Wheeler Dealers 2014/2015 - New Series
Discussion
JonRB said:
Just to recap on what someone said earlier in the thread, it's to capture channel surfers and other people who haven't read the whole thread watched the whole programme. Ironically. 
ISWYDT....It still makes no sense whatsoever though.
"what's this programme "Wheeler Dealers"? Never heard of it. Hmm....shall I press my "info" button...nah, I'll figure it out. What's this tall bloke doing with the broken plane. No, wait, it's a train isn't it? Fck me. No idea what is happening now...some bloke driving a car or something....ahhh brain aneurysm!!"
Please do an edit for UK audiences with an attention span greater than 5mins and replace all the recap b
ks with footage of Ed doing work to the car that never even gets a mention at the end....Or just make a it a 30min show, so that I don't have to fast forward through all the guff.
TEKNOPUG said:
ISWYDT....
TEKNOPUG said:
Please do an edit for UK audiences with an attention span greater than 5mins and replace all the recap bks with footage of Ed doing work to the car that never even gets a mention at the end....
I certainly don't disagree with you - I'd love to see less filler and more Edd. Unless Edd is using filler, of course. ks with footage of Ed doing work to the car that never even gets a mention at the end....
Couple of new ones for sale on the Discovery website, a 1976 Jaguar XJC 4.2 and a 1957 Ford Thunderbird 312cu V8:
http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/wheeler-dealers/buy...
http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/wheeler-dealers/buy...
chris watton said:
Couple of new ones for sale on the Discovery website, a 1976 Jaguar XJC 4.2 and a 1957 Ford Thunderbird 312cu V8:
http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/wheeler-dealers/buy...
Have we seen those on the show yet?http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/wheeler-dealers/buy...
monthefish said:
chris watton said:
Couple of new ones for sale on the Discovery website, a 1976 Jaguar XJC 4.2 and a 1957 Ford Thunderbird 312cu V8:
http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/wheeler-dealers/buy...
Have we seen those on the show yet?http://www.discoveryuk.com/web/wheeler-dealers/buy...
"Wheeler Dealers: Top 5" is on Discovery HD at the moment, and I have to say that the heavily edited shortened format for each car is really working for me. Just shows how much guff there is.
Edd is looking *so* young on the Mini though! Just reminds you how long Wheeler Dealers has been going on for.
Edd is looking *so* young on the Mini though! Just reminds you how long Wheeler Dealers has been going on for.
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, as I haven't looked through the topic, but is anyone else slightly miffed at this show because of Mike Brewer?
With the advantage of a Virgin Tivo box, I record Wheeler Dealers en-mass. When it comes to watching them, I realise that the slow has too much filler, and the content is extremely diluted. As an example, here is a typical episode:
It would of been better to have Mike do the usual car bit at the beginning in a very condensed fashion (IE: We need to buy a fast estate and see if we can turn a profit), but then for him to buy off-screen with absolutely no mention of what he's bought or costs. This way, when he brings it to the workshop you are actually interested in what was bought, how much he paid for it, and more importantly what needs fixing. The rest of the show (and I mean the entire show after this portion) should just then be Ed fixing the car, with perhaps a token 30 second statement at the end on how much they ended up selling it for. The challenges of "Buy a car and fix it for 1k" from the early years were fantastic, and this should come back immediately.
Now I don't dislike Mike (despite what I've written), I just think he's given too much screen time considering he doesn't come across as a great salesman. His happy chappy act also grates on me, and I've read that he's pretty handy with a spanner so why not get them both involved on the car mechanically? If the format was changed to the above, he would still be in the show but would portray a more palatable character. Remove the buying and selling parts, the over-acting and most definitely the fking recaps - and the show will become a winner again. Mike and Ed working on the car doing proper DIY fixes (not having use of a 4k machine to skim brakes for example) would be the best thing but the show has probably evolved past that now.
Apologies for the semi-rant, but this format has been largely unchanged since the shows start and it really bugs the hell out of me.
With the advantage of a Virgin Tivo box, I record Wheeler Dealers en-mass. When it comes to watching them, I realise that the slow has too much filler, and the content is extremely diluted. As an example, here is a typical episode:
Ren Esis... like literally just now said:
Mike talks to the viewer about a car he wants to buy. Sometimes they are classics, other times just bangers that could 'bring us a tidy profit'. The first 10 minutes are dedicated to Mike finding the car, test driving it whilst finding faults so he can haggle with the seller. Standard stuff when buying a car.
He gets back to the seller, does that annoying thing where he sucks air through his teeth and runs off a list of faults that he mentioned 30 seconds prior on the test drive but arranges a deal at a lower price. "PUT ARRT YER 'AND". All good so far, sets up the show nicely you'd think.
He then takes car back to Ed to get his initial response. He tells him what's wrong with the car and what needs changing... but hang on, we saw all this literally seconds ago. Why even have the beginning bit if you're going to repeat it all again in the exact same way?
Ed and Mike talk about what sort of work will need doing to the car, and a possible diagnosis for each problem. Mike is then tasked with a side job to get him out the way (i.e. get a dashboard, refurbish some alloys, locate a replacement part etc).
Advert break
After the break, we're given a 30 second recap on the car that was just bought. What was wrong with it (again), what they are going to do to it (again), and a reiteration of what the show is about (i.e. can we turn a profit). After the recap, Ed actually starts working on the car and this is normally where I stop the FF and start playing. This portion usually lasts about 15 minutes.
Advert break
After the second break, another recap except now with Ed's bits added in from before the break. So that's just over 30 minutes into the 60 minute run-time, two recaps, and only about 15 minutes of Ed doing any work. This continues to a mixture of Ed working on the car and Mike fetching the interior or whatever. To me, this bit is purely added for advertisement for the company doing the work/providing the parts but hey ho.
After Mikes bit, he comes back to the garage full of enthusiasm and asks Ed what he's done so far. This goes into detail with Ed telling Mike what parts he's replaced. ARGH why is this here?! WE KNOW! WE WATCHED HIM DO IT! At this point we have had around 3 recaps of information from earlier in the episode.
Mike hands over the dashboard, and states with a great sense of misplaced pride "Ed, yew will be surprised to know that I got this second hand dashboard for.... wait for it.... £800. Can you believe it?!?". (If you actually check eBay for whatever Mike bought, you can usually find it at a cost of 75% less - try it).
Ed finishes off the car, and we're treated to a shot of it revolving on a massive plate. Wow OK, at this point it doesn't really feel like I've seen that much work done to damned car. Another recap is shown of what they did
"So 'ow mach 'av we spent?" Costs are put up on screen, and usually have items on there that have not been show such as "replaced fluids" etc... Believe me, I would rather watch Ed change the fluids on every episode than recap after recap after recap.
Advert break
Oh for fks sake, another recap. Mike and Ed test drive the car on a track/countryside etc. Completely unnecessary, who cares if Mike can beat Ed in a drift race.
This cuts to the Buyer arriving and checking out the car in comical fashion. I think I saw someone actually kick the tyres once while Mike was talking to the camera.
Mike walks over and buyer who acts surprised to see him ("Oh hello mate! Just moving my head left to right while looking at the interior" ...fantastic acting). The car is advertised for £4000, but Mike needs £3400 to break even. The buyer offers £3000 to which Mike sucks in air through his teeth again, and retorts he cant accept that but will meet him in the middle and accept £3500. Not £3900, £3500. He is clearly a master salesman.
Now obviously that's not a real buying situation, and this haggle is probably condensed to save screen time (fking LOL at this)... but if this is true then, why have it at all?
Take off the breaks, it becomes a 45 minute program. Remove Mike completely including the over-acted buying/selling portion and it lasts more like 20 minutes. He gets back to the seller, does that annoying thing where he sucks air through his teeth and runs off a list of faults that he mentioned 30 seconds prior on the test drive but arranges a deal at a lower price. "PUT ARRT YER 'AND". All good so far, sets up the show nicely you'd think.
He then takes car back to Ed to get his initial response. He tells him what's wrong with the car and what needs changing... but hang on, we saw all this literally seconds ago. Why even have the beginning bit if you're going to repeat it all again in the exact same way?
Ed and Mike talk about what sort of work will need doing to the car, and a possible diagnosis for each problem. Mike is then tasked with a side job to get him out the way (i.e. get a dashboard, refurbish some alloys, locate a replacement part etc).
Advert break
After the break, we're given a 30 second recap on the car that was just bought. What was wrong with it (again), what they are going to do to it (again), and a reiteration of what the show is about (i.e. can we turn a profit). After the recap, Ed actually starts working on the car and this is normally where I stop the FF and start playing. This portion usually lasts about 15 minutes.
Advert break
After the second break, another recap except now with Ed's bits added in from before the break. So that's just over 30 minutes into the 60 minute run-time, two recaps, and only about 15 minutes of Ed doing any work. This continues to a mixture of Ed working on the car and Mike fetching the interior or whatever. To me, this bit is purely added for advertisement for the company doing the work/providing the parts but hey ho.
After Mikes bit, he comes back to the garage full of enthusiasm and asks Ed what he's done so far. This goes into detail with Ed telling Mike what parts he's replaced. ARGH why is this here?! WE KNOW! WE WATCHED HIM DO IT! At this point we have had around 3 recaps of information from earlier in the episode.
Mike hands over the dashboard, and states with a great sense of misplaced pride "Ed, yew will be surprised to know that I got this second hand dashboard for.... wait for it.... £800. Can you believe it?!?
". (If you actually check eBay for whatever Mike bought, you can usually find it at a cost of 75% less - try it).Ed finishes off the car, and we're treated to a shot of it revolving on a massive plate. Wow OK, at this point it doesn't really feel like I've seen that much work done to damned car. Another recap is shown of what they did
"So 'ow mach 'av we spent?" Costs are put up on screen, and usually have items on there that have not been show such as "replaced fluids" etc... Believe me, I would rather watch Ed change the fluids on every episode than recap after recap after recap.
Advert break
Oh for f
ks sake, another recap. Mike and Ed test drive the car on a track/countryside etc. Completely unnecessary, who cares if Mike can beat Ed in a drift race.This cuts to the Buyer arriving and checking out the car in comical fashion. I think I saw someone actually kick the tyres once while Mike was talking to the camera.
Mike walks over and buyer who acts surprised to see him ("Oh hello mate! Just moving my head left to right while looking at the interior" ...fantastic acting). The car is advertised for £4000, but Mike needs £3400 to break even. The buyer offers £3000 to which Mike sucks in air through his teeth again, and retorts he cant accept that but will meet him in the middle and accept £3500. Not £3900, £3500. He is clearly a master salesman.
Now obviously that's not a real buying situation, and this haggle is probably condensed to save screen time (f
king LOL at this)... but if this is true then, why have it at all?It would of been better to have Mike do the usual car bit at the beginning in a very condensed fashion (IE: We need to buy a fast estate and see if we can turn a profit), but then for him to buy off-screen with absolutely no mention of what he's bought or costs. This way, when he brings it to the workshop you are actually interested in what was bought, how much he paid for it, and more importantly what needs fixing. The rest of the show (and I mean the entire show after this portion) should just then be Ed fixing the car, with perhaps a token 30 second statement at the end on how much they ended up selling it for. The challenges of "Buy a car and fix it for 1k" from the early years were fantastic, and this should come back immediately.
Now I don't dislike Mike (despite what I've written), I just think he's given too much screen time considering he doesn't come across as a great salesman. His happy chappy act also grates on me, and I've read that he's pretty handy with a spanner so why not get them both involved on the car mechanically? If the format was changed to the above, he would still be in the show but would portray a more palatable character. Remove the buying and selling parts, the over-acting and most definitely the f
king recaps - and the show will become a winner again. Mike and Ed working on the car doing proper DIY fixes (not having use of a 4k machine to skim brakes for example) would be the best thing but the show has probably evolved past that now.Apologies for the semi-rant, but this format has been largely unchanged since the shows start and it really bugs the hell out of me.
Edited by Ren Esis on Monday 16th June 15:43
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