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SteveStrange

3,910 posts

214 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Alickadoo said:
hmg said:
It’s interesting that some cast members were watching it last night as viewers not knowing whether their roles had made the ‘finale’ due to different endings being filmed and it all being kept under wraps.
Are we absolutely sure about that?
YEs, according to some radio interviews this morning, R4 I believe. The actor who played pharmacist being interviewed didn't know the outcome/ending.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,195 posts

212 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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I've just finished it.

I must admit when she noticed the broken basement window I shouted HIT YOUR EMERGENCY BUTTON NOW.

Anyway. Loved it. Please don't retire.

Alickadoo

1,746 posts

24 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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SteveStrange said:
YEs, according to some radio interviews this morning, R4 I believe. The actor who played pharmacist being interviewed didn't know the outcome/ending.
That's not the same as having umpteen different endings.

rambo19

2,749 posts

138 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Must admit, I thought it was a bit of a anti climax!

plenty

4,705 posts

187 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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I didn't understand why they didn't charge the PE teacher with his wife's murder? The blackmail charge was unrelated.

And Sgt Cawood holding back her discoveries about the pharmacist, revealing such critical info just minutes before signing off on her last day and only after the inspector mentioned Hepworth wasn't to be charged for the murder, was implausible to say the least.

A rushed and unsatisfying closure to that subplot, slightly spoiling what was otherwise a spectacular finale.

Punctilio

827 posts

24 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Halmyre said:
I think springing him and smuggling him to Spain was a reward for him keeping his mouth shut about a gangland killing. But when Darius realised he was going to cause further trouble he decided to do away with him.
Yes true, in the previous ep. the fella did plead with TLR not to exact revenge on a copper
once he got his freedom.

However the shady lady who fixed the landrover secretly fitted a bomb, a bomb
that would explode if it went over 50 mph,
I feel we can all agree Cath's in no danger.


Paul Dishman

4,718 posts

238 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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plenty said:
I didn't understand why they didn't charge the PE teacher with his wife's murder? The blackmail charge was unrelated.

And Sgt Cawood holding back her discoveries about the pharmacist, revealing such critical info just minutes before signing off on her last day and only after the inspector mentioned Hepworth wasn't to be charged for the murder, was implausible to say the least.

A rushed and unsatisfying closure to that subplot, slightly spoiling what was otherwise a spectacular finale.
On the evidence the police actually had, the PE teacher was bang to rights for his wife’s murder.
Sgt Cawood pointed the way for the pharmacist’s dodgy drug dealing which would have finished his career, but actually nailing him for the murder? Because he lived up the road from the Hepworths?
That’d be a big stretch, but we’ll never know smile



netherfield

2,691 posts

185 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Rather a lot of cameo roles this series, Catherine's ex, Nevison, Catherine's son, all played minimal roles, Anne Gallagher might have at least appeared when the rest of the police turned up.

And then Darius never came into the final episode either.

Could maybe have done with one more episode to tie up all the sub plots, before the TLR inferno.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,195 posts

212 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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netherfield said:
Rather a lot of cameo roles this series, Catherine's ex, Nevison, Catherine's son, all played minimal roles, Anne Gallagher might have at least appeared when the rest of the police turned up.

And then Darius never came into the final episode either.

Could maybe have done with one more episode to tie up all the sub plots, before the TLR inferno.
I think they could have run another episode. It seemed like they had an episode tally to hit.

Unlike netflix series that have the world's laziest editing to stretch out sparse material HB seemed to be in a rush...

Wacky Racer

38,203 posts

248 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Paul Dishman said:
On the evidence the police actually had, the PE teacher was bang to rights for his wife’s murder.
This is why hanging was abolished.

In the fifties he would have been executed for something he didn't do.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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plenty said:
I didn't understand why they didn't charge the PE teacher with his wife's murder? The blackmail charge was unrelated.
Because he didn't do it.

FourGears

270 posts

56 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Paul Dishman said:
On the evidence the police actually had, the PE teacher was bang to rights for his wife’s murder.
Sgt Cawood pointed the way for the pharmacist’s dodgy drug dealing which would have finished his career, but actually nailing him for the murder? Because he lived up the road from the Hepworths?
That’d be a big stretch, but we’ll never know smile
He had a cast iron alibi I expect. He was at school with numerous witnesses.


Excellent last episode. Made it mostly about TLR and Catherine.




Punctilio

827 posts

24 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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FourGears said:
He had a cast iron alibi I expect. He was at school with numerous witnesses.
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The chemist's alibi is maybe shaky, his DNA found on her body, CCTV or neighbours testifying to him leaving or entering the murder house, his involvement in drug criminality, it's not quite a slam dunk.

I wonder if both men could be charged and a jury decide which one is more guilty, and if the jury is locked then a Dance Off or Penalties.

48k

13,152 posts

149 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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FourGears said:
He had a cast iron alibi I expect. He was at school with numerous witnesses.
The police didn't have a time of death, they had a window from the evening before when the girls last saw her to the next day when the body was discovered so he wasn't at school during all of that time.

Halmyre

11,226 posts

140 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Punctilio said:
FourGears said:
He had a cast iron alibi I expect. He was at school with numerous witnesses.
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The chemist's alibi is maybe shaky, his DNA found on her body, CCTV or neighbours testifying to him leaving or entering the murder house, his involvement in drug criminality, it's not quite a slam dunk.

I wonder if both men could be charged and a jury decide which one is more guilty, and if the jury is locked then a Dance Off or Penalties.
The pharmacist has probably left enough DNA at the crime scene to make forensics' task a doddle, but he's also twitchy enough to cave in completely under questioning.

noopets

546 posts

57 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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I’ve avoided social media all day so just caught up.

Great series, just felt the last ep was rushed. Be nice to see a one off special tying up the loose ends then it can be put to bed.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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The replacement at 9pm next Sunday looks worth a look too, it's called Gold.

Piginapoke

4,771 posts

186 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Absolutely loved that. Kitchen scene was very good.

TLR: I forgive you.

Wife and me: fk off!

Re the ending, I liked how it all came down to Catherine and her sister, the central characters. It didn’t need all the other characters imo.

Ryan is a very good young actor.

Alickadoo

1,746 posts

24 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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Wacky Racer said:
This is why hanging was abolished.

In the fifties he would have been executed for something he didn't do.
No it wasn't.

It was abolished because it was not felt to be humane.



Evoluzione

10,345 posts

244 months

Monday 6th February 2023
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