For The Love of Cars

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Tuna

19,930 posts

283 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Scuffers said:
I'm in the WTF? camp

the bodyshell was terrible, and the 'repairs' we saw somewhat lacking (patch panels welded in then one assumes, filled over to cover the joints etc?)
I assume they will have welded the panels with the joint coming above the existing metal, then sanded back to level - you end up with a continuous bit of metal that's as good as the original, and a small seam behind it out of sight. If done well, it's going to last as long as an original shell and certainly is as mechanically strong.

As for all the 'risk' stuff, I'm sure they highlighted the owners' club comments to make it seem more risky than it was. Given the investment of time and money made, I'd imagine there was a fair amount of research into the market. The price in the auction was high, but they were essentially presenting an 'as new' car with some pretty good credentials to back it up - far better than the bodge job restorations with no providence.

Really not sure about the paint quality comments - it was never shown against a 'clean' background, so can you really reliably see how good the job was on the small screen?

No conspiracy theories here, it was a great program and they did a lovely job. Made me smile to see the finished job.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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JonRB said:
Judging by the "next time" clip, with that car being sold in the same auction, it does rather break the suspension of disbelief over the tight deadline.
Maybe all the cars are prepared in parallel and the tight deadline in question is the auction at which they ALL get sold?
It's just that for this series only the bit of the auction relevant to that episode's car is shown.

PurpleTurtle

6,940 posts

143 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Whilst the DBS isn't my favourite Aston, I thought they took a horribly coloured original car and restored it well, loved the exterior/interior combo, I didn't expect it to work but it did.

Just spent an idle half hour perusing the R S Williams website, reminding myself I must renew my Euromillions numbers!

http://www.rswilliams.co.uk/

Lost soul

8,712 posts

181 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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JonRB said:
12TS said:
Why oh why do these types of programme always have to some race against the clock element?
I agree. This always annoys me too. yes

12TS said:
There would be other auctions that they could have used and they wouldn't have had to wait that long.
I'm sure the car was completed weeks, if not months, before the auction. They would no doubt have thoroughly researched the worst-case scenario for how long a complete restoration would take, and then added in a load of contingency, and then started from there. I very much doubt there was any 'against the clock' element at all in reality.
yes

All BS to add drama , frankly I would rather a bit more in depth detail of the rebuild than drama

aeropilot

34,299 posts

226 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Lost soul said:
yes

All BS to add drama , frankly I would rather a bit more in depth detail of the rebuild than drama
That's not good television though is it....

(they don't make programmes like this for anoraks, they make them for people that know feck all about what they are watching)

Lost soul

8,712 posts

181 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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aeropilot said:
Lost soul said:
yes

All BS to add drama , frankly I would rather a bit more in depth detail of the rebuild than drama
That's not good television though is it....

(they don't make programmes like this for anoraks, they make them for people that know feck all about what they are watching)
You are right , I suppose its just the normal dumbing down effect and the great unwashed need some drama to keep them interested in it frown

and they need to dump that bloke from life on mars he is a pain in the ass

Mad March Taffy

508 posts

118 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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binned

Mod note: Some might enjoy finding out during the course of the programme. People can be odd like that.

Edited by Justayellowbadge on Monday 20th April 15:10

DrDoofenshmirtz

15,186 posts

199 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Lost soul said:
yes

All BS to add drama , frankly I would rather a bit more in depth detail of the rebuild than drama
The '...is born' series with Mark Evans is notable for ticking all the boxes as far as non-mainstream beardage goes.


Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

241 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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DrDoofenshmirtz said:
Lost soul said:
yes

All BS to add drama , frankly I would rather a bit more in depth detail of the rebuild than drama
The '...is born' series with Mark Evans is notable for ticking all the boxes as far as non-mainstream beardage goes.
Indeed.

Don't know if it's still available but I bought the box set of a dozen or so series for something stupid like 8 quid on Amazon a few years ago.

Mad March Taffy

508 posts

118 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Thought that I would save people an hour of their lives!

:-)

FourWheelDrift

88,381 posts

283 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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aeropilot said:
That's not good television though is it....

(they don't make programmes like this for anoraks, they make them for people that know feck all about what they are watching)
The people who know nothing wouldn't be watching it in the first place.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

181 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Justayellowbadge said:
DrDoofenshmirtz said:
Lost soul said:
yes

All BS to add drama , frankly I would rather a bit more in depth detail of the rebuild than drama
The '...is born' series with Mark Evans is notable for ticking all the boxes as far as non-mainstream beardage goes.
Indeed.

Don't know if it's still available but I bought the box set of a dozen or so series for something stupid like 8 quid on Amazon a few years ago.
Loved the car is born series , the E Type was a feast of nerddom smile


nicanary

9,751 posts

145 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Glenister can't drive - he makes some sort of basic error on every episode. I pity the poor cars. Does the show really need a "headliner"?

Flip Martian

19,504 posts

189 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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I like Glenister. I guess you either like his dry sense of humour and sarcasm or you don't.

h4887

278 posts

239 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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The new owner said he intended to drive it. Wonder why it's on SORN?...

Smollet

10,465 posts

189 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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h4887 said:
The new owner said he intended to drive it. Wonder why it's on SORN?...
Perhaps he has so many cars he doesn't need to use them all the time.

e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Don't dislike the premise of the program but the presenters both grate. I'd rather see the folk who do the actual restoration given some credit, as opposed the 'Ant with hammer' or 'Ant with welder' shots. Still, it was better than the MG from the last series, where the only original part remaining was the grill.

williamp

19,213 posts

272 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Scuffers said:
I'm in the WTF? camp


I 100% agree that if you're 'restoring' a car, originality is everything, chopping the box and converting it into a Vantage, then colour change, etc. means it's now a bd, all be it may be a very nice bd, but still it's not original, and this is where the money is.
Not with DB Astons. Did you know they made the DB5 in a number of colours, not just silver birch? You'd never know if you see a restoration company, or an owners club meeting. A silver birch DB5 does have a price premium on other cars. And the market for barn finds is daft, with perfectly driveable examples going for less then barn finds. So originality doesn't seem that important anymore. As long as it **could** have has those parts fitted, or modern parts can be fitted discreatly then anything goes.

davegreg

1,099 posts

188 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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DrDoofenshmirtz said:
The '...is born' series with Mark Evans is notable for ticking all the boxes as far as non-mainstream beardage goes.
Totally agree - you actually got to see the build/restoration in quite fine detail without any of the claptrap that comes with ALL the more recent shows - loved Evans as a presenter too because he was genuinely interested in the subject, as well as throwing in a bit of daft humour and banter too. Can still happily sit and watch those episodes back to back. smile

greygoose

8,225 posts

194 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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ash73 said:
Scuffers said:
it's not original, and this is where the money is.
It is for some people but thankfully not everyone.

AM owners club looked pretty awful.
It did look a bit grim.