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Halb said:
Smallville was my thought as well.
Batman's villains as kids for kids...ffs.
I dont get that impression at all, from the trailer i see it more as batman without the superhero with all his gadgets and money, just one man trying to make a difference, whilst also taking the time to build up more of a back story to the characters in the nolan trilogy.Batman's villains as kids for kids...ffs.
I enjoyed it, some clever nods to the past, and nuggets for the nerdiest fans, and a pleasant hour's viewing for the rest of us.
Surprisingly, there are more shades of grey than I'd expected, it's more nuanced than the likes of Smallville or Caprica.
There's a lot they can do without any super-stuff, and it would be all the better for it.
Harlequin dancers and a comedian in the club? Zsasz in the police station? Ed Nygma in the forensics lab?
Falcone appears to be more than the "Italian Mob Boss #1" stereotype.
And Sean Pertwee as the arse kicking Alfred made my evening.
Surprisingly, there are more shades of grey than I'd expected, it's more nuanced than the likes of Smallville or Caprica.
There's a lot they can do without any super-stuff, and it would be all the better for it.
Harlequin dancers and a comedian in the club? Zsasz in the police station? Ed Nygma in the forensics lab?
Falcone appears to be more than the "Italian Mob Boss #1" stereotype.
And Sean Pertwee as the arse kicking Alfred made my evening.
Just watched the pilot over lunch. It was.... alright.
It's very Smallville/Arrow/Agents of Shield in tone and feel. It remains to be seen if it turns out to be a monster of the week kind of show, but I very much suspect it will be. I was hoping for something closer to "True Detective" but set in Gotham, as I thought it was supposed to be this gritty realist take on the origin of the Batman Story. It certainly isn't that, it's just seems to be another superhero based, seen it all before, show. Albeit without the actual superhero.
Having said that, it was perfectly watchable, and will probably be up there with the best of these type of shows.
It does have a few issues:
When is it set, exactly? I know this is a made up world, but it's set 30 years in the past, and people seem to drive old cars, yet take photos with digital cameras and talk on their mobiles :shrug:
It's also incredibly fortuitous that Gordon's first case with his partner is the Wayne murders, and in the first few days of that case he either meets directly or is part of interaction with... A young catwoman, a young riddler, a young penguin, a young poison ivy and possibly even a young joker. What are the chances, eh? Give it a rest please, we know it is set in the batman universe, you don't need to shove it down our throats every second.
It's very Smallville/Arrow/Agents of Shield in tone and feel. It remains to be seen if it turns out to be a monster of the week kind of show, but I very much suspect it will be. I was hoping for something closer to "True Detective" but set in Gotham, as I thought it was supposed to be this gritty realist take on the origin of the Batman Story. It certainly isn't that, it's just seems to be another superhero based, seen it all before, show. Albeit without the actual superhero.
Having said that, it was perfectly watchable, and will probably be up there with the best of these type of shows.
It does have a few issues:
When is it set, exactly? I know this is a made up world, but it's set 30 years in the past, and people seem to drive old cars, yet take photos with digital cameras and talk on their mobiles :shrug:
It's also incredibly fortuitous that Gordon's first case with his partner is the Wayne murders, and in the first few days of that case he either meets directly or is part of interaction with... A young catwoman, a young riddler, a young penguin, a young poison ivy and possibly even a young joker. What are the chances, eh? Give it a rest please, we know it is set in the batman universe, you don't need to shove it down our throats every second.
ali_kat said:
Whereas we thought it was an inspired idea, showing how they were all integrated in their original lives, how their lives changed them into who they become, their 'back story'.
Some characters are richer for having back story, some are richer for having absolutely none. Nolan recognised and understood that with Joker. I'm not gonna prejudge too much and be down on Gotham, I would like it to be more than Smallville/Arrow and the others. It's all in the delivery.edit.
trooperiziz said:
Just watched the pilot over lunch. It was.... alright.
It's very Smallville/Arrow/Agents of Shield in tone and feel. It remains to be seen if it turns out to be a monster of the week kind of show, but I very much suspect it will be. I was hoping for something closer to "True Detective" but set in Gotham, as I thought it was supposed to be this gritty realist take on the origin of the Batman Story. It certainly isn't that, it's just seems to be another superhero based, seen it all before, show. Albeit without the actual superhero.
Having said that, it was perfectly watchable, and will probably be up there with the best of these type of shows.
It does have a few issues:
When is it set, exactly? I know this is a made up world, but it's set 30 years in the past, and people seem to drive old cars, yet take photos with digital cameras and talk on their mobiles :shrug:
It's also incredibly fortuitous that Gordon's first case with his partner is the Wayne murders, and in the first few days of that case he either meets directly or is part of interaction with... A young catwoman, a young riddler, a young penguin, a young poison ivy and possibly even a young joker. What are the chances, eh? Give it a rest please, we know it is set in the batman universe, you don't need to shove it down our throats every second.
OK, now I've read your review.It's very Smallville/Arrow/Agents of Shield in tone and feel. It remains to be seen if it turns out to be a monster of the week kind of show, but I very much suspect it will be. I was hoping for something closer to "True Detective" but set in Gotham, as I thought it was supposed to be this gritty realist take on the origin of the Batman Story. It certainly isn't that, it's just seems to be another superhero based, seen it all before, show. Albeit without the actual superhero.
Having said that, it was perfectly watchable, and will probably be up there with the best of these type of shows.
It does have a few issues:
When is it set, exactly? I know this is a made up world, but it's set 30 years in the past, and people seem to drive old cars, yet take photos with digital cameras and talk on their mobiles :shrug:
It's also incredibly fortuitous that Gordon's first case with his partner is the Wayne murders, and in the first few days of that case he either meets directly or is part of interaction with... A young catwoman, a young riddler, a young penguin, a young poison ivy and possibly even a young joker. What are the chances, eh? Give it a rest please, we know it is set in the batman universe, you don't need to shove it down our throats every second.
Oh dear. It sounds exactly like I feared then.
The fact they have put 'young' Joker, Poison Ivy and the rest in makes it sound utter s
t.I'll still give it the benefit of the doubt and watch a few.
Edited by Halb on Friday 26th September 17:40
gwm said:
Woody said:
When's this due to start?
US premiere is 22nd September, no confirmation of UK TV time yet. http://www.channel5.com/shows/gotham
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