Parking Mad -BBC1 9pm

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Hoink

1,426 posts

159 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Eleven said:
That woman Caroline Sheppard handled a penalty charge notice I appealed about three years ago.

My appeal had already been rejected on dubious grounds by a junior adjudicator. Caroline Sheppard delayed, avoided and obfuscated for eighteen months until she couldn't defend the local authority and the junior adjudicator any longer and grudgingly uphelp my original appeal.

I eventually obtained £700 from Rushcliffe Borough Council for incorrectly issuing a penalty charge notice, lying at the appeal hearing and putting me to some trouble in the process of getting the PCN overturned.

It seemed very much as though Caroline Sheppard was reluctant in the extreme to find in my favour because the consequences of doing so could potentially have meant the local authority being exposed to thousands of pounds of claims. Furthermore it seemed that her allegiance was with the local authority, not the general public.
That's shocking. I often wonder how they behave when the cameras aren't there, especially when there's potentially a lot of money involved.

miniman

24,979 posts

263 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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SV8Predator said:
The bailiff telling the disabled chap (without use of his legs) in a Motability car: "You seem to be able to afford to drive a nice car...?"
He seemed to be doing ok driving his manual Quasqai...

Cliftonite

8,411 posts

139 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Eleven said:
That woman Caroline Sheppard handled a penalty charge notice I appealed about three years ago.

My appeal had already been rejected on dubious grounds by a junior adjudicator. Caroline Sheppard delayed, avoided and obfuscated for eighteen months until she couldn't defend the local authority and the junior adjudicator any longer and grudgingly uphelp my original appeal.

I eventually obtained £700 from Rushcliffe Borough Council for incorrectly issuing a penalty charge notice, lying at the appeal hearing and putting me to some trouble in the process of getting the PCN overturned.

It seemed very much as though Caroline Sheppard was reluctant in the extreme to find in my favour because the consequences of doing so could potentially have meant the local authority being exposed to thousands of pounds of claims. Furthermore it seemed that her allegiance was with the local authority, not the general public.
Who pays her wages?


Eleven

26,295 posts

223 months

Thursday 8th May 2014
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Hoink said:
Eleven said:
That woman Caroline Sheppard handled a penalty charge notice I appealed about three years ago.

My appeal had already been rejected on dubious grounds by a junior adjudicator. Caroline Sheppard delayed, avoided and obfuscated for eighteen months until she couldn't defend the local authority and the junior adjudicator any longer and grudgingly uphelp my original appeal.

I eventually obtained £700 from Rushcliffe Borough Council for incorrectly issuing a penalty charge notice, lying at the appeal hearing and putting me to some trouble in the process of getting the PCN overturned.

It seemed very much as though Caroline Sheppard was reluctant in the extreme to find in my favour because the consequences of doing so could potentially have meant the local authority being exposed to thousands of pounds of claims. Furthermore it seemed that her allegiance was with the local authority, not the general public.
That's shocking. I often wonder how they behave when the cameras aren't there, especially when there's potentially a lot of money involved.
Yes, I was shocked. I naively believed that the adjudicator would be impartial. When my appeal was rejected on frankly irrational grounds I assumed that if I took the matter high enough I would eventually receive fair treatment. Unfortunately, however, I had to fight far too hard to get a fair judgement.



mp3manager

4,254 posts

197 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Just the usual same old numpties who feel hard done by, just because they failed to pay a parking ticket on time.
I'm pretty sure the roofer guy would send in the bailiff's if one of his customers failed to pay his bill on time, so no point being a drama queen about it...just MTFU.

It's a pity we didn't see that RAK red-head running about putting tickets on cars yum

Had to laugh at bus-lane man...didn't know what his car was and when asked,'did you watch the video?'....'No.....there wasn't a video in the envelope!'

Classic!! laugh

Edited by mp3manager on Friday 9th May 01:57

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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I thought the bus lane guy just said he had not watched it, not that it was missing.

All those f***ing mums parking wherever got my goat. Learn to walk a bit, you're kids might actually survive a little exercise!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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garyhun said:
All those f***ing mums parking wherever got my goat. Learn to walk a bit, you're kids might actually survive a little exercise!
They were a bit precious. Life is hard don't you know, Tarquin and Tiffany should not witness real life in walking. Might catch stupid.

Having worked outside a house or two over the years close to a school and witnessed the build up and then the calm after the storm, they are harridans of the first order and take no prisoners and would scare the bejesus out of Genghis and his mates. But I bet they are the first to complain on poshmums.net when they feel aggrieved by similar actions enacted on themselves.

JQ

5,752 posts

180 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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and the chap who won the appeal which could result in £90m of returned parking fines due to a typo - where does he think the £90m will come from exactly. I bet his neighbours will love it when their Council Tax goes up 20% next year to pay back all the idiots incapable of parking legally.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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JQ said:
and the chap who won the appeal which could result in £90m of returned parking fines due to a typo - where does he think the £90m will come from exactly. I bet his neighbours will love it when their Council Tax goes up 20% next year to pay back all the idiots incapable of parking legally.
They were all parked legally...

stu67

812 posts

189 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Out of interest my dad used to own the dry cleaners right next to Brewer Street car park in the show. In the late 60's he took a 25 year lease on a parking space in there for peanuts. I think NCP took it over in the 80's. Towards the tail end of the agreement they constantly tried to buy him out of it,got to £40k, think he was paying something like £150 pa fixed with a right to renew at a reduced rate. It was the most expensive place to park then in London I can remember playing around as a kid with the chauffers in the various posh cars, got a lift once in Paul Raymonds Phantom Rolls to get ice creams!

megaphone

10,729 posts

252 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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JQ said:
and the chap who won the appeal which could result in £90m of returned parking fines due to a typo - where does he think the £90m will come from exactly. I bet his neighbours will love it when their Council Tax goes up 20% next year to pay back all the idiots incapable of parking legally.
There are a few councils (and their tax payers) who could be in for a nasty surprise. For example. Camden, in London , have been using 'illegal' parking suspension notices. City of London also use 'illegal' parking suspension notices, they recently backed down before appeal when I challenged one, they know they wouldn't have a leg to stand on if went to court, so they back down before it goes that far.

I had a £50 fine refunded from Richmond because they where using 'illegal' car cameras to trap parking motorists.

selym

9,544 posts

172 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Faust66 said:
stuartmmcfc said:
The dullest protest song I've ever heard.
Yep, and 50 quid says the bloke has a Che Guevara tea towel... middle class rebellion: don't you just love it?
That song was awful. Don't forget his Militant Tendency coasters!

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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selym said:
Don't forget his Militant Tendency coasters!
I think they were the support band for Billy Bragg wink

Trax

1,537 posts

233 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Deerfoot said:
AndyWoodall said:
I missed the bit leading up to that guy being in the traffic wardens face, what was the story? No need to get in the guys face like that, am I right in saying e warden didn't actually issue a ticket?
Basically the two guys spend their own money putting valid tickets on cars that have expired tickets. The parking guy was about to ticket a car when they put another ticket on it.

They spend up to £60 per weekend doing this because they "hate the council".

There was really no need for them to get in his face.
The reason they were a little unhappy, was that the warden was going to ticket the car, despite them already topping up the cars ticket up. The warden had thought they had gone, but they returned, and caught him printing out a ticket for a car they had already put the ticket on. As they were filming him, he didnt affix the ticket, and wondered off. So they decided to follow him, and see what else he got up to.

thetapeworm

11,236 posts

240 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Trax said:
Deerfoot said:
AndyWoodall said:
I missed the bit leading up to that guy being in the traffic wardens face, what was the story? No need to get in the guys face like that, am I right in saying e warden didn't actually issue a ticket?
Basically the two guys spend their own money putting valid tickets on cars that have expired tickets. The parking guy was about to ticket a car when they put another ticket on it.

They spend up to £60 per weekend doing this because they "hate the council".

There was really no need for them to get in his face.
The reason they were a little unhappy, was that the warden was going to ticket the car, despite them already topping up the cars ticket up. The warden had thought they had gone, but they returned, and caught him printing out a ticket for a car they had already put the ticket on. As they were filming him, he didnt affix the ticket, and wondered off. So they decided to follow him, and see what else he got up to.
I suspect that externally applied additional ticket might have "disappeared" when the ticket was given too - I'm sure it's not the first time he's come up against those two and they probably battle each other to get the upper hand.

TangerinePool

1,385 posts

191 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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jmorgan said:
garyhun said:
All those f***ing mums parking wherever got my goat. Learn to walk a bit, you're kids might actually survive a little exercise!
They were a bit precious. Life is hard don't you know, Tarquin and Tiffany should not witness real life in walking. Might catch stupid.

Having worked outside a house or two over the years close to a school and witnessed the build up and then the calm after the storm, they are harridans of the first order and take no prisoners and would scare the bejesus out of Genghis and his mates. But I bet they are the first to complain on poshmums.net when they feel aggrieved by similar actions enacted on themselves.
I’ve lived in a house very close to a primary school since birth and attended the school when I was young enough. Some years my parents installed a dropped kerb and white line |------------| yet people still park over the driveway as they’ll ‘only be a minute’ or ‘don’t give a scensoredt’. Also generally it is chaos as so many people turn up last minute to drop off their legless kids as close as possible to the gate and due to the width of the streets it becomes an unofficial one-way system that at least one person doesn’t adhere to causing carnage.

It brings out the absolute worst in people. I hate it and can’t wait to move now it’s my house to sell!

Deerfoot

4,902 posts

185 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Trax said:
Deerfoot said:
AndyWoodall said:
I missed the bit leading up to that guy being in the traffic wardens face, what was the story? No need to get in the guys face like that, am I right in saying e warden didn't actually issue a ticket?
Basically the two guys spend their own money putting valid tickets on cars that have expired tickets. The parking guy was about to ticket a car when they put another ticket on it.

They spend up to £60 per weekend doing this because they "hate the council".

There was really no need for them to get in his face.
The reason they were a little unhappy, was that the warden was going to ticket the car, despite them already topping up the cars ticket up. The warden had thought they had gone, but they returned, and caught him printing out a ticket for a car they had already put the ticket on. As they were filming him, he didnt affix the ticket, and wondered off. So they decided to follow him, and see what else he got up to.
Ah, I didn't see that bit (wife talking about some stuff, me not really listening but nodding head etc).

They did appear to be utter bell-ends though. I've never had a problem with getting a valid ticket to cover the time I'm away, quite why the population of Horsham struggle is beyond me.

chriscoates

789 posts

161 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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ch108 said:
It surprises me how many people expect the right to a parking space directly outside their own house when they don't have a private driveway or allocated parking space. As annoying as it may be that commuters going for the train clog up certain residential streets, it is after all a public road. If there are no parking restrictions I don't see the point of the fat lorry driver with binoculars harassing folk in the street.

Surely if having a private parking space is high on your must have list you would factor this in when looking for a house? Even if the public road outside the house seems quiet when the property was viewed, there isn't any guarantee it will stay like that over time.
Totally agree - they also ought to put themselves in the position of the commuters; would they really pay to park in a car park where there was free parking nearby? It's just basic logic. I have been an unfortunate victim of 'invading someone's territory' when parking at the OH's house before - the neighbour parks within a hair's breadth of your front end if you park in 'his' space rolleyes

MJK 24

5,648 posts

237 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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miniman said:
SV8Predator said:
The bailiff telling the disabled chap (without use of his legs) in a Motability car: "You seem to be able to afford to drive a nice car...?"
He seemed to be doing ok driving his manual Quasqai...
I clocked that too. Kept saying he had no legs but drove away just fine in manual gearbox car.

stuartmmcfc

8,664 posts

193 months

Saturday 10th May 2014
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You can have a "duck clutch" fitted to a manual car which operates the clutch via a button on the gear knob.
Don't know if this was the case here though.