Discussion
im said:
Erm, really not seeing that. Zilla is very slendy, tail out to the rear (akin to a real dinosaur), almost Velociraptor style gait. The new Godzilla design is very much like the Godzillas of old, short, stubby snout, stumpy limbs, mass centralised around the hips and the base of the tail, walking more upright than Zilla.To the uninterested they may just look like two large dinosaur-esque monsters, but the long time fans of Godzilla (as a franchise, not the s
t 1988 film) will spot the difference immediately. From what I gather amongst the hardcore fans, the new design has been very well received after the frankly poor Zilla design.Mastodon2 said:
Erm, really not seeing that. Zilla is very slendy, tail out to the rear (akin to a real dinosaur), almost Velociraptor style gait. The new Godzilla design is very much like the Godzillas of old, short, stubby snout, stumpy limbs, mass centralised around the hips and the base of the tail, walking more upright than Zilla.
I think I summed up my position thuslyim said:
The point I'm making is, it's hardly a complete re-imagining of the creature from either the original or the 1998 version. It doesn't appear to have a new 'edge'.
...and apparently I'm not the only one thinking along these lines.You have to be a serious Kaiju geek to see gaping great differences between any of these versions.
Yes, upon 2nd inspection the fore legs are longer/shorter and I had mentioned the 'porky' nature of the latest version.
Anyway, we'll not know until its released but I bet I'll be back with quotes from various reviewers saying that the creature isn't much different from the last one.
Right then, this is done to death...so moving on...
B.J.W said:
marcosgt said:
When I was about 8 I saw "Son of Godzilla" (or something similar) at saturday morning pictures, so I think 'Godzukie' predates the cartoons somewhat.
M.
Godzukie (sp) was the nephew of Godzilla in the cartoons. I think that the link to 'son of Godzilla' is tenuous given the propensity for HB et al in that era to introduce 'sidekick' characters for comic relief. The nadir was arguably reached with thunder cats and 'Snarff'M.
M
I've been following this remake quite closely for the last year or so. I'm a big Godzilla fan and remember the originals quite fondly as something I would watch with my Dad.
I have very high hopes for this film, for a number of reasons.
1. The Director (Gareth Edwards) is a massive Godzilla fan and insisted that Godzilla must look similar to the original and it wasn't going to be some 'Hollywood' cash in.
2. It's being produced by Legendary Pictures, who are responsible for a lot of my favourite movies of the last 10 years. They aren't ones to push a film too far from it's source material, unlike some production companies.
3. They are using Godzilla as a methaphor, like the originals; as opposed to the American cash in, which was just about a giant stomping lizard.
4. This film has been made with a lot of involvement from Toho (The original film company). Apparently they ran a lot of the designs and ideas for the film past them before they decided on what to finalise on. Edwards desperately wants to produce a Godzilla film that Toho will acknowledge as a true Godzilla film. Toho are actively advertising the film in Japan, so they obviously have faith in it.
5. Bryan Cranston....
6. This statement:
Director Edwards confirmed that his Godzilla will be portrayed as an anti-hero rather than a villain or a hero. He also discussed the themes incorporated into the film, stating "Godzilla is definitely a representation of the wrath of nature. We've taken it very seriously and the theme is man versus nature and Godzilla is certainly the nature side of it. You can't win that fight. Nature's always going to win and that's what the subtext of our movie is about. He's the punishment we deserve".
Elizabeth Olsen has too confirmed that the film returns to the gritty roots of the original film and spoke about its themes as well, "There's a strong theme about the importance of family in it as well as the theme of trying to control nature and how that backfires in the end." Olsen has also stated in a different interview about the titular character that, "Godzilla is just so deserving of a good American remake, and I really hope we did it and I really feel like we did." Bryan Cranston has also stated that the new film will wipe out the memory of the 1998 version from fan's and audience's system.
So yeah, that's why I'm excited
I have very high hopes for this film, for a number of reasons.
1. The Director (Gareth Edwards) is a massive Godzilla fan and insisted that Godzilla must look similar to the original and it wasn't going to be some 'Hollywood' cash in.
2. It's being produced by Legendary Pictures, who are responsible for a lot of my favourite movies of the last 10 years. They aren't ones to push a film too far from it's source material, unlike some production companies.
3. They are using Godzilla as a methaphor, like the originals; as opposed to the American cash in, which was just about a giant stomping lizard.
4. This film has been made with a lot of involvement from Toho (The original film company). Apparently they ran a lot of the designs and ideas for the film past them before they decided on what to finalise on. Edwards desperately wants to produce a Godzilla film that Toho will acknowledge as a true Godzilla film. Toho are actively advertising the film in Japan, so they obviously have faith in it.
5. Bryan Cranston....
6. This statement:
Director Edwards confirmed that his Godzilla will be portrayed as an anti-hero rather than a villain or a hero. He also discussed the themes incorporated into the film, stating "Godzilla is definitely a representation of the wrath of nature. We've taken it very seriously and the theme is man versus nature and Godzilla is certainly the nature side of it. You can't win that fight. Nature's always going to win and that's what the subtext of our movie is about. He's the punishment we deserve".
Elizabeth Olsen has too confirmed that the film returns to the gritty roots of the original film and spoke about its themes as well, "There's a strong theme about the importance of family in it as well as the theme of trying to control nature and how that backfires in the end." Olsen has also stated in a different interview about the titular character that, "Godzilla is just so deserving of a good American remake, and I really hope we did it and I really feel like we did." Bryan Cranston has also stated that the new film will wipe out the memory of the 1998 version from fan's and audience's system.
So yeah, that's why I'm excited
The Beaver King said:
I've been following this remake quite closely for the last year or so. I'm a big Godzilla fan and remember the originals quite fondly as something I would watch with my Dad.
I have very high hopes for this film, for a number of reasons.
1. The Director (Gareth Edwards) is a massive Godzilla fan and insisted that Godzilla must look similar to the original and it wasn't going to be some 'Hollywood' cash in.
2. It's being produced by Legendary Pictures, who are responsible for a lot of my favourite movies of the last 10 years. They aren't ones to push a film too far from it's source material, unlike some production companies.
3. They are using Godzilla as a methaphor, like the originals; as opposed to the American cash in, which was just about a giant stomping lizard.
4. This film has been made with a lot of involvement from Toho (The original film company). Apparently they ran a lot of the designs and ideas for the film past them before they decided on what to finalise on. Edwards desperately wants to produce a Godzilla film that Toho will acknowledge as a true Godzilla film. Toho are actively advertising the film in Japan, so they obviously have faith in it.
5. Bryan Cranston....
6. This statement:
Director Edwards confirmed that his Godzilla will be portrayed as an anti-hero rather than a villain or a hero. He also discussed the themes incorporated into the film, stating "Godzilla is definitely a representation of the wrath of nature. We've taken it very seriously and the theme is man versus nature and Godzilla is certainly the nature side of it. You can't win that fight. Nature's always going to win and that's what the subtext of our movie is about. He's the punishment we deserve".
Elizabeth Olsen has too confirmed that the film returns to the gritty roots of the original film and spoke about its themes as well, "There's a strong theme about the importance of family in it as well as the theme of trying to control nature and how that backfires in the end." Olsen has also stated in a different interview about the titular character that, "Godzilla is just so deserving of a good American remake, and I really hope we did it and I really feel like we did." Bryan Cranston has also stated that the new film will wipe out the memory of the 1998 version from fan's and audience's system.
So yeah, that's why I'm excited
So does this mean Godzilla will be stomping on gas guzzling V8s and gently stepping over Toyota Prius' driven by Hollywood celebrities? I have very high hopes for this film, for a number of reasons.
1. The Director (Gareth Edwards) is a massive Godzilla fan and insisted that Godzilla must look similar to the original and it wasn't going to be some 'Hollywood' cash in.
2. It's being produced by Legendary Pictures, who are responsible for a lot of my favourite movies of the last 10 years. They aren't ones to push a film too far from it's source material, unlike some production companies.
3. They are using Godzilla as a methaphor, like the originals; as opposed to the American cash in, which was just about a giant stomping lizard.
4. This film has been made with a lot of involvement from Toho (The original film company). Apparently they ran a lot of the designs and ideas for the film past them before they decided on what to finalise on. Edwards desperately wants to produce a Godzilla film that Toho will acknowledge as a true Godzilla film. Toho are actively advertising the film in Japan, so they obviously have faith in it.
5. Bryan Cranston....
6. This statement:
Director Edwards confirmed that his Godzilla will be portrayed as an anti-hero rather than a villain or a hero. He also discussed the themes incorporated into the film, stating "Godzilla is definitely a representation of the wrath of nature. We've taken it very seriously and the theme is man versus nature and Godzilla is certainly the nature side of it. You can't win that fight. Nature's always going to win and that's what the subtext of our movie is about. He's the punishment we deserve".
Elizabeth Olsen has too confirmed that the film returns to the gritty roots of the original film and spoke about its themes as well, "There's a strong theme about the importance of family in it as well as the theme of trying to control nature and how that backfires in the end." Olsen has also stated in a different interview about the titular character that, "Godzilla is just so deserving of a good American remake, and I really hope we did it and I really feel like we did." Bryan Cranston has also stated that the new film will wipe out the memory of the 1998 version from fan's and audience's system.
So yeah, that's why I'm excited
Best part of the 98 version was Jean Reno's 'American' impression, this can't be worse, can it?
marcosgt said:
B.J.W said:
marcosgt said:
When I was about 8 I saw "Son of Godzilla" (or something similar) at saturday morning pictures, so I think 'Godzukie' predates the cartoons somewhat.
M.
Godzukie (sp) was the nephew of Godzilla in the cartoons. I think that the link to 'son of Godzilla' is tenuous given the propensity for HB et al in that era to introduce 'sidekick' characters for comic relief. The nadir was arguably reached with thunder cats and 'Snarff'M.
Nope, that little b
d arguably started it M
kapiteinlangzaam said:
ajprice said:
The more I see, the more I like.
This could actually be the film Pacific Rim should have been.This second trailer has got me even more excited than the first one 
Interesting to note it looks like they've tweaked Godzilla's backstory, so he is no longer the product of nuclear testing.
I wonder if this is because the idea of a lizard mutating into a 300ft monster is deemed too far fetched these days or the Yanks want to play down the original metaphor of the USA and its nuclear toys
There was talk of at least one other monster being in the film and I guess Godzilla needs somebody to fight.
Interesting to note it looks like they've tweaked Godzilla's backstory, so he is no longer the product of nuclear testing.
I wonder if this is because the idea of a lizard mutating into a 300ft monster is deemed too far fetched these days or the Yanks want to play down the original metaphor of the USA and its nuclear toys
ajprice said:
1:32 in the trailer, jet fighters falling out of the sky, and... Rodan?
Really good spot, I didn't even think about this.There was talk of at least one other monster being in the film and I guess Godzilla needs somebody to fight.
It wasn't my spot, the internet found it. There's a decent write up of the possibilities here:
http://io9.com/who-are-the-other-monsters-in-the-n...
http://io9.com/who-are-the-other-monsters-in-the-n...
Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff