The Apprentice 2014.......................

The Apprentice 2014.......................

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moanthebairns

17,932 posts

198 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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What I want to know is why EVERY "board meeting" when its down to 3 people do they start chucking blame at each other and then trying to deflect any blame from themselves. Honestly I wouldn't hire anyone like that. Its your fault not mines. Rather than, lets learn from this, lets not adopt a blame culture.

Surely to God at some point someone will come along and say, "you know what, I did do that wrong, I miss judged it and it cost us, I'll learn from that and not do it again". here's the positives.

KTF

9,802 posts

150 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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moanthebairns said:
Surely to God at some point someone will come along and say, "you know what, I did do that wrong, I miss judged it and it cost us, I'll learn from that and not do it again". here's the positives.
I suspect that they are worried that if they do that then they will be fired or they are just too busy panicking that they might miss out on this 'once in a lifetime' opportunity that the verbal diarrhoea comes bubbling up.

Countdown

39,784 posts

196 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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moanthebairns said:
What I want to know is why EVERY "board meeting" when its down to 3 people do they start chucking blame at each other and then trying to deflect any blame from themselves. Honestly I wouldn't hire anyone like that. Its your fault not mines. Rather than, lets learn from this, lets not adopt a blame culture.

Surely to God at some point someone will come along and say, "you know what, I did do that wrong, I miss judged it and it cost us, I'll learn from that and not do it again". here's the positives.
"Normal" behaviour makes cr@p TV. If that happened the TV production company would probably just use lots of edits showing them looking moody/cross/guilty/silent before Shuggs sacks one of them. None of the fired candidates ever appear as moronic on YBF as they do on The Apprentice(indeed many appear quite nice).

Take for example this week's episode - they lost by about £15. And yet, if you listened to Lord Shuggs, you'd think they were completely, incredibly, hopeless, when the truth it, is was probably luck more than judgement.

RichB

51,508 posts

284 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Mastodon2 said:
That was a brilliant moment. He is a horrible little cretin. One of the highlights of the episode for me was Karen giving him a lesson in basic trading standards when he was trying to fiddle the prices at the market.
What was funnier was that Karen wasn't entirely right, especially with the reason she gave for not putting an RRP.
What would have been the correct reason?

ezi

1,734 posts

186 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Countdown said:
moanthebairns said:
What I want to know is why EVERY "board meeting" when its down to 3 people do they start chucking blame at each other and then trying to deflect any blame from themselves. Honestly I wouldn't hire anyone like that. Its your fault not mines. Rather than, lets learn from this, lets not adopt a blame culture.

Surely to God at some point someone will come along and say, "you know what, I did do that wrong, I miss judged it and it cost us, I'll learn from that and not do it again". here's the positives.
"Normal" behaviour makes cr@p TV. If that happened the TV production company would probably just use lots of edits showing them looking moody/cross/guilty/silent before Shuggs sacks one of them. None of the fired candidates ever appear as moronic on YBF as they do on The Apprentice(indeed many appear quite nice).

Take for example this week's episode - they lost by about £15. And yet, if you listened to Lord Shuggs, you'd think they were completely, incredibly, hopeless, when the truth it, is was probably luck more than judgement.
It wasn'tjjust £15 though, the winning team had several hundred pounds worth of stock left so given more time they wouldn't have humiliated them.

matchmaker

8,478 posts

200 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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ezi said:
Countdown said:
moanthebairns said:
What I want to know is why EVERY "board meeting" when its down to 3 people do they start chucking blame at each other and then trying to deflect any blame from themselves. Honestly I wouldn't hire anyone like that. Its your fault not mines. Rather than, lets learn from this, lets not adopt a blame culture.

Surely to God at some point someone will come along and say, "you know what, I did do that wrong, I miss judged it and it cost us, I'll learn from that and not do it again". here's the positives.
"Normal" behaviour makes cr@p TV. If that happened the TV production company would probably just use lots of edits showing them looking moody/cross/guilty/silent before Shuggs sacks one of them. None of the fired candidates ever appear as moronic on YBF as they do on The Apprentice(indeed many appear quite nice).

Take for example this week's episode - they lost by about £15. And yet, if you listened to Lord Shuggs, you'd think they were completely, incredibly, hopeless, when the truth it, is was probably luck more than judgement.
It wasn'tjjust £15 though, the winning team had several hundred pounds worth of stock left so given more time they wouldn't have humiliated them.
I'm pretty sure that in years gone by that would have counted against them

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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RichB said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
Mastodon2 said:
That was a brilliant moment. He is a horrible little cretin. One of the highlights of the episode for me was Karen giving him a lesson in basic trading standards when he was trying to fiddle the prices at the market.
What was funnier was that Karen wasn't entirely right, especially with the reason she gave for not putting an RRP.
What would have been the correct reason?
You can quote a RRP (despite not having retailed the item before) as long as it is 'realistic'.
Karen was getting confused with reduced/on offer/sale etc. where it has to have previously been offered at the higher price etc.

KTF

9,802 posts

150 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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matchmaker said:
I'm pretty sure that in years gone by that would have counted against them
It used to as it was taken off their final total which is why all the teams go into panic mode and start dumping stock towards the end of the task.

Maybe it wasnt part of the task here but the teams did it anyway to make whatever profit they could as a little bit of something is better than nothing?

RichB

51,508 posts

284 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Mr GrimNasty said:
You can quote a RRP (despite not having retailed the item before) as long as it is 'realistic'..
Thanks, I thought she was confused but didn't know the exact reason. Obviously though I assumed as a manufacturer you would be able to state an RRP after all it's only recommended!

eltawater

3,112 posts

179 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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KTF said:
matchmaker said:
I'm pretty sure that in years gone by that would have counted against them
It used to as it was taken off their final total which is why all the teams go into panic mode and start dumping stock towards the end of the task.

Maybe it wasnt part of the task here but the teams did it anyway to make whatever profit they could as a little bit of something is better than nothing?
This task focused on profit margins, and not volumes of sale (those were the previous tasks).

The production costs (including the unsold stock) were already deducted from the totals at the end to leave the raw profit. Even in the worst case scenario, you could give away the unsold stock and the team still would have won.

There was no bonus for selling out or hitting a specific volume target, that'll be the car dealership task hehe

North West Tom

11,514 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Anyone else catch "decisive decisions"? hehe

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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North West Tom said:
Anyone else catch "decisive decisions"? hehe
Yep!

Evangelion

7,702 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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The candidates are particularly moronic this year. Even worse is the almost complete lack of eye candy on the girls' side. Their only saving grace is the Cameron Diaz lookalike with the luvly Oirish accent.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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Mr GrimNasty said:
You can quote a RRP (despite not having retailed the item before) as long as it is 'realistic'.
Karen was getting confused with reduced/on offer/sale etc. where it has to have previously been offered at the higher price etc.
That's got to be a massive grey area then? If you then don't sell the item at the RRP then by definition is it not reduced/on offer/on sale?

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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jammy_basturd said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
You can quote a RRP (despite not having retailed the item before) as long as it is 'realistic'.
Karen was getting confused with reduced/on offer/sale etc. where it has to have previously been offered at the higher price etc.
That's got to be a massive grey area then? If you then don't sell the item at the RRP then by definition is it not reduced/on offer/on sale?
The sign didn't say it was reduced or on offer. It purely stated the RRP, so was completely legal.

The legislation around showing something as reduced is quite prescribed but easily abused, for example, you could have a small store in Grimsby rotating your full priced stock whilst all the other stores in the country will be showing the "on offer" products.

Mojooo

12,706 posts

180 months

Tuesday 28th October 2014
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CaptainSlow said:
jammy_basturd said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
You can quote a RRP (despite not having retailed the item before) as long as it is 'realistic'.
Karen was getting confused with reduced/on offer/sale etc. where it has to have previously been offered at the higher price etc.
That's got to be a massive grey area then? If you then don't sell the item at the RRP then by definition is it not reduced/on offer/on sale?
The sign didn't say it was reduced or on offer. It purely stated the RRP, so was completely legal.

The legislation around showing something as reduced is quite prescribed but easily abused, for example, you could have a small store in Grimsby rotating your full priced stock whilst all the other stores in the country will be showing the "on offer" products.
In the context of what he was doing it would highly likely breach the consumer protection from unfair trading regulations 2008

what he did, as manufacturer and sole producer of the product is state the RRP was £45 in an attempt to mislead people into thinking the £18 selling price(or whatever it was) represented less than half the usual retail price.

he even quite clearly said lets just make it higher.


Laurel Green

30,776 posts

232 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Ding dong!

KTF

9,802 posts

150 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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And here we go again...

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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"You have 20 minutes to get your sorry arses out of bed"

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
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Has there ever been a task that's as easy to subvert as this? hehe

Jesus just make a video about cats and promote the st out of it on Twitter.