For The Love of Cars

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DSLiverpool

14,764 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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droopsnoot said:
Not only me looking at the rear arches on that Continental R in the background then. I wondered if it was one of the Sedanca ones you see advertised in the back of Octane, but I couldn't see enough of the roof.
I think its a normal MPW Conti R just is a fetching colour and good natural lighting making it look mean! its had me perusing the adverts! If we had a Bentley indie on the Wirral I would be tempted.

AstonZagato

12,716 posts

211 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Eviltad said:
kmpowell said:
Eviltad said:
Did the S1 LandRover not get sold to Mr Kahn from Kahn Automotive?
Yes, but pop Ant-khan into google and see what pops up under the Wikipedia entry... rolleyes
What appears to be a "written by himself" self publicising Wikipedia Entry.

Am I wrong to be warming to Afzal Kahn? However much what he sells is not to my taste, is he not making a decent success of "messing about with cars"? Or is that for another thread?
Deffo another thread.

I know what you mean. I'm very sure I'm not his target market but he seems to be doing very well.

Eviltad

1,320 posts

180 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
droopsnoot said:
Not only me looking at the rear arches on that Continental R in the background then. I wondered if it was one of the Sedanca ones you see advertised in the back of Octane, but I couldn't see enough of the roof.
I think its a normal MPW Conti R just is a fetching colour and good natural lighting making it look mean! its had me perusing the adverts! If we had a Bentley indie on the Wirral I would be tempted.
Sure there was a place called Cheshire Classics (or similar), but based in Gayton or somewhere who touted themselves as Rolls Royce, Bentley & Ferrari Independents.

NomduJour

19,144 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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DSLiverpool said:
I think its a normal MPW Conti R
Looks like a Mulliner Wide/T Body, maybe Final Series. Chrome grille shell looks rubbish.

RichB

51,630 posts

285 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
Did you miss the Escort episode? You should watch it, he's a tidy fabricator. Look at the quality of the shut lines on the rebuilt front end, spot on diagonally as well as in parallel.
Indeed, the episode where he rebuilt the MG TC body pretty well from scratch was another example too. Some people clearly dislike him but from what I saw he was doing good work on the cars.

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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RichB said:
ndeed, the episode where he rebuilt the MG TC body pretty well from scratch was another example too. Some people clearly dislike him but from what I saw he was doing good work on the cars.
I think the MG TC episode was my least favourite. Whilst it's undeniably been done to a very high standard, I feel what resulted was more "continuation car" than "restoration", unless you believe in Trigger's Broom originality.

RichB

51,630 posts

285 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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JonRB said:
...what resulted was more "continuation car" than "restoration", unless you believe in Trigger's Broom originality.
I've deleted it now so can't check back. Yes he used a new ash frame and fabricated the cabin bodywork around that but I can't remember if he used the original bulkhead(firewall), chassis, engine/gearbox, running gear, cycle wings, louvered bonnet, interior fittings etc. No, I don't subscribe to the Trigger's broom school of restoration but on the other hand if a car is decrepit then it's a good thing to get it back on the road.

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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RichB said:
've deleted it now so can't check back. Yes he used a new ash frame and fabricated the cabin bodywork around that but I can't remember if he used the original bulkhead(firewall), chassis, engine/gearbox, running gear, cycle wings, louvered bonnet, interior fittings etc. No, I don't subscribe to the Trigger's broom school of restoration but on the other hand if a car is decrepit then it's a good thing to get it back on the road.
As far as I remember, the only things that were left of the original car were its grille (which was re-chromed) and its VIN. It had new body panels, a different engine (as the one that came with it was incorrect for the age of the car and not original. So they sourced a period-correct replacement), new dash, new wheels, new suspension. I don't recall if it had a new chassis or not but the changes were extremely extensive.


HTP99

22,590 posts

141 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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JonRB said:
RichB said:
've deleted it now so can't check back. Yes he used a new ash frame and fabricated the cabin bodywork around that but I can't remember if he used the original bulkhead(firewall), chassis, engine/gearbox, running gear, cycle wings, louvered bonnet, interior fittings etc. No, I don't subscribe to the Trigger's broom school of restoration but on the other hand if a car is decrepit then it's a good thing to get it back on the road.
As far as I remember, the only things that were left of the original car were its grille (which was re-chromed) and its VIN. It had new body panels, a different engine (as the one that came with it was incorrect for the age of the car and not original. So they sourced a period-correct replacement), new dash, new wheels, new suspension. I don't recall if it had a new chassis or not but the changes were extremely extensive.
They kept the original MG badge too as the mechanic (can't remember his name) made a point of mentioning that it was the original one.

I was under the assumption that the ash frame and chassis were one and the same?

PurpleTurtle

7,016 posts

145 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Eviltad said:
What appears to be a "written by himself" self publicising Wikipedia Entry.?
thumbup that did make me genuinely LOL ... those kind jump from the screen at you!

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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JonRB said:
All 6 of those cars represented the very best examples of their type with thousands of man hours spent making them so. It's hardly surprising that they made top dollar.

Things sell for what people are prepared to pay. If that prices you out of the market, then that's capitalism for you.
Do you really think that Ant restored all of them? I know for a fact he didn't restore the TC...

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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RichB said:
I enjoyed that and thought Ant came across as having a genuine interest in the cars he was working on, a decent chap and obviously a skilled engineer and craftsman.
He's certainly very good at project management and car transport....

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Scuffers said:
not what I was getting at, I believe the Stag work was done outside of Anstead's company.
Not only the Stag....

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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crosseyedlion said:
Apart from it was an extremely rare (35 produced iirc) factory RHD
I don't believe it was.

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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RichB said:
ndeed, the episode where he rebuilt the MG TC body pretty well from scratch was another example too. Some people clearly dislike him but from what I saw he was doing good work on the cars.
Except he didn't. Just goes to show what a bit of staged filming and a 45 minute drive across Herts a couple of times a month achieves eh...smoke and mirrors mate...

rubystone

11,254 posts

260 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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RichB said:
've deleted it now so can't check back. Yes he used a new ash frame and fabricated the cabin bodywork around that but I can't remember if he used the original bulkhead(firewall), chassis, engine/gearbox, running gear, cycle wings, louvered bonnet, interior fittings etc. No, I don't subscribe to the Trigger's broom school of restoration but on the other hand if a car is decrepit then it's a good thing to get it back on the road.
He cut it up with an angle grinder...and damaged the body as a result. That made it more difficult for the craftsmen who rebuilt it for him to get the work done in time. And despite being told to paint it Clipper Blue he got his colour totally wrong too. But the buyer loves it in that colour and was prepared to go up to £30k on it!

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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rubystone said:
JonRB said:
All 6 of those cars represented the very best examples of their type with thousands of man hours spent making them so. It's hardly surprising that they made top dollar.

Things sell for what people are prepared to pay. If that prices you out of the market, then that's capitalism for you.
Do you really think that Ant restored all of them? I know for a fact he didn't restore the TC...
Where in the post that you quoted did I claim that he had? confused

Or are you disputing that they have been restored to a very high standard with a great deal of labour and cost?

JonRB

74,615 posts

273 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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HTP99 said:
I was under the assumption that the ash frame and chassis were one and the same?
You could be right there. I wasn't sure if it was frame over chassis (like Morgan) or frame-only.

RichB

51,630 posts

285 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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JonRB said:
HTP99 said:
I was under the assumption that the ash frame and chassis were one and the same?
You could be right there. I wasn't sure if it was frame over chassis (like Morgan) or frame-only.
The MGTC has a metal chassis and the body is a tub that sits on it.

RichB

51,630 posts

285 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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rubystone said:
RichB said:
ndeed, the episode where he rebuilt the MG TC body pretty well from scratch was another example too. Some people clearly dislike him but from what I saw he was doing good work on the cars.
Except he didn't. Just goes to show what a bit of staged filming and a 45 minute drive across Herts a couple of times a month achieves eh...smoke and mirrors mate...
You obviously have knowledge of that particular build. I was only commenting on what I saw which was several sequences where Ant was working from raw sheet metal, cutting and shaping the sides and rear panels of the body tub.