Police Interceptors tonight

[Jandywa]

Anything to say?

"you're a big chap"

Seemed like your average traffic policeman to me, certainly acted in a similar way to the one that pulled me over.

[ToothbrushMan]

Copman was on a power trip.he may have been in a rush but got his panties twisted up just because he l was impeded by the volvo .volvo man behaved superbly and the way he dealt with copmans verbal onslaught with plenty of "thats fine","ok",:fair enough" etc in a deservedly matter of fact way was class.i can imagine pc jim was miffed volvo man didnt seem to get het up one iota.surely a copper on a mission must use the blues and twos given the speeds.look how fast he went past the volvo.i hope volvo man goes to court and contests the careless driving

Edited by ToothbrushMan on Tuesday 25th February 19:37

[carinaman]

'Frontline Elite'? 'Policing with pride'?



'THINK!'

[340600]

ToothbrushMan said:

volvo man behaved superbly and the way he dealt with copmans verbal onslaught with plenty of "thats fine","ok",:fair enough" etc in a deservedly matter of fact way was class

If cutting in front of an overtaking vehicle on a two-lane slip road and making an obscene gesture is now classed as "acting superbly" I despair, I really do.

ToothbrushMan said:

surely a copper on a mission must use the blues and twos given the speeds.

Nope.

[GTIR]

Indeed. There's lots of exemptions.

However, part of his training must enforce the fact he's got to be extra vigilant and expect people to do silly things, which he totally failed to do. In any case the Volvo driver was driving defensively and if he didn't do that manoeuvre, A) Cop would have been forced into the outside lane as they would have joined at the same time or
B) Volvo braked putting himself and drivers on the carriageway in danger as it would have reduced his entry speed.

I've watched it five times now and each time I think a 17yo learner would have thought it was a risky manoeuvre by plod.

[ToothbrushMan]

well im just one of the majority on here who you wont convince otherwise that the copper left it too late for the overtake.what do expect the volvo to do exactly?cop called volvo driver a bully when the bully was in a bulked out uniform

[R0G]

I watched the clip in question and the civvy driver was a prat moving across the path of another vehicle on the slip road

The other driver who happened to be a cop did exactly what I would do in that situation - move into a clear lane 2

2 lane slip - if in lane 1 of slip then stay in it and enter into lane 1 of dual
- if in lane 2 of slip then enter into lane 2 if clear or behind vehicle in lane 1 unless an overtake of the vehicle in lane 1 is possible before reaching dual then overtake and enter in any safe lane of choice

Civvy driver did not look in mirrors to see overtaking vehicle or did and decided to deliberately block them

I fail to see how any other viewpoint could have merit

[ToothbrushMan]

340600 said:

Nope.

one word answers rarely cut the mustard so if you find it in yourself to maybe expand on that slightly we may all understand your perspective (or stick a piece of dynamite in it if warrantied)

[Sensibleboy]

R0G said:

The other driver who happened to be a cop did exactly what I would do in that situation - move into a clear lane 2

So you'd go tanking down the slip road a fair bit faster than other vehicles? Leaves your option a bit limited if the outside lane isn't free for you to move into.

[340600]

ToothbrushMan said:

one word answers rarely cut the mustard so if you find it in yourself to maybe expand on that slightly we may all understand your perspective (or stick a piece of dynamite in it if warrantied)

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Having done a similar "4 week course" myself, there was plenty of slip left to complete the overtake, had the Volvo driver not cut across him. I would, and have, overtaken in similar circumstances. The fact that the PC was able to avoid a collision is testament to that.

[vonhosen]

ToothbrushMan said:

340600 said:

Nope.

one word answers rarely cut the mustard so if you find it in yourself to maybe expand on that slightly we may all understand your perspective (or stick a piece of dynamite in it if warrantied)

There is no requirement to use blue lights & two tones when availing yourself of exemptions. They are merely a tool in the box that you may or may not use to assist you dependent on circumstances.

[R0G]

Sensibleboy said:

So you'd go tanking down the slip road a fair bit faster than other vehicles? Leaves your option a bit limited if the outside lane isn't free for you to move into.

If the overtake is on and not be entering the main dual etc as anyone else and causing conflict = yes
Would good obs and planning be needed = yes

Have you passed an advanced test?

[Scuffers]

vonhosen said:

ToothbrushMan said:

340600 said:

Nope.

one word answers rarely cut the mustard so if you find it in yourself to maybe expand on that slightly we may all understand your perspective (or stick a piece of dynamite in it if warrantied)

There is no requirement to use blue lights & two tones when availing yourself of exemptions. They are merely a tool in the box that you may or may not use to assist you dependent on circumstances.

Not really the point though...

If your going to make marginal calls, announcing your presence would reduce the risk no end

To pull a move like that for no good reason is taking an unessasary risk, had the road being joined had more traffic in it, the outcome could have been very different.

If a mop had done that maneuver, i would expect him to be booked for it, it was ill judged, and way too late.

[magnum555]

R0G said:

I watched the clip in question and the civvy driver was a prat moving across the path of another vehicle on the slip road

The other driver who happened to be a cop did exactly what I would do in that situation - move into a clear lane 2

2 lane slip - if in lane 1 of slip then stay in it and enter into lane 1 of dual
- if in lane 2 of slip then enter into lane 2 if clear or behind vehicle in lane 1 unless an overtake of the vehicle in lane 1 is possible before reaching dual then overtake and enter in any safe lane of choice

Civvy driver did not look in mirrors to see overtaking vehicle or did and decided to deliberately block them

I fail to see how any other viewpoint could have merit

Watch the video again. It was a two lane slip road that turned into one lane, if the volvo driver stayed in the left hand lane he would have had to brake hard or go onto the verge as he could not have joined the motorway due to the 5 series blocking him. In this instance the officer was at fault.

[ruff'n'smov]

R0G said:

I watched the clip in question and the civvy driver was a prat moving across the path of another vehicle on the slip road

The other driver who happened to be a cop did exactly what I would do in that situation - move into a clear lane 2

2 lane slip - if in lane 1 of slip then stay in it and enter into lane 1 of dual
- if in lane 2 of slip then enter into lane 2 if clear or behind vehicle in lane 1 unless an overtake of the vehicle in lane 1 is possible before reaching dual then overtake and enter in any safe lane of choice

Civvy driver did not look in mirrors to see overtaking vehicle or did and decided to deliberately block them

I fail to see how any other viewpoint could have merit

The chivvy acted correctly in my opinion, covered the outside lane on the slip road, to block the tt in the BMW from blocking him off the Entry, as he was a chivvy and not the Worlds best drivers .....well think they are anyway.

If you give someone cause to block you and shake his coffee beans at you then you have by default pissed someone off.

Copper was a dick, as for the knob waiting for the young lad what a waste of money and resource. Lincs police yokels

[Sensibleboy]

R0G said:

Sensibleboy said:

So you'd go tanking down the slip road a fair bit faster than other vehicles? Leaves your option a bit limited if the outside lane isn't free for you to move into.

If the overtake is on and not be entering the main dual etc as anyone else and causing conflict = yes
Would good obs and planning be needed = yes

Have you passed an advanced test?

A truly advanced driver wouldn't even bother overtaking in such a situation because he would consider how other drivers could perceive his actions and potentially react.

[carinaman]

Little Lofty said:

I think Mr policeman should issue himself a Section 59

[magnum555]

Sensibleboy said:

R0G said:

Sensibleboy said:

So you'd go tanking down the slip road a fair bit faster than other vehicles? Leaves your option a bit limited if the outside lane isn't free for you to move into.

If the overtake is on and not be entering the main dual etc as anyone else and causing conflict = yes
Would good obs and planning be needed = yes

Have you passed an advanced test?

A truly advanced driver wouldn't even bother overtaking in such a situation because he would consider how other drivers could perceive his actions and potentially react.

Yeah exactly it wasn't the right situation to overtake, put it this way if somebody overtook an officer and blocked him from joining the motorway he would get pulled.

[WinstonWolf]

R0G said:

Sensibleboy said:

So you'd go tanking down the slip road a fair bit faster than other vehicles? Leaves your option a bit limited if the outside lane isn't free for you to move into.

If the overtake is on and not be entering the main dual etc as anyone else and causing conflict = yes
Would good obs and planning be needed = yes

Have you passed an advanced test?

I have, the police driver put both drivers in a position of increased risk due to poor planning and observation. There was a far better overtake to be had once both vehicles had joined the DC.

[rambo19]

Poor driving from the copper, IMO.