Porn: What's the Harm?

[Jim the Sunderer]

BBC in latest biased bashing of legitimate media.

Comes across as a straight Peadogeddon, the starry-eyed, witch-hat wearing prudish presenter shows a bit too much faux shock.

She also doesn't know the difference between a vagina and a vulva.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b040n2ph/Porn_Whats_...

[MG0o]

Its BBC 3 so I didn't bother to watch it,all the documentary progs on 3 are rubbish.

[lexusboy]

MG0o said:

Its BBC 3 so I didn't bother to watch it,all the documentary progs on 3 are rubbish.

The 2 Death Row documentaries I watched recently on BBC3 were very insightful and thought provoking bits of telly

[S. Gonzales Esq.]

MG0o said:

Its BBC 3 so I didn't bother to watch it,all the documentary progs on 3 are rubbish.

'Our War' (video diaries from soldiers in Afghanistan) won a BAFTA in 2012, and was definitely not rubbish.

[Derek Smith]

The arguments over the effects of ease of access to pornographic material are complex and open to argument, but there seems to be little doubt that early exposure to hard-core porn can have a major influence in attitudes to women that is not, to say the least, helpful.

Mind you, that's not to suggest that a prudish attitude towards sex and nudity has a positive effect on young minds either.

BBC3 and BBC4 are both revelations as to what great TV can be at times. I get Radio Times and look through the BBC listings and must mark out a dozen or more programmes to record each week. It is a tragedy that 3 is being closed.

[HOGEPH]

What's the harm?

Wrist strain, hairy palms, blindness, laundry bills, the list is endless.

[NBTBRV8]

HOGEPH said:

What's the harm?

Wrist strain, hairy palms, blindness, laundry bills, the list is endless.

It has been shown to desensitise or change your perspective as to what is sex, a bit like a drug habit where you have to keep on ramping up the strength to get the same hit.

[andymc]

who said that?

[Mastodon2]

NBTBRV8 said:

It has been shown to desensitise or change your perspective as to what is sex, a bit like a drug habit where you have to keep on ramping up the strength to get the same hit.

The hand-wringing "think of the children" brigade love to trot this stuff out. No doubt for some it is damaging, some get addicted, some have their views of women and sex warped, but you make it sound like a class A drug addiction. When I was young, I remember finding jazz mags in bushes at the park - hardcore and softcore alike, park jazz you might call it. The way you're going on, it would have been like finding bags of heroin and needles.

[irocfan]

Mastodon2 said:

The hand-wringing "think of the children" brigade love to trot this stuff out.

Isn't that what jimmy savile did?

[Quickmoose]

Mastodon2 said:

The hand-wringing "think of the children" brigade love to trot this stuff out. No doubt for some it is damaging, some get addicted, some have their views of women and sex warped, but you make it sound like a class A drug addiction. When I was young, I remember finding jazz mags in bushes at the park - hardcore and softcore alike, park jazz you might call it. The way you're going on, it would have been like finding bags of heroin and needles.

'and some don't get affected at all"...the question is, are the majority of our children becoming accustomed to behaviours that aren't condusive to a healthy normal respectful relationship...whatever that is....I doubt any of the publications you found had anything like what is available online....the truth IMO is somewhere between your view and that of the 'hand wringers'

[irocfan]

Quickmoose said:

Mastodon2 said:

The hand-wringing "think of the children" brigade love to trot this stuff out. No doubt for some it is damaging, some get addicted, some have their views of women and sex warped, but you make it sound like a class A drug addiction. When I was young, I remember finding jazz mags in bushes at the park - hardcore and soft-core alike, park jazz you might call it. The way you're going on, it would have been like finding bags of heroin and needles.

'and some don't get affected at all"...the question is, are the majority of our children becoming accustomed to behaviours that aren't conducive to a healthy normal respectful relationship...whatever that is....I doubt any of the publications you found had anything like what is available online....the truth IMO is somewhere between your view and that of the 'hand wringers'

putting my serious hat on for a moment - you could argue that the explosion in 'sexually explicit' music has a greater effect than the occasional bit of porn

[Engineer1]

Exposure to porn can cause body issues, not everyone has Porn star looks or porn star genitalia, saying that the amateur stuff can give you a better idea of what normal looks like.

[Quickmoose]

irocfan said:

putting my serious hat on for a moment - you could argue that the explosion in 'sexually explicit' music has a greater effect than the occasional bit of porn

..and music videos, yeah I agree...

[NBTBRV8]

Mastodon2 said:

The hand-wringing "think of the children" brigade love to trot this stuff out. No doubt for some it is damaging, some get addicted, some have their views of women and sex warped, but you make it sound like a class A drug addiction. When I was young, I remember finding jazz mags in bushes at the park - hardcore and softcore alike, park jazz you might call it. The way you're going on, it would have been like finding bags of heroin and needles.

I am not necessarily pushing this theory, it is just what is being advocated. Obviously porn affects people in different ways. Heavily users "complain" that they have to do more "extreme things" to get the same level of arousal and they view women differently. I'm talking about people who watch it daily and have a real addiction.

http://www.socioaffectiveneuroscipsychol.net/index...

Just because it hasn't affected you in this way, it doesn't mean that it doesn't other people.

[Mastodon2]

Quickmoose said:

'and some don't get affected at all"...the question is, are the majority of our children becoming accustomed to behaviours that aren't condusive to a healthy normal respectful relationship...whatever that is....I doubt any of the publications you found had anything like what is available online....the truth IMO is somewhere between your view and that of the 'hand wringers'

I'm mid-twenties and red-blooded enough to know the usual standard of what is available online. The first hardcore I saw was at the age of about 10, a French title called "Le Parfum de Mathilde" that one of my mates pinched off his dad and passed about for the lols. I don't think it did me any particular harm, though I'm not blind to the fact that for some, porn is damaging. I just don't subscribe to the idea that it turns anyone who sees it into a woman-abusing, sex crazed deviant.

[entropy]

There was a BBC3 doc recently on escorts/prostitutes a few weeks ago. They interviewed a couple of blokes who said they turned to escorts because they wanted sex to be like porn films - which I assumed to be the vanilla variety which isn't necessarily a true depiction of sex.

[mybrainhurts]

The Wages Of Sin Is Death....


But you'll go blind first, so not all bad.

[Siscar]

Porn these days seems to involve skanky looking people doing unlikely looking things to each other and gaining no obvious pleasure from doing it.

Quite bizarre, it's beyond me what the appeal is.

[Quickmoose]

Mastodon2 said:

I'm mid-twenties and red-blooded enough to know the usual standard of what is available online. The first hardcore I saw was at the age of about 10, a French title called "Le Parfum de Mathilde" that one of my mates pinched off his dad and passed about for the lols. I don't think it did me any particular harm, though I'm not blind to the fact that for some, porn is damaging. I just don't subscribe to the idea that it turns anyone who sees it into a woman-abusing, sex crazed deviant.

Interesting I'm near double your age and have noticed a greater change in what is available, what went on as kids and what goes on now with kids, when you were 10 online was available, when I was 10, it was more likely to be the clothing catalogues ya mum got
I don't subscribe to the idea that current online stuff turns everyone into a deviant either... but there can be no doubt that it opens up young minds to things they never would have considerd before, some of this will be healthy allowing us/them to explore ideas without embarassment whilst some of this will twist and corrupt their views on what is acceptable and/or healthy.