The Call Centre BBC3

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trooperiziz

9,456 posts

253 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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northwest monkey said:
I ran a 400 seat call centre some years ago doing inbound/outbound & it is very much like that.

The average employee age will be early 20s & about a 50/50 mix of male-female is what you aim for on the floor. They can be soul destroying places to work, you've got 1500 calls to make that week if you're on outbound, or there can be 500 inbound calls waiting to be answered from 8am to 8pm every day. Teams will be about 15 members with a TL who reports to me every day.

To deal with the tedium and to motivate staff, we had a team of 5 people who organised stuff to do. Nights out, competitions, spot promotions etc. One competition ran for 6 months & included holidays & cars as prizes. We had a budget of around £1m - £1.5m per year for this sort of stuff. Staff retention levels were very high & we paid well.

Nothing wrong with call centres if you ask me. We generated over £2m per day in revenue & employed over 400 staff & paid far more than a lot (probably 75%) could have earned anywhere else.

Good fun place to work if you're tough enough to do it & the nights out were awesome!

The chap on the TV wasn't running a boiler room ripping people off of their life savings - he was trying to sell something some people will actually want to buy. If cold calling didn't work, it wouldn't exist.
£700m a year turnover, from a 400 person call centre? Really?


escargot

17,110 posts

218 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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gpo746 said:
the biggest bad thing about these gaffs is the way they use any info they get on you to pass round between there own companies
That makes perfect business sense. Why would you buy the same data six times?

gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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escargot said:
That makes perfect business sense. Why would you buy the same data six times?
Its the way these gaffs lie about how they get the data I'm not saying this place is like that but some are, what I mean is if you don't give them anything they wont have nothing to go on some of them do that dodgy pretend survey stuff to then use and they can get round regulations by saying its a survey we just don't do withhelds or unknown numbers and never give a phone number on anything our hospital don't withhold its number our doctors don't withhold there numbers.
If you do withhold your number you get a message cuts in saying we don't accept them and put 1470 before your dialling
We don't get cold callers so I think we got it right I have noticed a lot more of the sellers on the streets in last few months there's big push on changing your gas/ electric stuff and the other biggie is insulation cant be easy jobs for these dudes but that's not something I can be helping these guys out with

anonymous-user

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55 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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trooperiziz said:
£700m a year turnover, from a 400 person call centre? Really?
+ 26 team leaders reporting to boss, that makes no sense at all.



condor

8,837 posts

249 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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I enjoyed the programme and thought Nev was a great boss. Can fully understand why his place is one of the top to work in.

Countdown

40,024 posts

197 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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northwest monkey said:
you've got 1500 calls to make that week if you're on outbound, or there can be 500 inbound calls waiting to be answered from 8am to 8pm every day.
So, assuming a 10 hour day, you're making one call every 2 minutes? For 10 hours non-stop?

That seems incredibly hard.

escargot

17,110 posts

218 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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Countdown said:
So, assuming a 10 hour day, you're making one call every 2 minutes? For 10 hours non-stop?

That seems incredibly hard.
and still able to generate £5k revenue every single day.

viggyp

1,917 posts

136 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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Countdown said:
northwest monkey said:
you've got 1500 calls to make that week if you're on outbound, or there can be 500 inbound calls waiting to be answered from 8am to 8pm every day.
So, assuming a 10 hour day, you're making one call every 2 minutes? For 10 hours non-stop?

That seems incredibly hard.
They'd have a shift pattern. I'm struggling with constant calls for 7 hours but then two 30 min breaks and an hour lunch help........just.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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escargot said:
400 people each generating 5 grand a day. Bloody hell. What were you selling?
It wasn't PPI or anything like that.

Each customer (residential) was worth approximately £400 to £700 annually to the company so £5k daily target isn't a lot - basically 10 new customers signed up. Business customers worth a lot more but had more competition. The time I was there was a period of massive growth & the market is now much more mature.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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trooperiziz said:
£700m a year turnover, from a 400 person call centre? Really?
Yep really. The company was effectively a sort of start up & was just massive growth. The company now has a turnover of approximately £4bn but has gone through several changes since then.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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The Spruce goose said:
+ 26 team leaders reporting to boss, that makes no sense at all.
Why?

Not a stroppy answer - I'm genuinely interested. Your numbers are about right give or take. Call centre was open 8am - 8pm Monday to Friday (3 shifts), 8am - 6pm Saturday (2 shifts) and 10am - 4pm Sunday (1 shift). There was no cold calling weekends.

It was split like this:

15 Team Members (approx) - 1 Dep TL, 1 TL per team - report to CCM - report to CCD.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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escargot said:
Countdown said:
So, assuming a 10 hour day, you're making one call every 2 minutes? For 10 hours non-stop?

That seems incredibly hard.
and still able to generate £5k revenue every single day.
They aren't known as sweatshops for nothing!

Your 300 calls wont be speaking to 300 people. Phone numbers / names are loaded into a predictive dialer which calls numbers all day long & puts them through to people when they get answered. Most people will say "no" very quickly, so you end the call & the dialer gives you the next call. You can easily speak to 40 people per hour - probably more. The times you get called at home & there's nobody on the line - that's the dialer not predicting very well, i.e there is nobody free to take your call.

As in my other post, £5k revenue is 10 customers so not a particularly high conversion rate. This wasn't selling something for a one off fee. Put it into perspective, my gas/electric bill at home is approximately £2500 per year so that's 2 customers like me per day that need to say "yes".

gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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utilities your boss didn't have an aston martin and want to be like Elton john did he ?
not being sarcy if know what i'm on about it will make sense if not it wont mate

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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gpo746 said:
utilities your boss didn't have an aston martin and want to be like Elton john did he ?
not being sarcy if know what i'm on about it will make sense if not it wont mate
My boss at this company didn't, no - sorry mate. Bizarrely enough, my boss at the place I worked at next did!

p.s I'm sorry for the multiple posts - I've got no idea how to do "multi quotes"!

gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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northwest monkey said:
My boss at this company didn't, no - sorry mate. Bizarrely enough, my boss at the place I worked at next did!

p.s I'm sorry for the multiple posts - I've got no idea how to do "multi quotes"!
no worries I only know this other guy thru a footie connection but I know he was into that telesales malarkey so thought it may of been your old boss take care fella

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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marcosgt said:
Entrepreneur? He's a fking cold calling tt.

We need a cottage industry of private hit men to rid us of tossers like him!

M
My thoughts too. He doesn't create or build anything, he just annoys people. He refers to himself as Napoleon and throws things at his staff.

A bigger bell end I've yet to see on TV.

Countdown

40,024 posts

197 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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B17NNS said:
marcosgt said:
Entrepreneur? He's a fking cold calling tt.

We need a cottage industry of private hit men to rid us of tossers like him!

M
My thoughts too. He doesn't create or build anything, he just annoys people. He refers to himself as Napoleon and throws things at his staff.

A bigger bell end I've yet to see on TV.
To be fair I don't think most people in the UK build/create stuff - Sales (which is what I suppose he does) is a big part of the Economy. He employs lots of people, generates profits, pays taxes so good on him, I say smile

With regards to the "Napoleon" and throwing stuff at people, that's Reality TV for you. 99% of the time I bet he's no different to any Sales Director smile

redtwin

7,518 posts

183 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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condor said:
Nev was a great boss.
Really?, he is a successful businessman, but I wouldn't want him as my boss. Odd-ball behaviour aside, he was actively encouraging a workplace romance. What happens when that slinger bloke decides he wants a bit of tea girl with his cake?. Cake girl crumbles, can't cope with seeing him at work, and now there is an even bigger mess that will probably affect other co-workers.

There is a reason for the saying "Don't st where you eat".


The Nur

9,168 posts

186 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Starting now.

gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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missus just said after seeing sean theres deffo not only one gay in the valley is there