Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: Ch5 9pm

Can't Pay? We'll Take It Away!: Ch5 9pm

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Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Wednesday 18th November 2015
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Didn't the 2 days turn into 2 weeks in the end?

And it did sound like he had been around the loop a few times already, given he knew exactly what the situation was with the kid & that he was fine to be moved I'm sure he'd had the same excuse raised lots of times.

I suspect there was a lot more to it than just the sob story.

Tyre Tread

10,535 posts

217 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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The screen notes at the end said they were rehoused two weeks later so it wouldn't have just been the two days and if they hadn't been evicted they would have just stayed in the house indefinitely

There are always 3 sides to every story.

98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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paulw123 said:
I don't understand how you can just live rent free in a property and when you get evicted just leave without any charge, its theft plain and simple
Its worse than that. They can smash up a place, and walk off with your belongings and its not treated as theft.

I have a few rented properties and one of mine recently went bad. On eviction day they took all the white goods with them, and all I got in return was a report from the EA telling me what was missing.

I was actually sat outside in my car watching then load my belongings into a truck. The EA told me that I could not approach them or the house until the check out was done, or could mean the loss of my deposit.

Imagine if you hired a car, didn't pay for it. Then while it was being recovered by the bailiffs you kicked all the panels in and removed the wheels. You would think the police might get involved.

98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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surveyor said:
Charlie1986 said:
They were very professional in how they dealt wth it.

But I've realised watching this its always somebody's else fault to why they can't pay or move out.
On this one I'm with the Tenant. Landlord is a tt.

I can't imagine what that family has been through and what it does to a family.

Not to give them 2 days is ridiculous. I'm not surprised his face was masked.

I really don't think Landlords should be able to use this High Court route for evictions, or they should at least have to give them a fixed date, not just turn up after the Housing Office has given them the County Court route advice that notice will be given.
before they get to the High Court they will have had:

1. A formal a notice to quit, then
2. A possession order from the courts.

Both of those will have had fixed dates to leave which were ignored by the Tenant.

The Landlord then has to get a warrant for eviction, so why should they not get it as soon as is possible? By this time you could easily be looking at 9 months, so why do they need another 2 days rent free living at someone else's expense.


surveyor

17,843 posts

185 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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98elise said:
surveyor said:
Charlie1986 said:
They were very professional in how they dealt wth it.

But I've realised watching this its always somebody's else fault to why they can't pay or move out.
On this one I'm with the Tenant. Landlord is a tt.

I can't imagine what that family has been through and what it does to a family.

Not to give them 2 days is ridiculous. I'm not surprised his face was masked.

I really don't think Landlords should be able to use this High Court route for evictions, or they should at least have to give them a fixed date, not just turn up after the Housing Office has given them the County Court route advice that notice will be given.
before they get to the High Court they will have had:

1. A formal a notice to quit, then
2. A possession order from the courts.

Both of those will have had fixed dates to leave which were ignored by the Tenant.

The Landlord then has to get a warrant for eviction, so why should they not get it as soon as is possible? By this time you could easily be looking at 9 months, so why do they need another 2 days rent free living at someone else's expense.
Because they will have been told that they wil get a date from the county court and that they are not treated as homeless until they get that date. I have no objection in principle to the system and shorter timescales, but I don't think it's acceptable to be able to turn up with absolutely no notice to someone's home and change the locks.





Charlie1986

2,017 posts

136 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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surveyor said:
Because they will have been told that they wil get a date from the county court and that they are not treated as homeless until they get that date. I have no objection in principle to the system and shorter timescales, but I don't think it's acceptable to be able to turn up with absolutely no notice to someone's home and change the locks.
With a kid on life support and constant care that's where this story went wrong.

Laurel Green

30,781 posts

233 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Jonesy23 said:
Didn't the 2 days turn into 2 weeks in the end?

And it did sound like he had been around the loop a few times already, given he knew exactly what the situation was with the kid & that he was fine to be moved I'm sure he'd had the same excuse raised lots of times.

I suspect there was a lot more to it than just the sob story.
Yep, was mentioned at the end of the programme which I hadn't seen at the time of my above post.



Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Hmm, I missed the very start, but the first couple bad the feel of chancers to me, with their attitude. They seemed to be very comfortable, one would think if their 'home' was that important, they'd do/sell anything to keep it.
The second couple I had more sympathy for, they seemed more genuine. Done over by the daughter or the house-owner.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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surveyor said:
98elise said:
surveyor said:
Charlie1986 said:
They were very professional in how they dealt wth it.

But I've realised watching this its always somebody's else fault to why they can't pay or move out.
On this one I'm with the Tenant. Landlord is a tt.

I can't imagine what that family has been through and what it does to a family.

Not to give them 2 days is ridiculous. I'm not surprised his face was masked.

I really don't think Landlords should be able to use this High Court route for evictions, or they should at least have to give them a fixed date, not just turn up after the Housing Office has given them the County Court route advice that notice will be given.
before they get to the High Court they will have had:

1. A formal a notice to quit, then
2. A possession order from the courts.

Both of those will have had fixed dates to leave which were ignored by the Tenant.

The Landlord then has to get a warrant for eviction, so why should they not get it as soon as is possible? By this time you could easily be looking at 9 months, so why do they need another 2 days rent free living at someone else's expense.
Because they will have been told that they wil get a date from the county court and that they are not treated as homeless until they get that date. I have no objection in principle to the system and shorter timescales, but I don't think it's acceptable to be able to turn up with absolutely no notice to someone's home and change the locks.
This is what's wrong with the system. The council won't deal with anyone until they've been evicted.

What annoys though me is that a lot (not all) of these people are playing the game. They go to the council and ask for a property & the council tell them they can go on a very long waiting list. They'll then move into private rented, claim Housing Benefit but not pay the Landlord. Landlord then has to go through the court system to evict. Tenant then rocks up at the council saying they've been evicted & the council then provide emergency accommodation & a boost up the list. Mum gets a new place to live (no Dad, natch) and the kids have Ipads and PS4 in the bedroom. Landlord is left out of pocket & normally also has to repair a trashed property. If the council paid HB direct, this situation would be a lot better.

A mate of mine is a LL like me, and will happily take anyone to court for damages & lost rent if they do this to him. He knows he won't get his money back (or maybe at £1 per week) but he says for him it's the satisfaction that in 4 years time if they want to buy car insurance, get a loan, move into private rented, get a job where you need a clean financial record then they'll struggle as they'll have CCJ's etc.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Anyone watch this tonight? Anyone see the old guy with the MG drink from the carton of milk?

Legacywr

Original Poster:

12,147 posts

189 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Funkycoldribena said:
Anyone watch this tonight? Anyone see the old guy with the MG drink from the carton of milk?
That's what the wronguns are like!

Laurel Green

30,781 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Next week's looks like there might be fun-and-games.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Legacywr said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Anyone watch this tonight? Anyone see the old guy with the MG drink from the carton of milk?
That's what the wronguns are like!
It was more the contents that you could see through the plastic as he took a big swig...

oobster

7,100 posts

212 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Funkycoldribena said:
Anyone watch this tonight? Anyone see the old guy with the MG drink from the carton of milk?
Just watched it ok Sky+ - the milk was all lumpy/dark at the bottom of the carton! Bleurgh

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

124 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Classy behaviour by these 3.14-keys. rolleyes

baldy1926

2,136 posts

201 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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delightful kids

MoelyCrio

2,457 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Is there anything you can do when kids act like that? Sur3ly if you're being attacked with stones you can restrain them. I guess its more trouble than its worth.

Utter scum. Scared of s - yep, scared of catching something of the filthy gits.

gtidriver

3,350 posts

188 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Why didn't the police nick the kids.

C. Grimsley

1,364 posts

196 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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gtidriver said:
Why didn't the police nick the kids.
Too young, what can they do?

Unbelievable behaviour

Carl

KingNothing

3,169 posts

154 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2015
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Never be a guarantor for anyone, ever, lol.