True Detective

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GetCarter

29,400 posts

280 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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darth_pies said:
Watched all 8 eps over the last week. Staggeringly good TV.

Did feel that the quality dipped a little in the last 2 episodes and a lot of what made it great was set-aside for a more standard police procedural. Some of the sense of decay and foreboding was lost as they quickly drove around a load of potential informants and it was all a little too neat and by the numbers.

Also a shame that the killer was ultimately just an insane hillbilly stereotype. I was expecting there to be more to the mythology and his motives rather than it just being a brilliantly executed - but cliched - chase of a nutter through some dark caves.

I get the sense that they weren't sure at the time if it was going to go beyond 8 episodes or into a 2nd season, then decided at a late stage to wrap it all up in 2 episodes.

Still, nothing's perfect and overall you'd have to say that hour-for-hour the 8 episodes are possibly the highest quality bit of telly ever made....brilliant.
There was a second season already planned, but each season will follow different characters: http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/true-detective/238707/t...

darth_pies

697 posts

218 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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GetCarter said:
There was a second season already planned, but each season will follow different characters: http://www.denofgeek.us/tv/true-detective/238707/t...
Yes i meant whether the story from Season 1 would extend into Season 2, rather than whether the series would continue.

Thanks for the link...Colin Farell, Vince Vaughn, Rachel McAdams and the director of Fast and the Furious?!?!? confusedSounds like an entirely different production, and not in a good way.....

Mephistofleas

1,385 posts

191 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Aye I would say the ending didn't do the build up and insanely good acting any justice really.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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darth_pies said:
Watched all 8 eps over the last week. Staggeringly good TV.

Did feel that the quality dipped a little in the last 2 episodes and a lot of what made it great was set-aside for a more standard police procedural. Some of the sense of decay and foreboding was lost as they quickly drove around a load of potential informants and it was all a little too neat and by the numbers.

Also a shame that the killer was ultimately just an insane hillbilly stereotype. I was expecting there to be more to the mythology and his motives rather than it just being a brilliantly executed - but cliched - chase of a nutter through some dark caves.

I get the sense that they weren't sure at the time if it was going to go beyond 8 episodes or into a 2nd season, then decided at a late stage to wrap it all up in 2 episodes.

Still, nothing's perfect and overall you'd have to say that hour-for-hour the 8 episodes are possibly the highest quality bit of telly ever made....brilliant.
Not sure how much more mythology they could stuff into it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcosa#Television
The real big bad was simply beyond the law. The two 'tecs had to satisfy themselves with the henchman.
I imagine it is rather true to life in that regard. There was rather a lot to the whole story they didn't go into, because it was POV from the 'tecs.

richtea78

5,574 posts

159 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Don't call them tecs, it makes you sound retarded biggrin

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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Bloody hell what a series that was, sorry to bump the thread but we just finished this today. Simply fantastic and a wee bit freaky!

Any tips for any other gritty crime dramas would be greatly received thumbup

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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Fargo.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

197 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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Halb said:
Fargo.
Even if you've seen the film?

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Halb said:
Fargo.
Even if you've seen the film?
Oh yes. The only thing that really connects them is the style/ambience.

Adam B

27,262 posts

255 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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Halb said:
Oh yes. The only thing that really connects them is the style/ambience.
Agreed

dai1983

2,917 posts

150 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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captain jack said:
MM has done himself a load of good with this and Dallas Buyers Club.
Started watching this and on episode 4.

I remember him from stty rom coms and a good role in A Time to Kill. My mrs watches Fools Gold every time she is sick which pisses me right off.

I watched Mud and thought he was good and then Dallas Buyers Club where he is awesome. So far TD is something else and Ive not seen interstellar yet. The thing that bothers me is that he doesn't look well. He's gone from a handsome buff bloke to someone that could be genuinely suffering from Aids and drug addiction. I know he's not but it's unerving just the same.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 20th February 2015
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He's looked emaciated for years.
I think he has body issues.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Bloody hell what a series that was, sorry to bump the thread but we just finished this today. Simply fantastic and a wee bit freaky!

Any tips for any other gritty crime dramas would be greatly received thumbup
Assuming you are ok with Subtitles

Gomorrah. Its a very dark gritty Italian gangster series based in Naples. Thing is the director wanted "real" characters and he actually recruited actors who used to be hamsters or had close family who are - one key individual is an active member in a gang in Naples and he was 1 of a group who murdered a rival gangs member at a metro station (clearly that real life bit of it is vile) but the aggression acting/as usual I suppose for many of them makes it my best series of 2014

oobster

7,100 posts

212 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Assuming you are ok with Subtitles

Gomorrah. Its a very dark gritty Italian gangster series based in Naples. Thing is the director wanted "real" characters and he actually recruited actors who used to be hamsters or had close family who are - one key individual is an active member in a gang in Naples and he was 1 of a group who murdered a rival gangs member at a metro station (clearly that real life bit of it is vile) but the aggression acting/as usual I suppose for many of them makes it my best series of 2014
Hamsters?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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oobster said:
Welshbeef said:
Assuming you are ok with Subtitles

Gomorrah. Its a very dark gritty Italian gangster series based in Naples. Thing is the director wanted "real" characters and he actually recruited actors who used to be hamsters or had close family who are - one key individual is an active member in a gang in Naples and he was 1 of a group who murdered a rival gangs member at a metro station (clearly that real life bit of it is vile) but the aggression acting/as usual I suppose for many of them makes it my best series of 2014
Hamsters?
Lol IPhone changes gangsters to hamsters

Art0ir

9,402 posts

171 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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oobster said:
Welshbeef said:
Assuming you are ok with Subtitles

Gomorrah. Its a very dark gritty Italian gangster series based in Naples. Thing is the director wanted "real" characters and he actually recruited actors who used to be hamsters or had close family who are - one key individual is an active member in a gang in Naples and he was 1 of a group who murdered a rival gangs member at a metro station (clearly that real life bit of it is vile) but the aggression acting/as usual I suppose for many of them makes it my best series of 2014
Hamsters?
Lol that certainly changed the context of that synopsis!

Muntu

7,635 posts

200 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Assuming you are ok with Subtitles

Gomorrah. Its a very dark gritty Italian gangster series based in Naples. Thing is the director wanted "real" characters and he actually recruited actors who used to be hamsters or had close family who are - one key individual is an active member in a gang in Naples and he was 1 of a group who murdered a rival gangs member at a metro station (clearly that real life bit of it is vile) but the aggression acting/as usual I suppose for many of them makes it my best series of 2014
Just finished watching Gomorrah, it was indeed pretty good.

Another subtitle one is the French "Braquo". Seasons 1 & 3 were excellent, season 2 a little far fetched, but good.

richtea78

5,574 posts

159 months

Saturday 21st February 2015
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It's not as good but I'm I enjoying Fortitude

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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richtea78 said:
It's not as good but I'm I enjoying Fortitude
True were into this - a few episodes to catchup on but none the less its good so far just hope it doesn't turn into "the 4400" or lost if it does or any hint of that we will cease viewing.

GetCarter

29,400 posts

280 months

Sunday 22nd February 2015
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richtea78 said:
It's not as good but I'm I enjoying Fortitude
I'm not getting into this at all (despite my best intentions). Slow is okay, glacial is something else.