For The Love of Cars

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JonRB

74,549 posts

272 months

Thursday 30th April 2015
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rubystone said:
Scuffers said:
blimey! that's tragic!

And what rover engines Stag's? (The stag's V8 is nothing to do with the Rover V8, if it has been, the car would have been a huge hit).
The Rover engine was a popular modification for Stag owners who tired of replacing their engines after every trip out.
Indeed. Dropping a Rover V8 in was a very popular conversion. Ironically, Stags with their original engines are now worth more because of originality, but at the time it made a lot of sense.

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

125 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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tonights looks interesting-features the golf gti mk1 and a brace of other hot hatches from the 80s.......

it is touching when you see these guys get a bit choked up when their cars leave then again when theyve been restored...... you can understand it i suppose

Derek Smith

45,659 posts

248 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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JonRB said:
Indeed. Dropping a Rover V8 in was a very popular conversion. Ironically, Stags with their original engines are now worth more because of originality, but at the time it made a lot of sense.
I had a number of Stag owners buy my book on the RV8 and at one time I was considering an additional section to cover fitting it to other cars. However, I was told by a member of the Stag Owners' Club that RV8-engined Stags were looked down on.

I went to a classic car show and met a chap displaying an RV8-engined Stag. It was immaculate without being over-the-top. I was seriously considering one.

He'd bought my book and we got chatting. He said that he'd gone in for concours events but was treated with disdain because of the foreign engine. He said that on runs with other SOC members, the RV8 ones habitually were the more reliable. He spoke of one event where five cars set out and only three arrived at the destination: two RV8-engined ones, one of which was towing a Triumph V8 engined one. He enjoyed telling that one.

He reckoned that he was considering replacing the RV8, which was struggling with a worn camshaft, with the original engine now that most of the problems were 'solved', mainly overheating evidently. He said a larger and more efficient radiator with fans was the best option, but there were a couple of engine rebuild companies that guaranteed their products.

But the only reason for reverting was to enter councours events with a chance of winning.






JonRB

74,549 posts

272 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Derek Smith said:
I had a number of Stag owners buy my book on the RV8 and at one time I was considering an additional section to cover fitting it to other cars. However, I was told by a member of the Stag Owners' Club that RV8-engined Stags were looked down on.

I went to a classic car show and met a chap displaying an RV8-engined Stag. It was immaculate without being over-the-top. I was seriously considering one.

He'd bought my book and we got chatting. He said that he'd gone in for concours events but was treated with disdain because of the foreign engine. He said that on runs with other SOC members, the RV8 ones habitually were the more reliable. He spoke of one event where five cars set out and only three arrived at the destination: two RV8-engined ones, one of which was towing a Triumph V8 engined one. He enjoyed telling that one.

He reckoned that he was considering replacing the RV8, which was struggling with a worn camshaft, with the original engine now that most of the problems were 'solved', mainly overheating evidently. He said a larger and more efficient radiator with fans was the best option, but there were a couple of engine rebuild companies that guaranteed their products.

But the only reason for reverting was to enter councours events with a chance of winning.
Sounds like a similar story to that of the TVR "T-cars" (Tuscan, Tamora, T350 and Sagaris). The Speed6 engine got a terrible reputation and some owners went for the ubiquitous LS* engines (which are the 21st Century equivalent of the RV8). Yet now the problems of the Speed6 are thoroughly understood and sorted, and I am sure there will be a similar story on originality in the future on them.

Not knocking those that did go for the LS engine - it's a great engine.

I'm rather sad to hear your anecdote though - snobbery and intolerance are abhorrent.

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Here we go!

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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First one of these I've watched 'live' but I'm not a big fan of the particular car unfortunately. Last weeks was better given the car was from my own police force.

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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If they cut all the rust out of that car there will be precious little left.

onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Seems appropriate to post one of my favourite ever TV ad's

Brilliant attention to detail


https://youtu.be/kENnmEGodzo

Derek Smith

45,659 posts

248 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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JonRB said:
Sounds like a similar story to that of the TVR "T-cars" (Tuscan, Tamora, T350 and Sagaris). The Speed6 engine got a terrible reputation and some owners went for the ubiquitous LS* engines (which are the 21st Century equivalent of the RV8). Yet now the problems of the Speed6 are thoroughly understood and sorted, and I am sure there will be a similar story on originality in the future on them.

Not knocking those that did go for the LS engine - it's a great engine.

I'm rather sad to hear your anecdote though - snobbery and intolerance are abhorrent.
I felt the chap was the master of his own misery. I know little about concours but I do know that originality is a requirement.

I once went to an MG Car Club meeting and there was a concours event for pre-war MGs. One looked like it had just come from the showroom, with immaculate paint and interior. The engine sparkled. The judges gave the prize to one which had worn seats.

I went to a track day for a couple of LS converted Sagari. They were nicely engineered:



And the engine was nicely fitted:



but the aircon went on one car and the driver came in with a blood red face.

So still some problems to iron out I felt.


SydneyBridge

8,604 posts

158 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Finished car looks amazing and absolutely love the U2 song

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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I'm guessing around the £20,000 mark.

ETA: or maybe not... but an even better result in the end smile


Edited by poing on Sunday 3rd May 20:58

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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That's funny, Drew Pritchard is at the auction again. hehe

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Nice touch the FIL buying the car.

onyx39

11,123 posts

150 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Laurel Green said:
Nice touch the FIL buying the car.
Absolutely

SydneyBridge

8,604 posts

158 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Yes, lovely story, hope he gets to enjoy it.

e21Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Auction for TV purposes I'm guessing? Nice the old boy got it back but that was always going to happen I reckon.

Presenters still make me cringe but it was better than last weeks dross.

DrDoofenshmirtz

15,227 posts

200 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Nice ending to a great episode. Really enjoying the series so far.

e21Mark

16,205 posts

173 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Laurel Green said:
That's funny, Drew Pritchard is at the auction again. hehe
Seemed to be trying to stay hidden under his hat. smile

davegreg

1,099 posts

189 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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Nice ending, Walter seemed like a great guy too. Still far too much filler though when they could have been showing more interesting stuff to do with the resto!smile

Number 5

2,748 posts

195 months

Sunday 3rd May 2015
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The programme is making me really like Discovery's