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I'm guessing based on this current google satellite image of an area near Dawson city they are just leave it :
https://goo.gl/maps/RRws5ZJRhQ52
It does seem a bit crazy compared to attitudes in this country where we get upset if our neighbours grow a hedge.... I thought the countryside looked stunning in the shots from the top of Todds claim in Oregon. How can they just be allowed to dig it all up and leave it. Guess they have to have permits though and that might ensure it is only in one area. But when you look around the Klondike in google earth vast swathes of it appear left wrecked by the gold mining.
https://goo.gl/maps/RRws5ZJRhQ52
It does seem a bit crazy compared to attitudes in this country where we get upset if our neighbours grow a hedge.... I thought the countryside looked stunning in the shots from the top of Todds claim in Oregon. How can they just be allowed to dig it all up and leave it. Guess they have to have permits though and that might ensure it is only in one area. But when you look around the Klondike in google earth vast swathes of it appear left wrecked by the gold mining.
Edited by chrisga on Thursday 24th November 10:57
I think the funniest bit of the last show was when the Hoffmans were fannying about craning their shaker deck onto the wash plant. Dave Turin and Freddy Dodge were in charge and obviously knew what they were doing while Todd was staggering about under the weight of his gut shouting the most inane comments imaginable, as if he was directing operations.
Todd would struggle to find gold in the mouth of a gypsy and I have no idea why the rest of his crew stick with him unless it's just for the TV money.
Todd would struggle to find gold in the mouth of a gypsy and I have no idea why the rest of his crew stick with him unless it's just for the TV money.
chrisga said:
I'm guessing based on this current google satellite image of an area near Dawson city they are just leave it :
https://goo.gl/maps/RRws5ZJRhQ52
It does seem a bit crazy compared to attitudes in this country where we get upset if our neighbours grow a hedge.... I thought the countryside looked stunning in the shots from the top of Todds claim in Oregon. How can they just be allowed to dig it all up and leave it. Guess they have to have permits though and that might ensure it is only in one area. But when you look around the Klondike in google earth vast swathes of it appear left wrecked by the gold mining.
I guess it varies depending on location, but there was an end of season special a couple of years ago showing the pretty damned substantial efforts to redistribute the overburden and promote revitalisation of the ground. https://goo.gl/maps/RRws5ZJRhQ52
It does seem a bit crazy compared to attitudes in this country where we get upset if our neighbours grow a hedge.... I thought the countryside looked stunning in the shots from the top of Todds claim in Oregon. How can they just be allowed to dig it all up and leave it. Guess they have to have permits though and that might ensure it is only in one area. But when you look around the Klondike in google earth vast swathes of it appear left wrecked by the gold mining.
Edited by chrisga on Thursday 24th November 10:57
The trees grow bloody fast - I remember Freddie Dodge showing two areas, one hadn't been mined for decades if ever, the other 5 years ago iirc - you couldn't tell the difference between the two.
Of course, I very much doubt they do this between seasons when the claim is going to be mined the following year.
Yep that makes sense but some of the dredge tailings viewed from Google satellite look like they have been there a long time and it would take a hell of a lot work to landscape and make look nice again.
We watched "operation gold rush" with Dan Snow on BBC2 and think they ended up on an old claim that hadn't been mined for years, maybe even since the "rush" and they were stood on the old tailings of a dredge.
We watched "operation gold rush" with Dan Snow on BBC2 and think they ended up on an old claim that hadn't been mined for years, maybe even since the "rush" and they were stood on the old tailings of a dredge.
I just caught up with this weeks eppisode, I basically echo what I said last week. Todd wtf?
Let's dig here and see how deep bedrock is, then we can see what the gold is like.
Somebody must be funding this, and they must have fallen out. Because he certainly wouldn't do that with his own money!
Looks like it goes a bit wrong for all the crews though in the coming weeks
Let's dig here and see how deep bedrock is, then we can see what the gold is like.
Somebody must be funding this, and they must have fallen out. Because he certainly wouldn't do that with his own money!
Looks like it goes a bit wrong for all the crews though in the coming weeks
del mar said:
What do they do the countryside once they have finished - they make a hell of a mess.
Does US law make them return it to the same state as before or like coal mining do they take what they want and move on ?
This is countryside no one gives a **** about. Its miles from anywhere, literally the back of beyond. Does US law make them return it to the same state as before or like coal mining do they take what they want and move on ?
I'd suggest it would take another ice age to rid the country of the scars left by the gold miners. No way the government can restore this land. Only a massive glacier is going to tidy that up!
nothing, nothing at all can grow on the tailings piles. At least if they can be clearly seen and identified no ones going to waste resources "doing a Todd" and re-dredging the area.
I suspect there's loads of pollution up there - it takes money time and great effort to get stuff there, they aren't spending the same to recover waste.
316Mining said:
I suspect there's loads of pollution up there - it takes money time and great effort to get stuff there, they aren't spending the same to recover waste.
Depends what you mean by waste. There will be all manner of old machines which are not economic to recover or scrap, but there wont be much pollution as such. Small amounts of diesel and hydraulic oil, but not heavy metals used in the mining like they are in Africa. As for the scars on the landscape, they are what they are and they're not normally put back to natural. Nature will eventually take over and things will grow on tailings and in the cuts.
Well, Dave's wall looked a bit shoddy and yet more equipment and down time required before they've even pulled any gold out of the ground, so essentially this season is an unmitigated disaster, right up there with Guyana.
Parker's plodding along with a skeleton crew for what looks to be a very dull season and we're seeing the same old problems with Tony's dredge.
Seems to me like they're running out of ways to keep it interesting, which is a shame as I do like the programme.
Parker's plodding along with a skeleton crew for what looks to be a very dull season and we're seeing the same old problems with Tony's dredge.
Seems to me like they're running out of ways to keep it interesting, which is a shame as I do like the programme.
youngsyr said:
Well, Dave's wall looked a bit shoddy and yet more equipment and down time required before they've even pulled any gold out of the ground, so essentially this season is an unmitigated disaster, right up there with Guyana.
Parker's plodding along with a skeleton crew for what looks to be a very dull season and we're seeing the same old problems with Tony's dredge.
Seems to me like they're running out of ways to keep it interesting, which is a shame as I do like the programme.
in the next episode I think Todd gets a massive fail. Seems like their new cut doesn't have gold anywhere near the surface - they have to remove 100ft of overburden....Parker's plodding along with a skeleton crew for what looks to be a very dull season and we're seeing the same old problems with Tony's dredge.
Seems to me like they're running out of ways to keep it interesting, which is a shame as I do like the programme.
316Mining said:
youngsyr said:
Well, Dave's wall looked a bit shoddy and yet more equipment and down time required before they've even pulled any gold out of the ground, so essentially this season is an unmitigated disaster, right up there with Guyana.
Parker's plodding along with a skeleton crew for what looks to be a very dull season and we're seeing the same old problems with Tony's dredge.
Seems to me like they're running out of ways to keep it interesting, which is a shame as I do like the programme.
in the next episode ...Parker's plodding along with a skeleton crew for what looks to be a very dull season and we're seeing the same old problems with Tony's dredge.
Seems to me like they're running out of ways to keep it interesting, which is a shame as I do like the programme.
youngsyr said:
316Mining said:
youngsyr said:
Well, Dave's wall looked a bit shoddy and yet more equipment and down time required before they've even pulled any gold out of the ground, so essentially this season is an unmitigated disaster, right up there with Guyana.
Parker's plodding along with a skeleton crew for what looks to be a very dull season and we're seeing the same old problems with Tony's dredge.
Seems to me like they're running out of ways to keep it interesting, which is a shame as I do like the programme.
in the next episode ...Parker's plodding along with a skeleton crew for what looks to be a very dull season and we're seeing the same old problems with Tony's dredge.
Seems to me like they're running out of ways to keep it interesting, which is a shame as I do like the programme.
Yet earlier they were going on about 'don't matter how far down it is, I'll git that there durt'...
Humble pie with the two brothers they f
ked on High Bar, then a miraculous recovery via big ass nuggits?
There's no way the show fees are covering the losses being run up, season after season.
Humble pie with the two brothers they f
ked on High Bar, then a miraculous recovery via big ass nuggits? There's no way the show fees are covering the losses being run up, season after season.
If you had a whole load of other people relying on you for their livelihoods wouldn't you do some basic due diligence before uprooting your business and moving a thousand miles?
Why wouldn't the Hoffmans have spent another year working in the Yukon while getting some ground surveys done on the Oregon sites rather than just pitching up with apparently no idea whatsoever that one location has unevenly distributed gold and the other has 100ft of overburden?
If this is genuinely how they're attempting to run a business rather than TV company manufactured fake jeopardy then they fully deserve to go out of business.
Why wouldn't the Hoffmans have spent another year working in the Yukon while getting some ground surveys done on the Oregon sites rather than just pitching up with apparently no idea whatsoever that one location has unevenly distributed gold and the other has 100ft of overburden?
If this is genuinely how they're attempting to run a business rather than TV company manufactured fake jeopardy then they fully deserve to go out of business.
rohrl said:
If you had a whole load of other people relying on you for their livelihoods wouldn't you do some basic due diligence before uprooting your business and moving a thousand miles?
Why wouldn't the Hoffmans have spent another year working in the Yukon while getting some ground surveys done on the Oregon sites rather than just pitching up with apparently no idea whatsoever that one location has unevenly distributed gold and the other has 100ft of overburden?
If this is genuinely how they're attempting to run a business rather than TV company manufactured fake jeopardy then they fully deserve to go out of business.
It is staggering how he went from his best ever year on proven ground, which I assume there was more to that patch of land to get another year out of, to uprooting 1000's of miles away on that one good pan they found, the nuggets were impressive granted but obviously there needed more research.Why wouldn't the Hoffmans have spent another year working in the Yukon while getting some ground surveys done on the Oregon sites rather than just pitching up with apparently no idea whatsoever that one location has unevenly distributed gold and the other has 100ft of overburden?
If this is genuinely how they're attempting to run a business rather than TV company manufactured fake jeopardy then they fully deserve to go out of business.
I can only see him going bankrupt so far.
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