Fifth Gear....spring 2014

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Shilvers

599 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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N8CYL said:
How new is new? I noticed at the end, that the episode was recorded in 2012! MMX11 and yet the cars had 63 plates.
I'm confused as well....

Our Tivo wasn't going to record it as it is not flagging up as a new episode. (screened last year according to the Tivo) Looking at the episode guide on Discovery, some episodes do look very familiar.

Bit confused

GTiRichTea

119 posts

137 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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Really enjoyed that episode much more than i did the recent top gear.
The 3 way test with the GTR 911 and m600 was great also but i would have loved to see a 1/2mile or 1mile drag race or maybe a run from 30mph roll as it does not show the M600 at its best on a short run.
Seeing the Lola Drayson B12/69 EV run was also very interesting.

viggyp

1,917 posts

135 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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I enjoyed the show last night. The Mini was very impressive but Plato was fighting the "little fighter".

Loved the triple test although how many Porsche's do they get their hands on?

Seeing the Bertone museum with Stratos, Countach & Miura together was like looking at a part of my dream garage.

Edited for dyxlexic fingers

Edited by viggyp on Tuesday 25th February 09:36

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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GTiRichTea said:
Really enjoyed that episode much more than i did the recent top gear.
The 3 way test with the GTR 911 and m600 was great also but i would have loved to see a 1/2mile or 1mile drag race or maybe a run from 30mph roll as it does not show the M600 at its best on a short run.
Seeing the Lola Drayson B12/69 EV run was also very interesting.
The straights on the 2 lap race showed the Noble's strength; it devoured the other two.

LuS1fer

41,132 posts

245 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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selym said:
The straights on the 2 lap race showed the Noble's strength; it devoured the other two.
Still looked like a kit car though.

BlackpoolRock

1,183 posts

152 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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Used to really dislike 5thGear but I've really started to like it over the past few years. As a car show for petrolheads it's far better than it's rival on BBC. It's also great to watch 3 talented (well except Tiff wink) drivers going hammer and tongs round a track as apposed to just driving into each other doors being "funny" week after week. I've got to hand it to Discovery they've made it a much better show than C5 not that that should be a surprise. It's just a shame people who don't have sky/virgin can't watch it.

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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LuS1fer said:
selym said:
The straights on the 2 lap race showed the Noble's strength; it devoured the other two.
Still looked like a kit car though.
........and it was fking pricey!!

R60EST

2,364 posts

182 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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BlackpoolRock said:
Used to really dislike 5thGear but I've really started to like it over the past few years. As a car show for petrolheads it's far better than it's rival on BBC. It's also great to watch 3 talented (well except Tiff wink) drivers going hammer and tongs round a track as apposed to just driving into each other doors being "funny" week after week. I've got to hand it to Discovery they've made it a much better show than C5 not that that should be a surprise. It's just a shame people who don't have sky/virgin can't watch it.
Where there's a will there's a way wink


I've just watched it on my laptop . Only about 42 mins long though as someone kindly deleted the adverts before sharing.

I echo your sentiments , series after series it just seems to be getting better.

I really enjoyed the Porsche / Nissan / Noble test . I was really hoping the Nissan would win the last event as it's the only one I could conceivably own any time soon. I've wanted one since the day they were released , I came close to ordering a new one but the waiting list was too long at the time and ever since a combination of sanity and austerity has held me back .

If certain things fall into place later this year I may at last have one of the early ones on the drive.


selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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R60EST said:
BlackpoolRock said:
Used to really dislike 5thGear but I've really started to like it over the past few years. As a car show for petrolheads it's far better than it's rival on BBC. It's also great to watch 3 talented (well except Tiff wink) drivers going hammer and tongs round a track as apposed to just driving into each other doors being "funny" week after week. I've got to hand it to Discovery they've made it a much better show than C5 not that that should be a surprise. It's just a shame people who don't have sky/virgin can't watch it.
Where there's a will there's a way wink


I've just watched it on my laptop . Only about 42 mins long though as someone kindly deleted the adverts before sharing.

I echo your sentiments , series after series it just seems to be getting better.

I really enjoyed the Porsche / Nissan / Noble test . I was really hoping the Nissan would win the last event as it's the only one I could conceivably own any time soon. I've wanted one since the day they were released , I came close to ordering a new one but the waiting list was too long at the time and ever since a combination of sanity and austerity has held me back .

If certain things fall into place later this year I may at last have one of the early ones on the drive.
In some ways, I'm glad the GTR didn't win. One because it shows that cars are indeed moving on, in performance terms. And two, because you'd never hear the end of it from the fanbois!!!!

im

34,302 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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selym said:
R60EST said:
BlackpoolRock said:
Used to really dislike 5thGear but I've really started to like it over the past few years. As a car show for petrolheads it's far better than it's rival on BBC. It's also great to watch 3 talented (well except Tiff wink) drivers going hammer and tongs round a track as apposed to just driving into each other doors being "funny" week after week. I've got to hand it to Discovery they've made it a much better show than C5 not that that should be a surprise. It's just a shame people who don't have sky/virgin can't watch it.
Where there's a will there's a way wink


I've just watched it on my laptop . Only about 42 mins long though as someone kindly deleted the adverts before sharing.

I echo your sentiments , series after series it just seems to be getting better.

I really enjoyed the Porsche / Nissan / Noble test . I was really hoping the Nissan would win the last event as it's the only one I could conceivably own any time soon. I've wanted one since the day they were released , I came close to ordering a new one but the waiting list was too long at the time and ever since a combination of sanity and austerity has held me back .

If certain things fall into place later this year I may at last have one of the early ones on the drive.
In some ways, I'm glad the GTR didn't win. One because it shows that cars are indeed moving on, in performance terms. And two, because you'd never hear the end of it from the fanbois!!!!
I could agree with that if it wasn't a <yawn> Porsche <yawn> that had moved the game on a bit.

Big E 118

2,410 posts

169 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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BlackpoolRock said:
Used to really dislike 5thGear but I've really started to like it over the past few years. As a car show for petrolheads it's far better than it's rival on BBC. It's also great to watch 3 talented (well except Tiff wink) drivers going hammer and tongs round a track as apposed to just driving into each other doors being "funny" week after week. I've got to hand it to Discovery they've made it a much better show than C5 not that that should be a surprise. It's just a shame people who don't have sky/virgin can't watch it.
Both the head to head challenges GTR/Porsche/Noble and the 370Z/Mini showed cars really being pushed to the limit and I really enjoyed them. Plato looked like he was only just hanging on in that Mini, some really fantastic driving.




LuS1fer

41,132 posts

245 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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selym said:
LuS1fer said:
selym said:
The straights on the 2 lap race showed the Noble's strength; it devoured the other two.
Still looked like a kit car though.
........and it was fking pricey!!
Yes, when it came to choosing at the end, none seemed to mention that the Nissan was nearly half the price of the Porsche...for which a boggers 911 could only be bought - and the Noble was the small matter of £200k so both not a competitor and, in 95% of driving, outclassed. They might also have mentioned that for the price of the Noble, you could have BOTH the other cars.

FredericRobinson

3,694 posts

232 months

Tuesday 25th February 2014
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Squadrone Rosso said:
The slot our GT featured in was filmed last August:-

My wife's Alfa GT V6 on Fifth Gear - YouTube
The Drayson speed record run was last summer too

y2blade

Original Poster:

56,101 posts

215 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Watching it now, Bertone Jet is....... cloud9


WANT WANT NEED

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Personally I thought the 911/GTR/Noble thing was rubbish. Completely pants.

The cars do not compete with each other. They all appeal to different buyers. No mention was made of the difference in prices.

And the ethos and design objectives of the cars are completely different anyway. At a push, you could legitimately make a story of the Porsche vs the GTR and how they look to do the same thing but at different price levels. But involving the Noble was just plain stupid.

The Noble is an analogue, low tech, hand made super car. Comparing them is idiotic.

Poor show IMO.

va1o

16,032 posts

207 months

Wednesday 26th February 2014
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Thought the Aston was quite cool but rest of it a little dull. Still it's on the whole a good show and I'll watch the rest of the series smile

Big E 118

2,410 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th February 2014
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toppstuff said:
Personally I thought the 911/GTR/Noble thing was rubbish. Completely pants.

They all appeal to different buyers. No mention was made of the difference in prices.

And the ethos and design objectives of the cars are completely different anyway.
That was the point of the test, very different cars with different strengths that end up actually very close on a race track.

It wasn't a buyers guide.



im

34,302 posts

217 months

Thursday 27th February 2014
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toppstuff said:
Personally I thought the 911/GTR/Noble thing was rubbish. Completely pants.

The cars do not compete with each other. They all appeal to different buyers. No mention was made of the difference in prices.

And the ethos and design objectives of the cars are completely different anyway. At a push, you could legitimately make a story of the Porsche vs the GTR and how they look to do the same thing but at different price levels. But involving the Noble was just plain stupid.

The Noble is an analogue, low tech, hand made super car. Comparing them is idiotic.

Poor show IMO.
I completely disagree. Thats exactly what the man-on-the-street who'll never be able to afford one of these super cars wants to see....3 of the them facing off against each other.

Yes, perhaps potential buyers might find it irrelevent but not the majority of the rest of us who want to see these things compete against one another over 1/4 mile and then again over 2 laps. Great stuff.

It's what Top Gear used to do so well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGATSb54YEQ

y2blade

Original Poster:

56,101 posts

215 months

Thursday 27th February 2014
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toppstuff said:
Personally I thought the 911/GTR/Noble thing was rubbish. Completely pants.

The cars do not compete with each other. They all appeal to different buyers. No mention was made of the difference in prices.

And the ethos and design objectives of the cars are completely different anyway. At a push, you could legitimately make a story of the Porsche vs the GTR and how they look to do the same thing but at different price levels. But involving the Noble was just plain stupid.

The Noble is an analogue, low tech, hand made super car. Comparing them is idiotic.

Poor show IMO.
Wooosh Parrot ready for deployment

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Thursday 27th February 2014
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im said:
toppstuff said:
Personally I thought the 911/GTR/Noble thing was rubbish. Completely pants.

The cars do not compete with each other. They all appeal to different buyers. No mention was made of the difference in prices.

And the ethos and design objectives of the cars are completely different anyway. At a push, you could legitimately make a story of the Porsche vs the GTR and how they look to do the same thing but at different price levels. But involving the Noble was just plain stupid.

The Noble is an analogue, low tech, hand made super car. Comparing them is idiotic.

Poor show IMO.
I completely disagree. Thats exactly what the man-on-the-street who'll never be able to afford one of these super cars wants to see....3 of the them facing off against each other.

Yes, perhaps potential buyers might find it irrelevent but not the majority of the rest of us who want to see these things compete against one another over 1/4 mile and then again over 2 laps. Great stuff.

It's what Top Gear used to do so well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGATSb54YEQ
I completely disagree with your complete disagreement. wink

It was stupid.

In the next episode, using this line of thinking, they will compare a Volvo to a Range Rover to a KTM X bow and try to decide which is best. Stupid.

Given that they had all three cars, it would have been much better to have a piece comparing the Porsche to the GTR and figuring out if one was worth 2x the other - a very legitimate test - and then have a separate drive of the Noble.

Not one person on the planet considering a GTR is going to think "oh, maybe I should get a Noble instead". They may have well tested my John Deere lawnmower and compared it to the Porsche for all the value and interest it offered.

Silly programme pandering to 11 year olds.