How to get a council house.
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Myc said:
It was the point at which he said that Council Housing is meant to be a safety net, it was that sense of entitlement I found frustrating.
Nothing wrong with taking a risk, but he should have kept enough of his cash back as a safety net, his daughters 16 so he knew he had a family to support when he took the risk.
He has a job now so why not look to house his family in a cheaper area and commute to work.
I understand what you're saying completely, but I guess the welfare state IS a safety net in a way. If you're a decent, hard working person, then you don't ever want to fall into it. But if you do for whatever reason, then you'll sure be glad it's there. At least he is still working and trying and that's the difference between him and some of the others for me. He seems pretty unhappy.Nothing wrong with taking a risk, but he should have kept enough of his cash back as a safety net, his daughters 16 so he knew he had a family to support when he took the risk.
He has a job now so why not look to house his family in a cheaper area and commute to work.
Now this f
ker here who has no car but will turn down a house if it doesn't have a parking space..... Words can't accurately describe the grasping .
Myc said:
Just knocked back a brand new half a million flat on a private development because she can't have a parking space. She'll regret that decision.
I loved it when the lady said that it doesn't matter to her if they accept. It really did seem like the nutter thought she held the bargaining power and thought that they were going to bend to her will!jules_s said:
Myc said:
Just knocked back a brand new half a million flat on a private development because she can't have a parking space. She'll regret that decision.
And she said earlier she didn't actually have a car?The cynic might suggest.
So, it's reinforcing my belief that I'm incredibly lucky, but...
The Asian family who have been offered, did they say, 9 properties in 12 years, all of which they turned down...and then moan that they need more room. They should be struck off the list for wasting time.
The ex-investment banker - I'm sorry to hear about your st luck, but if you can't afford to live in London, earn fk all but are happy to work (which he seems), then move to the middle of the countryside, work in the local store etc.
fks sake - this program is boiling my piss.
The Asian family who have been offered, did they say, 9 properties in 12 years, all of which they turned down...and then moan that they need more room. They should be struck off the list for wasting time.
The ex-investment banker - I'm sorry to hear about your s
t luck, but if you can't afford to live in London, earn fk all but are happy to work (which he seems), then move to the middle of the countryside, work in the local store etc.f
ks sake - this program is boiling my piss.Thousands of native born folk way down the list, yet 'other' groups straight to top of list and yet reject perfectly good brand new homes at a third of the market value rent (which the state pays in housing benefit anyway). This country and it's systems are a joke. Biggest factor in determining social housing should be number of years resident in this country. Good to see Tower Hamlets now have a policy of reject x3 equals bottom of list...that Asian woman was totally taking the p155.
I work in property development in London, very interesting to see how it actually looks on the coal face.
Everything you build has to have a social element, normally 35-40% given to a housing association. Some of that will be allocated to socially capped rents which is what was on the TV. Some as intermediate rents hwich is just discounted market rents. And some for shared ownership. Quite often this is built at loss for the developer. Or give a giant hand out to the local authority in lieu of on-site affordable.
It makes it very difficult to make sites viable with land values so high. And thanks to the bankers antics pre-2006, development finance is still difficult to get and very costly only compounding the issue.
There are literally hundreds of sites around greater London (and the south East) which have planning consent which cannot be implemented because of the affordable allocations / financial contributions making them un-viable and more importantly un-fundable. They just sit there vacant.
But the government won't build any council flats, its down to private developers to give it away as sort of social housing tax.
In a wider context, this problem will only get worse in Greater London, the GLA suggest we need to be building 30K dwellings a year and needed to be doing so for many years to meet the growing population. The actual amount of units built is more like 10k. The population of London will grow by an estimated 1m by 2017.
You can see the problem, high demand and limited supply can only do one thing to affordability.
Everything you build has to have a social element, normally 35-40% given to a housing association. Some of that will be allocated to socially capped rents which is what was on the TV. Some as intermediate rents hwich is just discounted market rents. And some for shared ownership. Quite often this is built at loss for the developer. Or give a giant hand out to the local authority in lieu of on-site affordable.
It makes it very difficult to make sites viable with land values so high. And thanks to the bankers antics pre-2006, development finance is still difficult to get and very costly only compounding the issue.
There are literally hundreds of sites around greater London (and the south East) which have planning consent which cannot be implemented because of the affordable allocations / financial contributions making them un-viable and more importantly un-fundable. They just sit there vacant.
But the government won't build any council flats, its down to private developers to give it away as sort of social housing tax.
In a wider context, this problem will only get worse in Greater London, the GLA suggest we need to be building 30K dwellings a year and needed to be doing so for many years to meet the growing population. The actual amount of units built is more like 10k. The population of London will grow by an estimated 1m by 2017.
You can see the problem, high demand and limited supply can only do one thing to affordability.
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