Wheeler Dealers 2014/2015 - New Series
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Just watching it now.
ABS is a common problem, as is the sunroof.
It looks like the car is Aquamarine Blue, which was the colour of my first Corrado VR6 that I only owned briefly before getting the one I owned for 14 years which was Midnight Blue.
The engine sound takes me back to this little video I made a few years ago.
https://youtu.be/hheFppaDaPo
ABS is a common problem, as is the sunroof.
It looks like the car is Aquamarine Blue, which was the colour of my first Corrado VR6 that I only owned briefly before getting the one I owned for 14 years which was Midnight Blue.
The engine sound takes me back to this little video I made a few years ago.
https://youtu.be/hheFppaDaPo
P-Jay said:
Really enjoyed last night's episode.
Surprised the engine sounded so sweet, the timing chains tend to be clattering their arse off by 140k miles, perhaps they'd already been done.
Lovely car though, I was thinking they might have used a bit of poetic license on the buying price, but it seems not!
There was no mention of chains having been done and I thought the engine sounded like it had the marble in a jar noise coming from it!Surprised the engine sounded so sweet, the timing chains tend to be clattering their arse off by 140k miles, perhaps they'd already been done.
Lovely car though, I was thinking they might have used a bit of poetic license on the buying price, but it seems not!
Unfortunately there is no set time to replace them, I've had one chain snap at 90k, one tensioner explode at 140k but rebuilt one on 177k which still had original chains.
Cracking episode though I really enjoyed it an not just as a Corrado fan. Great seeing Edd faff with the sunroof
I best stockpile a few more Corrados!!
The car looks like it had heated seats at one point, but some electrical tape had been put over the switches. This was never mentioned, but seemed to have been fixed by the end of the programme.
Also, even the K-reg cars had on-board diagnostics (albeit the old "2x2" Diagnostic Data Link Connection) so Edd could have plugged in a VAG-COM and read the fault codes and saved himself some aggro on the ABS pump. You could see the "2x2" connector when Edd removed the gearstick surround.
As others have mentioned, I'm really surprised that Edd didn't check the cam chains. I'm also surprised that the coil pack wasn't playing up - they usually do.
One thing that was news to me was the oil cooler. I didn't know it had one as standard - I had an external aftermarket oil cooler fitted to mine due to the oil getting very hot on track days (I think I saw an indicated 138°C on one track day).
The sunroof opening but not closing is a common fault - mine did that. I never bothered to fix it as the quotes to do so were fairly eye-watering (and the repair kits were also rare as rocking-horse s
t) and it wasn't important to me.
The replacement leather interior was a good move. Pretty much a no-brainer given the shabby cloth interior the car had.
Lupo arms and blades was a very common upgrade. My Corrado was one of the very last made and they actually fixed the issue anyway by then.
I think the buyer paid over the odds at £5,500
Also, even the K-reg cars had on-board diagnostics (albeit the old "2x2" Diagnostic Data Link Connection) so Edd could have plugged in a VAG-COM and read the fault codes and saved himself some aggro on the ABS pump. You could see the "2x2" connector when Edd removed the gearstick surround.
As others have mentioned, I'm really surprised that Edd didn't check the cam chains. I'm also surprised that the coil pack wasn't playing up - they usually do.
One thing that was news to me was the oil cooler. I didn't know it had one as standard - I had an external aftermarket oil cooler fitted to mine due to the oil getting very hot on track days (I think I saw an indicated 138°C on one track day).
The sunroof opening but not closing is a common fault - mine did that. I never bothered to fix it as the quotes to do so were fairly eye-watering (and the repair kits were also rare as rocking-horse s
t) and it wasn't important to me. The replacement leather interior was a good move. Pretty much a no-brainer given the shabby cloth interior the car had.
Lupo arms and blades was a very common upgrade. My Corrado was one of the very last made and they actually fixed the issue anyway by then.
I think the buyer paid over the odds at £5,500
aka_kerrly said:
P-Jay said:
Really enjoyed last night's episode.
Surprised the engine sounded so sweet, the timing chains tend to be clattering their arse off by 140k miles, perhaps they'd already been done.
Lovely car though, I was thinking they might have used a bit of poetic license on the buying price, but it seems not!
There was no mention of chains having been done and I thought the engine sounded like it had the marble in a jar noise coming from it!Surprised the engine sounded so sweet, the timing chains tend to be clattering their arse off by 140k miles, perhaps they'd already been done.
Lovely car though, I was thinking they might have used a bit of poetic license on the buying price, but it seems not!
Unfortunately there is no set time to replace them, I've had one chain snap at 90k, one tensioner explode at 140k but rebuilt one on 177k which still had original chains.
Cracking episode though I really enjoyed it an not just as a Corrado fan. Great seeing Edd faff with the sunroof
I best stockpile a few more Corrados!!
P-Jay said:
Yeah I seem to recall VW said they should last the life of the car.
Specialist wanted £1000 to do it - would have been a good job for Wheeler Dealers I think.
I rebuilt a vr6 recently, for the clutch, hesdgasket kit, Upper lower chains & tensioners, waterpump,auxiliary tensioner plus all fluids & service items was around 700quid.Specialist wanted £1000 to do it - would have been a good job for Wheeler Dealers I think.
a garage would charge up toward 2k for that lot but then how much would 3 Cambelt an tensioners cost on a 944
JonRB said:
One thing that was news to me was the oil cooler. I didn't know it had one as standard - I had an external aftermarket oil cooler fitted to mine due to the oil getting very hot on track days (I think I saw an indicated 138°C on one track day).
My MK3 16v, 8v & VR6 had the very same cooler Ed swapped out last night and they are crap. They break down over time and leak from the vents, I replaced two of them, easy on the 8v but was a pig like Ed said on the VR6. I also fitted another cooler as like you said, you wouldn't know it was even fitted!
P-Jay said:
aka_kerrly said:
P-Jay said:
Really enjoyed last night's episode.
Surprised the engine sounded so sweet, the timing chains tend to be clattering their arse off by 140k miles, perhaps they'd already been done.
Lovely car though, I was thinking they might have used a bit of poetic license on the buying price, but it seems not!
There was no mention of chains having been done and I thought the engine sounded like it had the marble in a jar noise coming from it!Surprised the engine sounded so sweet, the timing chains tend to be clattering their arse off by 140k miles, perhaps they'd already been done.
Lovely car though, I was thinking they might have used a bit of poetic license on the buying price, but it seems not!
Unfortunately there is no set time to replace them, I've had one chain snap at 90k, one tensioner explode at 140k but rebuilt one on 177k which still had original chains.
Cracking episode though I really enjoyed it an not just as a Corrado fan. Great seeing Edd faff with the sunroof
I best stockpile a few more Corrados!!
aka_kerrly said:
There was no mention of chains having been done and I thought the engine sounded like it had the marble in a jar noise coming from it!
Unfortunately there is no set time to replace them, I've had one chain snap at 90k, one tensioner explode at 140k but rebuilt one on 177k which still had original chains.
It's a general rule of thumb in the VR6 world to have it done when you start to hear chain rattle, and by around 100k+ you should consider having it done anyway. Generally it's best to have the clutch replaced and the valve stem seals replaced whilst you're at it, as there is a big overlap on labour. And since you're doing that you may as well fit hotter cams whilst the engine is in pieces, and maybe a VGI, and... and... Unfortunately there is no set time to replace them, I've had one chain snap at 90k, one tensioner explode at 140k but rebuilt one on 177k which still had original chains.
JonRB said:
And since you're doing that you may as well fit hotter cams whilst the engine is in pieces, and maybe a VGI, and... and...
Yes things escalate quickly, in my case a Grant motorsport head, ported inlet & throttle body, 268* cams, 6branch, lightened & balanced flywheel fitted the first time the engine was apart. I do admire a Shrick/VWM VGI but for the money I'd sooner fit a supercharger!
aka_kerrly said:
Yes things escalate quickly, in my case a Grant motorsport head, ported inlet & throttle body, 268* cams, 6branch, lightened & balanced flywheel fitted the first time the engine was apart.
I do admire a Shrick/VWM VGI but for the money I'd sooner fit a supercharger!
Funny you should say that, but having taken a Corrado VR6 to pretty much the limit of NA tuning, all but, and spent something like £8k getting there, I can completely agree. With hindsight, I shouldn't have spent stupid money on a debadged Schrick VGI and all the other stuff, but should have just wapped on a Vortech supercharger. I do admire a Shrick/VWM VGI but for the money I'd sooner fit a supercharger!
My conceit was to try for "OEM+" and make the car that the VW Engineers intended. And, for me, that was N/A and a VSR/VGI.
Poor use of money, I know.
Edit: Ported head and 6-branch were the only things I didn't do.
Edited by JonRB on Thursday 8th October 13:07
VW's have had those oil/water heat exchangers for years, back to the Mk1 Golf right up to some Mk4 platform engines.
A couple of friends used to race in the 750MC Golf GTI series and following a rather heavy front impact at Cadwell park, me and a mate were tasked to head off to all the scrappies in the area to find a replacement cooler.
The last one we got to, about to shut, in the pissing rain, had all their vehicles grouped by make, we saw the VWs and ran over, found a Scirocco and managed to wrangle it off just as the guy was walking round asking people to finish up.
A couple of friends used to race in the 750MC Golf GTI series and following a rather heavy front impact at Cadwell park, me and a mate were tasked to head off to all the scrappies in the area to find a replacement cooler.
The last one we got to, about to shut, in the pissing rain, had all their vehicles grouped by make, we saw the VWs and ran over, found a Scirocco and managed to wrangle it off just as the guy was walking round asking people to finish up.
Sorry to go back to the Corrado, but I'd like to have seen how they bled the brakes after the ABS pump change. My BMWs need to have the pump activated to bleed if any air has enters the pump. They are activated using OBD software. Does similar need to be done to older ABS systems, and how is it activated?
pingu393 said:
Sorry to go back to the Corrado, but I'd like to have seen how they bled the brakes after the ABS pump change. My BMWs need to have the pump activated to bleed if any air has enters the pump. They are activated using OBD software. Does similar need to be done to older ABS systems, and how is it activated?
Even a Corrado VR6 as old as theirs has OBD, just not a standard OBD2 connector. It has the older "2x2" connector but an adaptor is available. Post-facelife Corrado VR6 models have a standard OBD2 connector. Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff