Brooker Weekly Wipe
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Watched this last night alongside the 2013 wipe. I enjoyed them both quite a lot actually, although the amount of alcohol I'd consumed beforehand may have helped.
t about time. Stanhope was great.
I only laughed twice.
The shiny chin joke "he had"
"Giant camel toe"
Brooker has lost it. Ref the Immigration news coverage. He's smart enough to know WHY people are anti Immigration. But for him (and Stanhope) to ignore the publics concerns/potential realities and then say anyone who has loses their job to being undercut on their labour costs is thick, was too far IMO.
The shiny chin joke "he had"
"Giant camel toe"
Brooker has lost it. Ref the Immigration news coverage. He's smart enough to know WHY people are anti Immigration. But for him (and Stanhope) to ignore the publics concerns/potential realities and then say anyone who has loses their job to being undercut on their labour costs is thick, was too far IMO.
Rich_W said:
Brooker has lost it. Ref the Immigration news coverage. He's smart enough to know WHY people are anti Immigration. But for him (and Stanhope) to ignore the publics concerns/potential realities and then say anyone who has loses their job to being undercut on their labour costs is thick, was too far IMO.
Yeah that "joke" wasn't funny the first time Stanhope trotted it out on one of Charlie's shows a few years back. I'm generally a fan of his type of cynical humour when its done with intelligence but a lot of the time Stanhope misses the mark and just comes across as unpleasant and bitter, rather than the insightful misanthrope he wants to be.joema said:
I thought he was fairly spot on with those points. It may be rude, but he's right.
I thought it was such an overly simplistic way of looking at the subject he made himself look stupid.Edited by mdavids on Sunday 12th January 09:07
Edited by mdavids on Sunday 12th January 09:08
joema said:
I thought he was fairly spot on with those points. It may be rude, but he's right.
I don't worry about rude. I worry about facts. Rude is funny when it's based on accurate. When it's not it's ignorant.Lets use the "splodge splodge splodge" example from the show. Lets assume that's putting sauce on burgers in a fast food place
British example. Guy gets minimum wage and a contributory pension and above bare minimum standard for breaks.
Immigrant example. Guy gets minimum wage and doesn't want the pension (since he's taking the money he's earned and leaving the country in 10 years) and says he'll work 8-6 straight and work his lunchbreak every day for free. So he costs the company less. So he gets the job instead.
Not everyone in this country can be a brain surgeon. For those people. The right to a job is what's required. Should the immigrant labour be allowed to undercut the Brit by bending the rules? OR should the Brit worker also work 8-6 straight through and forgo his pension? Is that market competition? Is it right to denigrate those members of society?
No one wants to stop the handful of immigrant doctors or solicitors or skilled workers. But I will point out that in 3 out of the last 4 "new EU state" people I've worked with. Their idea of a 'job done right' is not the same as mine! Quicker Yes. But with far less attention to detail. So I don't even buy into the notion that the majority of them are filled with ability and want to work hard and make a better life for themselves. I'm also finding some of them get through the probationary period as model employees then start to work to rule. And start to talk about how they know their rights and then the anti Britain sentiment starts to emerge. The above 3/4 never really learnt English, just enough to get by. They never really socialized or integrated fully. Something The Guardian and BBC of this world never address.
The 1 out of 4 was brilliant, good laugh, got on with everyone, plans to live here forever and better his career and life with his Polish fiancée who was just as Anglicised. I wish them every success. But they was in a minority.
mdavids said:
Rich_W said:
Brooker has lost it. Ref the Immigration news coverage. He's smart enough to know WHY people are anti Immigration. But for him (and Stanhope) to ignore the publics concerns/potential realities and then say anyone who has loses their job to being undercut on their labour costs is thick, was too far IMO.
Yeah that "joke" wasn't funny the first time Stanhope trotted it out on one of Charlie's shows a few years back. I'm generally a fan of his type of cynical humour when its done with intelligence but a lot of the time Stanhope misses the mark and just comes across as unpleasant and bitter, rather than the insightful misanthrope he wants to be.joema said:
I thought he was fairly spot on with those points. It may be rude, but he's right.
I thought it was such an overly simplistic way of looking at the subject he made himself look stupid.Edited by mdavids on Sunday 12th January 09:07
Edited by mdavids on Sunday 12th January 09:08
still piss funny though.
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