True Detective

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JustinP1

13,330 posts

231 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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From David Lynch to Michael Mann in one episode.

type-r

14,087 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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JustinP1 said:
From David Lynch to Michael Mann in one episode the last 15 mins.
EFA.

Awesome. Finally picking up from the tedious monologue. Has elements of LA Confidential at times, very obviously something deeper than just a hooker and her partner stealing from Caspere. All will unravel (and hopefully fast) and you get that feeling that the Mayor and Caspere have been backhanding one another before things went south or even perhaps something more complex than that, with some players yet to be revealed?! Perhaps the Mayor is even just a clever piece of misdirection?!

motorizer

1,498 posts

172 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Gotta say though, that bar where Farrel and Vaughn meet is the worst pub in the world.
If you went in there to drown your sorrows you'd just come out with more sorrows.... no wonder there is never any other customers....

rohrl

8,738 posts

146 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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The shoot-out was certainly dramatic and exciting but this series is still not drawing me in like the first.

I think it's maybe because the intensity of the relationship between Marty and Rust in the first series was so strong. Maybe because Rust was such a magnetic character, so well portrayed by Matthew McConaughey. The second series having more core characters does dilute the effect somewhat.

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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Well about time. That certainly shook things up.




And Vince Vaughan's wife is lovely - smouldering!

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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motorizer said:
Gotta say though, that bar where Farrel and Vaughn meet is the worst pub in the world.
If you went in there to drown your sorrows you'd just come out with more sorrows.... no wonder there is never any other customers....
rofl

rohrl said:
I think it's maybe because the intensity of the relationship between Marty and Rust in the first series was so strong. Maybe because Rust was such a magnetic character, so well portrayed by Matthew McConaughey. The second series having more core characters does dilute the effect somewhat.
yes Difficult to top a magnetic duo.

redtwin

7,518 posts

183 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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motorizer said:
Gotta say though, that bar where Farrel and Vaughn meet is the worst pub in the world.
If you went in there to drown your sorrows you'd just come out with more sorrows.... no wonder there is never any other customers....
They need to boot that droning folk singer off the stage, she absolutely does my head in.

The shootout was a break from the norm but as much as I like guns I was left thinking "WTH was that all about?". It added nothing to the story at all and as far as TV gun battles go, wasn't all that entertaining.

SWoll

18,429 posts

259 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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redtwin said:
They need to boot that droning folk singer off the stage, she absolutely does my head in.

The shootout was a break from the norm but as much as I like guns I was left thinking "WTH was that all about?". It added nothing to the story at all and as far as TV gun battles go, wasn't all that entertaining.
I thought it was pretty well done, al be it pointless, TBH, It did have the old star trek 'red shirt' thing of killing a load of random people in uniform you'd never been introduced to though.

I did also think it smacked of being shoehorned in just so something mildly interesting happened in the episode. Other than the last 10 minutes the rest was again pretty tedious and generic unfortunately.

redtwin

7,518 posts

183 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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I am not even sure why they were raiding those guys anyway. Are they still investigating the murder of Caspere?. What tied those drug den guys in with that?.


sooperscoop

408 posts

164 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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redtwin said:
I am not even sure why they were raiding those guys anyway. Are they still investigating the murder of Caspere?. What tied those drug den guys in with that?.
Correct me if I'm wrong but one of the Mexicans (the guy at the end that shot the hostage) was the guy that sold stuff stolen from Caspere's place. I only watched the first half on and off so I could be completely off-base.


Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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THe fat cop getting clipped was a surprise.

JustinP1

13,330 posts

231 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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sooperscoop said:
redtwin said:
I am not even sure why they were raiding those guys anyway. Are they still investigating the murder of Caspere?. What tied those drug den guys in with that?.
Correct me if I'm wrong but one of the Mexicans (the guy at the end that shot the hostage) was the guy that sold stuff stolen from Caspere's place. I only watched the first half on and off so I could be completely off-base.
Yep.

Brokeblack Mountain went to a pawn shop and found one of Casperes watches from when the place was turned over, that linked to who pawned it in - his girlfriend/associate.

Colin Barrel tells Vince Vaughn about it, but he's not too interested on the basis that if he's pawning stuff stolen, then he's not got his stacks of cash.

As it happens, the actor playing the mexican guy isn't actually mexican, He's the actor from the PS3 'This is Living' series of ads. He's reasonably decent, so we might actually see him speak at some time, otherwise they could have just got an extra to do his scene.

SWoll

18,429 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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Halb said:
THe fat cop getting clipped was a surprise.
Really? I'd been expecting him to go since he was introduced. Generic, fat , lazy detective with no backstory who hangs around on the fringes and enables them to kill someone recognizable for shock factor without having to lose any of the big cast members.

I genuinely cannot believe how much of a mess the plot is to this show at present when you stop and think about it for a minute, and we are now half way through the season.

type-r

14,087 posts

214 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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SWoll said:
I genuinely cannot believe how much of a mess the plot is to this show at present when you stop and think about it for a minute, and we are now half way through the season.
I agree, I think they have over-done the slowness of the first four episodes. The pacing and the unravelling of the story is just way off with just your usual cliched poor oppressed cop back-stories; hopefully the last four will be a tour de force with the focus primarily on solving the case.

rasto

2,188 posts

238 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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type-r said:
SWoll said:
I genuinely cannot believe how much of a mess the plot is to this show at present when you stop and think about it for a minute, and we are now half way through the season.
I agree, I think they have over-done the slowness of the first four episodes. The pacing and the unravelling of the story is just way off with just your usual cliched poor oppressed cop back-stories; hopefully the last four will be a tour de force with the focus primarily on solving the case.
Pretty much word for word what I just said to my wife about this. I will keep watching because I want to know how the story ends, but it has none of the chemistry/magic that the first season had frown Hate all the 'oh so dramatic' pregnant pauses too, as they just jump out as 'we couldnt think of any interesting/meaningful dialog' here moments. Cliche city at the moment frown

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th July 2015
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I agree, it seems like it's trying so hard to be achingly cool that it's in real danger of just turning into a parody of itself. As others have mentioned, it is chock full of clichés, the signature tune is tiresome (thank God for FF), Neurosis Allisette in the bar would have been OK for one shot in one episode, but almost every week!

SpeedBash

2,325 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Shootout behind the scenes video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwixL5KOx8Q

LoonR1

26,988 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th July 2015
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Watching Vince Vaughn in this is like watching Dr Drake Ramoray and his smell the fart acting.

This is truly st.

Art0ir

9,402 posts

171 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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Remember the first four episodes of season 1 were pretty meh on first viewing too. Every detail however then tied into the plot reveal over the course of the final half.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 17th July 2015
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For me I thought the first series was electric and riveting from the get-go. The relationship, the acting, the style all fitted seamlessly.