For The Love of Cars

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Derek Smith

45,660 posts

248 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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aeropilot said:
Derek Smith said:
Three City of London Triumph 500 motorcycles were used in the run along the Commercial Road. Two broke down (unaccustomed to speed) and the other was the lead vehicle.
I think you'll find all the bikes were BMW's.

No Plod was using old Trumpet 500's in the 1980's or indeed any old Triumphs of any description by then (the Met had stopped using 500 Speed Twins back in the early 60's!!!)
The City retained its Triumphs for some considerable time. The first BMW was commandeered by the sergeant and he road it along the Embankment every morning to put some miles on it.

The traffic unit was in those days made up of those types who thought that automatic advance and retard was a step backwards, and as for synchromesh! It allowed just anyone to change gear.

One motorcyclist said that he'd never ride a bike where you couldn't spit through the frame. Others nodded, sagely, just as if it was lifestyle advice.



rohrl

8,737 posts

145 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I could have lived without the driver training, which I've seen umpteen times on other programmes, the Ace Cafe bit and most of the Liver Run section. Then they could have showed some of what they did to the car.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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rohrl said:
I could have lived without the driver training, which I've seen umpteen times on other programmes, the Ace Cafe bit and most of the Liver Run section. Then they could have showed some of what they did to the car.
I think what this thread is telling us/them is they need to run 2 programs.
For the love of cars: A Social history program looking into the affect of certain cars on our society
For the love of cars - The Restoration: A documentary on the process involved with restoring the cars featured in "For the love of cars".

gareth_r

5,728 posts

237 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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aeropilot said:
gareth_r said:
On the subject of traffic cars in general, I was under the impression that, back then, the police preferred manual over automatic, and were purchasing "police (poverty) spec" cars (in white) without stuff like electric windows, leather, or even alloy wheels. (Wasn't there a story of one force ordering Sierra XR4s with steel wheels then having to switch to alloys when, after a few crashes, it was found that the steelies could cause brake fade?)

More recently, of course, they switched to buying civilian specification cars in silver to improve the resale value, and automatics because manuals were no longer available.
Probably a lot of county Plod were still buying manuals back then 1980's for traffic use, but the Met. Police in London (for obvious reasons) converted over to an all automatic fleet for its traffic/area cars back in the mid 1960's with the introduction of the Jag 3.4S.

I believe a lot of the current Plod fleets are not civilian spec at all, and are all special Police spec, certainly the Volvos and BMW 5 series cars are police spec (whether silver or otherwise)
Interesting. I once owned a Rover P6 V8 auto, and it was an awful slow-witted power-sapping gearbox in comparison to the later electronically-controlled with TC-lockup Aisins in my early 90s Toyotas.

gareth_r

5,728 posts

237 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Derek Smith said:
The City retained its Triumphs for some considerable time...
They did, didn't they. The 500 went out of production in 1973. I guess they led a pretty quiet life in a small area with no high-speed roads?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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rohrl said:
I could have lived without the driver training, which I've seen umpteen times on other programmes, the Ace Cafe bit and most of the Liver Run section. Then they could have showed some of what they did to the car.
Caught a few of these over the last series and this.

I can suck most car things up and take the good and leave the bad but I have not even tried to that with this, there would not be enough left for a 10 minute short.

It really does not help that the presenter looks to be trying so hard to make us believe that he loves his cars. He might think he does, he might even do so, but rarely have I seen any outward display of it and as for emotion. Well the bypass seems to have worked vey well...


e21Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Had half hour to kill so watched on catch-up.

Poor.

Pickled

2,051 posts

143 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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aeropilot said:
iSore said:
There are plenty of manual 3500 Plods around. A customer of ours had one back in the late eighties, a 1980 V plate one - CYW479V iirc. It had Minilite alloys, different brakes and was a special build car based on a 2300 with basic trim and no Nivomat rear suspension.
That will be an ex-Met Police one then.
I had a facelift ex Flying Squad SD1, uprated brakes and suspension, no power steering but irrc still had the PAS rack (was no fun parking!) and basic spec interior, finished in off white/light beige with dark brown interior - Lovely biggrin until it expired spectacularly outside Aborfield REME college...

150bhp

904 posts

172 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Fast forwarded most of it, there was a lot of BS in this one. I still don't understand what Philip Glenister adds to the show, he clearly isn't a car guy, his and Ants chemistry is zero and, well, he gets on my tits 😜

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Crossflow Kid said:
ecsrobin said:
wolfracesonic said:
Crossflow Kid said:
What the heck. Seems like as good a thread as any to share this......;)
Go on then, enlighten us............
Looks like an airshow or families day judging by the variety of aircraft and barriers to the right.
Have a gold star.
But what airfield??

I can see its a Griffin and a tornado and obviously your chinook, is it shawbury?

Flip Martian

19,675 posts

190 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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150bhp said:
Fast forwarded most of it, there was a lot of BS in this one. I still don't understand what Philip Glenister adds to the show, he clearly isn't a car guy, his and Ants chemistry is zero and, well, he gets on my tits ??
Fair enough you don't like it but where do you get the "his and Ant's chemistry is zero" from? They clearly get on. Ant was even tweeting yesterday about going to Phil's house for sunday lunch.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Flip Martian said:
Fair enough you don't like it but where do you get the "his and Ant's chemistry is zero" from? They clearly get on. Ant was even tweeting yesterday about going to Phil's house for sunday lunch.
Being mates does not always translate to in screen chemistry.


Flip Martian

19,675 posts

190 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Scuffers said:
Being mates does not always translate to in screen chemistry.
No it doesn't - but it helps. They they seem to make a decent partnership to me. There's more of Ant than Phil and that's how it should be I think. It was really resto-lite yesterday though - 8 weeks spent on the body apparently and we saw nothing of it. Or much else. Too much flim flam.

Edited by Flip Martian on Tuesday 28th April 11:45

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Crossflow Kid said:
iSore said:
I thought the programme was a bit crap tonight. Droning on about Daimler Darts, some bloke who rode a motorbike like a prat back in 1879 and virtually nothing about how they rebuilt the SD1.
laugh
Couldn't agree more. But wanted the car. Had a lot of fun in a V8 SD1 back in the '80s. Most of it sideways...

HARTLEYHARE1

588 posts

129 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Very poor this week. Nice job in the end result but not enough about the actual car and not seen anything close to season one yet.

Beyond Rational

3,524 posts

215 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Did they massively run out of time with the build, resulting in no driving of the actual car and the need to pad the show out with something they could film after?

Not sure how good it is for the auction if you can't properly catalogue the item for sale.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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ecsrobin said:
Crossflow Kid said:
ecsrobin said:
wolfracesonic said:
Crossflow Kid said:
What the heck. Seems like as good a thread as any to share this......;)
Go on then, enlighten us............
Looks like an airshow or families day judging by the variety of aircraft and barriers to the right.
Have a gold star.
But what airfield??

I can see its a Griffin and a tornado and obviously your chinook, is it shawbury?
Nope! Nearer the SD1's home turf.

Rogue86

2,008 posts

145 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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Looks a bit like Scampton?

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Still no. (Is this turning in to Where Was I? wink )

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Crossflow Kid said:
Nope! Nearer the SD1's home turf.
Cosford? Although I don't think it is.