options are Brighthouse and the similar buy weekly at huge interest rates stores where you'll pay getting on for two or three times as much for a given item as those of us in work & earning.
I'm not giving it the bleeding heart over a fat bloke with seven kids & his 3d super 1000" flat screen (29.9% APR @ Brighthouse), more illustrating that when it comes to what we would regard as essentials such as fridges, washing machines & even Christmas for the kids, it can be a cycle of borrowing that ensures you never get out of the hole.
You can buy a 40" TV from Tesco for £262
http://www.tesco.com/direct/technika-40-e47-40-ful...
He would maybe need to save for a week or 3 but then it would be done
But its not the all singing all dancing 3D TV they feel they are entitled to is it, so they go to Brighthouse.
My TV cost me £600 when I bought it a few years ago, at the time I couldn't just pay out £600 in one month so I saved £300 one month and then the next month I got my TV, its not a difficult concept really.
Laurel Green said:
Twincam16 said:
And the general consensus/mixture of opinions was?
I'd have to say that most of the respondents seemed to be Pistonheaders. One question that did come up was 'did the production company pay the family and was this used to pay for the TV'.
Well, coming from Brighthouse would expect the answer to be 'no' as aren't they only on the never-never? Mind, I wouldn't put it past the production company to have paid BH the full amount, asking the family not to mention such in the furtherance of irk and ire and, a 'nice' ending to the series.
anonymous said:
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Indeed, there seems to be a serious misuse of the word poverty in this country. BrightHouse credit or not a giant telly is NOT an essential, if you really feel you need any kind of telly over paying utilities or for food then the local charity shops will have old CRTs for £100 or less.OpulentBob said:
They seem like a family with a bot of ethic behind them, if a little too willing to to the wrong thing (handling stolen etc).
Yes, until the point in episode 2 where Dean said that he'd worked for years, and should be allowed to go "on the social", and at no point did he or his wife mention any attempt that they had made to get work since him losing his job. His little brother was applying for jobs, but his step son didn't even bother to go to the interview the army offered him.I found the intro to the program particularly despicable, where the intro line was something to the effect of "Good people trying to do the best with what they've got"; really? It looked like a load of wasters standing around, drinking and taking the piss out of working people to me.
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