Christopher Nolan - Interstellar

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budfox

1,510 posts

130 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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Just watched this. They might just as well have called it "Inception 2001 - The Gravity Edition"

Impressive movie, no question. Long because it needs to be.

The physics, whilst explained accordingly, were still ridiculous.

Like happens so many times with me, I came out of the cinema recognising that I'd just watched something special, but not in the slightest bit interested in watching it again.

However, 'lesser' movies like Wall Street, Rounders, Contact, Taken... etc. I can watch over and over.

6/10 on a personal level, 9/10 as a recognition of the fact it will be an important piece of cinema history.

PF62

3,643 posts

174 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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budfox said:
Just watched this. They might just as well have called it "Inception 2001 - The Gravity Edition"
No, Inception had fewer plot holes.

Liked the marines though.

DJRC

23,563 posts

237 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Since when the fk was Inception supposed to be a good film???

Shaoxter

4,080 posts

125 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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I thought it was amazing, 9/10. Could even forgive all the breaking of the laws of physics. Although one scene near the end was a bit too BS though.

jingars

1,095 posts

241 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Pleased to have seen it on a (very) big screen and with great sound - 8 out of 10 from me; stunning visuals, but a plot that was complete hokum.

So many nods to the 2001 film and also some from the book 3001. I loved the music score. Perhaps in a minority, but I thought that Matthew McConaughey's performance was superb. I had no problem with his dialogue delivery.

KareemK

1,110 posts

120 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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DJRC said:
Since when the fk was Inception supposed to be a good film???
Since forever.

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4.2/5 from 556,782 users on Rotten Tomatoes


JustinP1

13,330 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Saw this on Friday night on an IMAX screen.

I think like Gravity, this would certainly benefit from a BIG screen as this would dramatically affect your immersion in the film. I didn't need a D-BOX seat - the room shook!

Were there science holes? I'd actually say not, I saw Kip Thorne was an exec producer and although the ideas are firmly in theoretical physics, although what we saw was mind bending, I don't think there was anything impossible there.

That's the ting I think, as always in Nolan films, the explanation of the background and plot is delivered to you within the script and not rammed down your throat.

I did 'get' the ending, in fact I saw it halfway through the film, didn't stop my enjoyment though.

As a cinema experience, I'd say it's up there with my very best - 9/10.

As a film I'd watch on a small screen at home... Still good. But not as great.

Shaoxter

4,080 posts

125 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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JustinP1 said:
Were there science holes? I'd actually say not, I saw Kip Thorne was an exec producer and although the ideas are firmly in theoretical physics, although what we saw was mind bending, I don't think there was anything impossible there.
Erm there were loads of physics inaccuracies, such as:

- Getting through a wormhole unscathed
- Escaping the pull of a black hole close to the event horizon requires the space craft to travel near light speed
- The robot can't transmit data past the event horizon
- And of course all the extra dimensional crap

r1flyguy1

1,568 posts

177 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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I watched this yesterday at the iMax and really enjoyed it.

The only downside and this is purely a cinema operator issue given the previous posts, the music drowned out the dialogue on a few occasions.

Other than that, I don't give a toss about physics inaccuracies, it's a scifi film, entertainment, nothing more smile

JustinP1

13,330 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Shaoxter said:
JustinP1 said:
Were there science holes? I'd actually say not, I saw Kip Thorne was an exec producer and although the ideas are firmly in theoretical physics, although what we saw was mind bending, I don't think there was anything impossible there.
Erm there were loads of physics inaccuracies, such as:

- Getting through a wormhole unscathed
- Escaping the pull of a black hole close to the event horizon requires the space craft to travel near light speed
- The robot can't transmit data past the event horizon
- And of course all the extra dimensional crap

The data transmission mad mentioned was 'quantum data'. It's more than we can do at the moment, but based in science.

It has been theorised that one way to make interstellar trips much shorter would be to slingshot around black holes to gain more speed than fuel alone could produce.

The premise of the last act is that the wormhole and the rest were placed there by 'us' at some time in the future. It has been theorised by many that if civilisations are 'out there' and do end up being able to survive and develop for millions of years, being able to harness energy and the laws of physics in a way we can only imagine (including transcending being carbon based) is either a possibility or an inevitability.

IIRC the current thinking is that there are 12 dimensions. The premise of the last act was that 'we' in the future represented the control of higher dimensions in a way that Mahogany could understand, in a three dimensional representation.

JustinP1

13,330 posts

231 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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r1flyguy1 said:
I watched this yesterday at the iMax and really enjoyed it.

The only downside and this is purely a cinema operator issue given the previous posts, the music drowned out the dialogue on a few occasions.

Other than that, I don't give a toss about physics inaccuracies, it's a scifi film, entertainment, nothing more smile
Out of interest, was there horizontal lines for about a minute halfway in?

Did the audio sound very compressed to the point to distortion in the loudest bits of score?

I've actually fired off a complaint to Telford IMAX.

PF62

3,643 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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JustinP1 said:
Were there science holes? I'd actually say not
JustinP1 said:

The premise of the last act is that the wormhole and the rest were placed there by 'us' at some time in the future.


So we need to go through the wormhole, to get the information to save the human race, so the human race can survive so we can then create a wormhole to save the human race.

A pretty big hole.


zetec

4,468 posts

252 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Seen it today. Agree with previous posters regards the soundtrack, far too loud in places. Also the blatant rip off of 2001.

As for a cinematic experience it was stunning, I saw it on the Impact screen at my local Empire, felt as if you were on the spacecraft as the floor shook!

Would I watch it again, on a big screen, yes, On DVD no, like Gravity it has to be seen on a big screen.

My eldest at the end said, this is how Dr Who should be. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.

OldandGrumpy

2,681 posts

242 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Not seen it yet but was it explained how the ship reached the the wormhole? Currently it would take us about two years to reach Saturn. Was that where the wormhole was based. Really bugging me as if it is much beyond Saturn the whole premise collapses for me.

KareemK

1,110 posts

120 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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OldandGrumpy said:
Not seen it yet but was it explained how the ship reached the the wormhole? Currently it would take us about two years to reach Saturn. Was that where the wormhole was based.
Took 2 years to get to Saturn in the film.

OldandGrumpy

2,681 posts

242 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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KareemK said:
Took 2 years to get to Saturn in the film.
cool! Thank you, it was really bugging me.

Ozone

3,046 posts

188 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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I went to see this at our local cinema and we complained that we couldn't hear the dialog at all. Nobody moved or coughed, you could have heard a pin drop it was so quiet. The cinema manager apologised and said it was down to the sound mix and they had complains at their other screens around the country. It seems the people complaining about it being too loud had the sound up to hear the speech.

Unfortunately I didn't hear a lot of what was said so missed some important plot points and came away disappointed.

budfox

1,510 posts

130 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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I don't have a problem with ridiculous physics, but not when they're based on scientific fact.

Once black holes are introduced into a movie then you really need the physics of a black hole to hold true.

If you want something that doesn't obey those laws, then stop referring to them. Make something up, call it a quantum anomaly or a trans-dimensional fissure. Then you can cheat to your heart's content.

Nobody questions something like The Matrix, for this very reason, yet it is far more far-fetched than any of the concepts in Interstellar.

-Z-

6,027 posts

207 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Saw this yesterday, blown away by it. I think it resonates stronger if you have kids.

No problems with dialogue at an Odeon imax screen.

Surprisingly, my wife (who normally hates sci-fi) loved it also. We both agreed that as a thought provoking experience, it beats Gravity easily.

budfox

1,510 posts

130 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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-Z- said:
Saw this yesterday, blown away by it. I think it resonates stronger if you have kids.

No problems with dialogue at an Odeon imax screen.

Surprisingly, my wife (who normally hates sci-fi) loved it also. We both agreed that as a thought provoking experience, it beats Gravity easily.
Gravity was quite simply the most overrated movie in cinema history.