Wheeler Dealers 2014/2015 - New Series
Discussion
CooperD said:
Another enjoyable and interesting episode. Not a car I would want myself but the gearbox fix was very informative.
Makes you wonder if, when you took the gearbox to a specialist (same with the Boxster gearbox oil change), would they have been so honest with the diagnosis....?chris watton said:
Makes you wonder if, when you took the gearbox to a specialist (same with the Boxster gearbox oil change), would they have been so honest with the diagnosis....?
You'd have still paid a lot in labour, though. They never figure that on Wheeler Dealers, apart from comments from Edd like "if you took this to a specialist they'd probably charge you £300 in labour" or suchlike. Also, most specialists wouldn't have taken the risk of stripping it down - they'd have put a reconditioned gearbox in on an exchange basis and the gearbox reconditioner would have had a nice little windfall.
JonRB said:
You'd have still paid a lot in labour, though. They never figure that on Wheeler Dealers, apart from comments from Edd like "if you took this to a specialist they'd probably charge you £300 in labour" or suchlike.
Also, most specialists wouldn't have taken the risk of stripping it down - they'd have put a reconditioned gearbox in on an exchange basis and the gearbox reconditioner would have had a nice little windfall.
The idea is that you "could" do it yourself as such the cost is purely your time. Also, most specialists wouldn't have taken the risk of stripping it down - they'd have put a reconditioned gearbox in on an exchange basis and the gearbox reconditioner would have had a nice little windfall.
Now clearly some people think changing a wheel is pretty tough going while thee are others who happily change discs and pads others can do head gasket changes etc so in theory those with the relevant DIY skills could do it/try it. Worst case the gearbox is shot so provided you can buy a recon one cheap factor that in then happy days.
Still it appears to be strong money for an old one with largish miles/normal average miles for the age.
Welshbeef said:
The idea is that you "could" do it yourself as such the cost is purely your time.
Now clearly some people think changing a wheel is pretty tough going while thee are others who happily change discs and pads others can do head gasket changes etc so in theory those with the relevant DIY skills could do it/try it. Worst case the gearbox is shot so provided you can buy a recon one cheap factor that in then happy days.
Those are fair points. Now clearly some people think changing a wheel is pretty tough going while thee are others who happily change discs and pads others can do head gasket changes etc so in theory those with the relevant DIY skills could do it/try it. Worst case the gearbox is shot so provided you can buy a recon one cheap factor that in then happy days.
Although I'm not sure even the most well-equipped of home mechanics would have access to some of the kit that Edd does (although he does sometimes point out on some that you can hire it).
Taking Aircon regassing in-house is a case in point - the machines are very expensive as is the training and certification.
Welshbeef said:
Still it appears to be strong money for an old one with largish miles/normal average miles for the age.
Could be that the fact it is a Wheeler Dealers car, and you get to be on telly if you buy it, means people are willing to pay a little over the odds?Edited by JonRB on Tuesday 16th September 11:14
In my experience as an ex owner, they don't go milky, they craze, so polishing only takes you so far. The way to deal with it is to replace them or the lenses, which owners have done as a semi cheap fix by heating them in domestic ovens in order to release the adhesive between the lens & the unit.
Put it this way, the TT forum is a mine of information.
Put it this way, the TT forum is a mine of information.
To remove the gearbox they had to first remove the subframe and before doing this Ed had to fabricate a bracket that would take the weight of the engine once the subframe was removed. There are very few people who could DIY this job. Once all this was done, the repair itself looked easy but on the whole, it is far from a DIY job.
Also once the subframe has been removed and refitted the geometry of the car would need to be set up. This wasn't mentioned on the program.
Also once the subframe has been removed and refitted the geometry of the car would need to be set up. This wasn't mentioned on the program.
Funkycoldribena said:
Emeye said:
No way is a prefacelift 140k mile TT worth £3650! My last MK1 TT is being sold by my mate, who I sold it to, for only £4500 and I bet he would let it go for £4k ish. It is a 2002 facelift, has pretty much full Audi SH, is in fantastic condition and only has 76k miles on the clock.
More wheeler dealer fantasy.
Yep,how dare they sell it for that when your mate only wants 4k.More wheeler dealer fantasy.
I was trying to make the point that a 140k mile TT is not worth £3650 when a brief look on Autotrader etc shows much lower mileage cars in good nick for not much more - it just happens I have a good, current example to share.
Here is an example of one - and this is not the one my mate is selling:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Am I accusing them of making the price up? I have wondered in the past. My own experience of Reality TV is that it isn't very real, so everything I watch I take with a pinch of salt.
Reading this thread suggests that they may do stuff to the car that they don't show.
The only other reason I can see for the car selling for so much is because it is a Wheeler Dealer Car.
Not a bad episode but a bit of a high price for a Y plate with 140k but i can get over that, what I am already tired of the Americanisation of the format.
Like others have said in the past about WD and the many many car themed shows on Discovery, why do the producers/editors think that we only have a 2 minute attention span and forget the entire show in between adverts?!
Like others have said in the past about WD and the many many car themed shows on Discovery, why do the producers/editors think that we only have a 2 minute attention span and forget the entire show in between adverts?!
Emeye said:
Are you a wheeler dealer fanboy?
I was trying to make the point that a 140k mile TT is not worth £3650 when a brief look on Autotrader etc shows much lower mileage cars in good nick for not much more - it just happens I have a good, current example to share.
Here is an example of one - and this is not the one my mate is selling:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Am I accusing them of making the price up? I have wondered in the past. My own experience of Reality TV is that it isn't very real, so everything I watch I take with a pinch of salt.
Reading this thread suggests that they may do stuff to the car that they don't show.
The only other reason I can see for the car selling for so much is because it is a Wheeler Dealer Car.
Who cares? Its a TV program.I was trying to make the point that a 140k mile TT is not worth £3650 when a brief look on Autotrader etc shows much lower mileage cars in good nick for not much more - it just happens I have a good, current example to share.
Here is an example of one - and this is not the one my mate is selling:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Am I accusing them of making the price up? I have wondered in the past. My own experience of Reality TV is that it isn't very real, so everything I watch I take with a pinch of salt.
Reading this thread suggests that they may do stuff to the car that they don't show.
The only other reason I can see for the car selling for so much is because it is a Wheeler Dealer Car.
Funkycoldribena said:
Emeye said:
Are you a wheeler dealer fanboy?
I was trying to make the point that a 140k mile TT is not worth £3650 when a brief look on Autotrader etc shows much lower mileage cars in good nick for not much more - it just happens I have a good, current example to share.
Here is an example of one - and this is not the one my mate is selling:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Am I accusing them of making the price up? I have wondered in the past. My own experience of Reality TV is that it isn't very real, so everything I watch I take with a pinch of salt.
Reading this thread suggests that they may do stuff to the car that they don't show.
The only other reason I can see for the car selling for so much is because it is a Wheeler Dealer Car.
Who cares? Its a TV program.I was trying to make the point that a 140k mile TT is not worth £3650 when a brief look on Autotrader etc shows much lower mileage cars in good nick for not much more - it just happens I have a good, current example to share.
Here is an example of one - and this is not the one my mate is selling:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Am I accusing them of making the price up? I have wondered in the past. My own experience of Reality TV is that it isn't very real, so everything I watch I take with a pinch of salt.
Reading this thread suggests that they may do stuff to the car that they don't show.
The only other reason I can see for the car selling for so much is because it is a Wheeler Dealer Car.
Usually I don't have much to say on WD, but I have a soft spot for MK1 Audi TTs, and having owned a couple, one until only quite recently, I thought I could add to the debate.
Emeye said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Emeye said:
Are you a wheeler dealer fanboy?
I was trying to make the point that a 140k mile TT is not worth £3650 when a brief look on Autotrader etc shows much lower mileage cars in good nick for not much more - it just happens I have a good, current example to share.
Here is an example of one - and this is not the one my mate is selling:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Am I accusing them of making the price up? I have wondered in the past. My own experience of Reality TV is that it isn't very real, so everything I watch I take with a pinch of salt.
Reading this thread suggests that they may do stuff to the car that they don't show.
The only other reason I can see for the car selling for so much is because it is a Wheeler Dealer Car.
Who cares? Its a TV program.I was trying to make the point that a 140k mile TT is not worth £3650 when a brief look on Autotrader etc shows much lower mileage cars in good nick for not much more - it just happens I have a good, current example to share.
Here is an example of one - and this is not the one my mate is selling:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Am I accusing them of making the price up? I have wondered in the past. My own experience of Reality TV is that it isn't very real, so everything I watch I take with a pinch of salt.
Reading this thread suggests that they may do stuff to the car that they don't show.
The only other reason I can see for the car selling for so much is because it is a Wheeler Dealer Car.
Usually I don't have much to say on WD, but I have a soft spot for MK1 Audi TTs, and having owned a couple, one until only quite recently, I thought I could add to the debate.
Emeye said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Emeye said:
No way is a prefacelift 140k mile TT worth £3650! My last MK1 TT is being sold by my mate, who I sold it to, for only £4500 and I bet he would let it go for £4k ish. It is a 2002 facelift, has pretty much full Audi SH, is in fantastic condition and only has 76k miles on the clock.
More wheeler dealer fantasy.
Yep,how dare they sell it for that when your mate only wants 4k.More wheeler dealer fantasy.
I was trying to make the point that a 140k mile TT is not worth £3650 when a brief look on Autotrader etc shows much lower mileage cars in good nick for not much more - it just happens I have a good, current example to share.
Here is an example of one - and this is not the one my mate is selling:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
Am I accusing them of making the price up? I have wondered in the past. My own experience of Reality TV is that it isn't very real, so everything I watch I take with a pinch of salt.
Reading this thread suggests that they may do stuff to the car that they don't show.
The only other reason I can see for the car selling for so much is because it is a Wheeler Dealer Car.
I'd take a car with £1500 of recent, documented work over a car with 40k less miles; certainly when they are more than 10yo.
TEKNOPUG said:
They are 10 yo cars though - mileage counts for very little, it's all about condition, service history and recent parts. The WD car had just had a brand new clutch installed, Haldex service, new headlights and knowing WD, a whole load of other work done that they don't mention in the show. They aren't going to let a car that they have worked on be released to the public unless they are 100% happy with it. So you can expect that it's had a full service and geo-check at least. That's going to be an easy £1500 if you were to take it to a garage to get all of the above done.
I'd take a car with £1500 of recent, documented work over a car with 40k less miles; certainly when they are more than 10yo.
A high mileage TT with all that work done is still a ticking time bomb - hell a low mileage TT with buckets of receipts is still a ticking time bomb - I have been there and worn the Tshirt quite recently! How much is that car going to be when the current owner sells it with another 20k on the clock? - it just becomes another high mileage TT.I'd take a car with £1500 of recent, documented work over a car with 40k less miles; certainly when they are more than 10yo.
That's why I like Fast N Loud - it appears to be based on a real business, rather than just a TV programme - yes it's silly, but at least they wear that silliness with pride - the old episode I watched last night they lost about $20k on some cars they sold at auction - they looked genuinely gutted - I felt gutted for them - it could have been just for TV, but if Mike and Ed make a loss it doesn't matter to them, other than Mike's ego - this may be the same for Fast N Loud soon as they are becoming stars and the TV revenue may become more important than the business revenue.
I still enjoy Wheeler Dealer - I remember one of the very first ones where Mike "managed" to source a full mint leather SAAB turbo interior for £100 and the first thing we all talked about at work how there was no way mere mortals such as us could have found a full interior at that price.
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