For The Love of Cars
Discussion
snuffy said:
And they said the average prices was around £50k. So no profit to be made at all, but a huge loss to be had then.
Yes, no profit at allJonRB said:
How are they possibly going to recoup even their parts costs let alone the never-counted labour?
Yes, how are they possibly?KTF said:
Apparently making it as un-original as possible will have people falling over themselves to bid it through the roof.
Erm, yes, apparently.monthefish said:
snuffy said:
And they said the average prices was around £50k. So no profit to be made at all, but a huge loss to be had then.
Yes, no profit at allJonRB said:
How are they possibly going to recoup even their parts costs let alone the never-counted labour?
Yes, how are they possibly?KTF said:
Apparently making it as un-original as possible will have people falling over themselves to bid it through the roof.
Erm, yes, apparently.
Much as I like the "... is Born" series, Mark Evans is geek TV on a relatively obscure channel, generally for nerds like many PH-ers (I say that as a positive thing).
FTLOC is primetime Sunday night TV on a mainstream terrestrial channel. My missus - no interest in anything automotive, owned the world's biggest sh!heap Micra until I set her right - will tolerate the latter but not the former. So, it strikes a good balance, for the channel and timeslot of broadcast.
FTLOC is primetime Sunday night TV on a mainstream terrestrial channel. My missus - no interest in anything automotive, owned the world's biggest sh!heap Micra until I set her right - will tolerate the latter but not the former. So, it strikes a good balance, for the channel and timeslot of broadcast.
JonRB said:
Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing? You're so clever!
Irrelevant anyway - even cheap TV programmes cost tens of thousands of pounds per hour to produce so any "loss" on the restoration would be neither here nor there as long as people watch the programme and the advertising slots are filled.moribund said:
Irrelevant anyway - even cheap TV programmes cost tens of thousands of pounds per hour to produce so any "loss" on the restoration would be neither here nor there as long as people watch the programme and the advertising slots are filled.
Oh, without question. That's why Top Gear could happily buy a trio of £10k cars and then trash them, because it was still cheap telly. My point was that it is always easy to be wise after the event, and holding up for ridicule posts made during a programme with the benefit of hindsight after it has aired is akin to scoffing at people for not betting on the winner of the Grand National just after every horse has crossed the finishing line.
It looks like we have a replacement for Top Gear with the car experts! I preferred it before Phil Glenister when William Woollard presented.
The car looked a heap of cack.
Everyone involved in the programme is an idiot.
I know better than everyone involved in producing a mainstream TV programme.
The car looked a heap of cack.
Everyone involved in the programme is an idiot.
I know better than everyone involved in producing a mainstream TV programme.
JonRB said:
monthefish said:
snuffy said:
And they said the average prices was around £50k. So no profit to be made at all, but a huge loss to be had then.
Yes, no profit at allJonRB said:
How are they possibly going to recoup even their parts costs let alone the never-counted labour?
Yes, how are they possibly?KTF said:
Apparently making it as un-original as possible will have people falling over themselves to bid it through the roof.
Erm, yes, apparently.
monthefish said:
Clever enough not to make definitive, 'I know what I'm talking about even though I've never actually done a restoration' type statements only to be proved comprehensively wrong minutes later...
I can't speak for anyone else, but my question of "how on earth are they going to recoup their costs?" is a world away from a definitive statement of "they are not going to recoup their costs". But if you want to act all superior and be an arrogant arse, then by all means go ahead if it makes you feel better.
JonRB said:
I can't speak for anyone else, but my question of "how on earth are they going to recoup their costs?" is a world away from a definitive statement of "they are not going to recoup their costs".
But if you want to act all superior and be an arrogant arse, then by all means go ahead if it makes you feel better.
I think it is a deliberate programme policy, all in the script sort of thing.But if you want to act all superior and be an arrogant arse, then by all means go ahead if it makes you feel better.
They want us to disagree early on so salt the battlefield, but leave out all the bits that would support their procedures. Indeed, the script is probably not considered until a team of the knowledgeable have had more than a few meetings. I would also guess that auction houses have a bit of an input. After all, they want their house to have the highest price ever for whatever car is being sold.
I mean, look how clever they are. They know more than us because they knew what they were going to do all along.
I doubt Mike WD just shines a torch under a car and then decides to buy. I would assume the car is put up on axle stands and someone, perhaps a bit thinner, goes underneath before they shake hands on a price that, perhaps, doesn't come as a surprise to either.
Scene 22, Price Negotiation, Take 11.
Or, of course, there might really be a father christmas.
e21Mark said:
I was surprised at the apparent ease with which they sourced a pedal box and gearbox for the Aston.
Didn't they say £13k to convert to manual? About half that for a new Elite ZF box, maybe the rest for the propshaft, bellhousing, pedal box, mountings and clutch? Crossed my mind that maybe the crank might need work to convert from auto to manual, does on mine but then it's quite a different engine.JonRB said:
Oh, without question. That's why Top Gear could happily buy a trio of £10k cars and then trash them, because it was still cheap telly.
My point was that it is always easy to be wise after the event, and holding up for ridicule posts made during a programme with the benefit of hindsight after it has aired is akin to scoffing at people for not betting on the winner of the Grand National just after every horse has crossed the finishing line.
Thats it in a nutshell. I for one really enjoyed the programme, and so did other 'non' car people I know, which is the whole point.My point was that it is always easy to be wise after the event, and holding up for ridicule posts made during a programme with the benefit of hindsight after it has aired is akin to scoffing at people for not betting on the winner of the Grand National just after every horse has crossed the finishing line.
The constant battering of this, WD and Car SOS (which IMHO are all eminently watchable) is taking banality to a whole new level.
10 ish years ago we had Top Gear and the odd thing with mark evans at 3.00 in the ruddy morning. And that was it! Careful what you wish for people.....
droopsnoot said:
Didn't they say £13k to convert to manual? About half that for a new Elite ZF box, maybe the rest for the propshaft, bellhousing, pedal box, mountings and clutch? Crossed my mind that maybe the crank might need work to convert from auto to manual, does on mine but then it's quite a different engine.
I can well believe that. Racing Green TVR at one time were going to be offering a sequential gearbox for the Speed6-engined cars and their projected price was around £10k + fitting + VAT as I recall. Something in that ballpark anyway. monthefish said:
JonRB said:
monthefish said:
snuffy said:
And they said the average prices was around £50k. So no profit to be made at all, but a huge loss to be had then.
Yes, no profit at allJonRB said:
How are they possibly going to recoup even their parts costs let alone the never-counted labour?
Yes, how are they possibly?KTF said:
Apparently making it as un-original as possible will have people falling over themselves to bid it through the roof.
Erm, yes, apparently.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff