Complicated plot
Discussion
king Darko. Purity14 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Which film has the most complicated plot of all? Mainstream film that is, excluding incomprehensible arty films.
Lock stock and two smoking barrels must be close to the top.
The Tree Of Life with Brad Pitt springs to mind; but does that come under arty?Lock stock and two smoking barrels must be close to the top.
)P-Jay said:
Pulp Fiction is complicated to watch, but only because of the non-linier nature of it, if you watch it in the correct order it's reasonably straight forward.
I have watched PF at least 50 times (long story, it wasn't because I found it complicated), but I have never thought to watch it in the correct order. May have to dig out the DVD and try it.Another vote for Cloud Atlas. I was actually annoyed at Hanks for doing that film as I only bothered watching it because he was in it.
JimboM3 said:
Must try to do one of those for Layer cake.redtwin said:
I have watched PF at least 50 times (long story, it wasn't because I found it complicated), but I have never thought to watch it in the correct order. May have to dig out the DVD and try it.
Another vote for Cloud Atlas. I was actually annoyed at Hanks for doing that film as I only bothered watching it because he was in it.
There's a version online that someone has spliced together in the chronological order. It's quite enlightening - for example it's pretty cleat that Vincent dies and Butch escapes largely because after the diner scene Jules retires so is there to back up Vincent when he's waiting in Butches apartment. Another vote for Cloud Atlas. I was actually annoyed at Hanks for doing that film as I only bothered watching it because he was in it.
Such a brilliant film, it's a real shame he didn't make the 'Vega brothers' film.
I suppose that films that play with chronological order might be confusing, you need a good memory.
I think the main culprits are films that have at their centre either psychosis/alternate realities (Jacob's Ladder, Vanilla Sky) or time travel (any of the ones mentioned above).
Film noir can be labyrinthine but make sense.
Conspiracy also.
I think the main culprits are films that have at their centre either psychosis/alternate realities (Jacob's Ladder, Vanilla Sky) or time travel (any of the ones mentioned above).
Film noir can be labyrinthine but make sense.
Conspiracy also.
Sir Snaz said:
Jacobs Ladder anyone?
That's another one. Good call. Although I kind of figured it out at that point when what's her face is getting humped. Actually on a similar vibe. Angel Heart.
The thing I'd like to add is not that I find alot of these films complicated to follow but more I'm happy to sit back and let it all unfold at its own pace. I find if I'm trying to guess who done what then chances are I'm probably going to be bored come the end of the film.
Halb said:
I think 'confusing' and 'complicated' are different.
A lot of films are confusing to poor editing.
I recall finding Naked Lunch confusing, and therefore frustrating and ultimately disappointing.
A film with a good complex story is brilliant, and rewarding.
Big Sleep = complex
Naked Lunch = confusing
I'd agree with that. Something like Primer is complex but Mulholland Drive is confusing. A lot of films are confusing to poor editing.
I recall finding Naked Lunch confusing, and therefore frustrating and ultimately disappointing.
A film with a good complex story is brilliant, and rewarding.
Big Sleep = complex
Naked Lunch = confusing
It's more like the choice is to withhold information or obfuscate it's meaning - no to deride confusing films though, I love them so long as they have an 'answer'
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