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Du1point8 said:
London424 said:
That was a bit of a surprise last night...1/2 million $ to buy into a partnership stake with Todd.
Yeah but this is Todd 'I don't have a f
king clue what Im doing' Hoffman.He manages to f
k it all up and somehow finds enough to scrap by, I bet the only money he ever makes is on the pay per episode.Pulling $1 million of gold out of the ground in a season is all well and good, but when you've got $10 million + of equipment plus a crew of 20 to do it, all in the middle of nowhere, plus running costs for the lot for 6+ months, even the "successful" seasons just don't add up.
I've been afan of gold rush since series one. What I don't understand, is the effort toby is going through with the dredge.
He bought it for $1m, has spend God knows how much dismantling it, needs to move it, then rebuild it. You can garauntee it won't work straight away!
Surely it would have been easier to make one from scratch?
He bought it for $1m, has spend God knows how much dismantling it, needs to move it, then rebuild it. You can garauntee it won't work straight away!
Surely it would have been easier to make one from scratch?
Andyjc86 said:
I've been afan of gold rush since series one. What I don't understand, is the effort toby is going through with the dredge.
He bought it for $1m, has spend God knows how much dismantling it, needs to move it, then rebuild it. You can garauntee it won't work straight away!
Surely it would have been easier to make one from scratch?
Unlikely - didn't "Big Red" cost $1m? The dredge would cost multiples of that, possibly factors of 10.He bought it for $1m, has spend God knows how much dismantling it, needs to move it, then rebuild it. You can garauntee it won't work straight away!
Surely it would have been easier to make one from scratch?
He also explained on "The Dirt" that dredging allows a longer season - you dig your cut, flood it and then float your dredge. When your cut ices over, you just pump the underlying water out, the ice breaks under its own weight and you carry on dredging - submerged pay doesn't freeze. This adds at least a month to each end of the season.
On top of that, Tony mentioned that it only requires a crew of 2 to run it, impressive if so.
Sounds brilliant, but if it's so good, why have they stopped using them?
I wonder if having complete reliance of all aspects of the operation on one piece of kit is a big risk?
At least if a excavator/loader breaks it's replaceable (and the rest of the operation can often carry on).
Talking of that, found it very odd that whilst they were shifting the wash plant last episode, they weren't cutting and prepping a big stock to run through the wash as soon as it was ready. Would give a nice buffer on the rest of the process...
I reckon I could increase their efficiency massively, in process terms they are pure amateurs.
I wonder if having complete reliance of all aspects of the operation on one piece of kit is a big risk?
At least if a excavator/loader breaks it's replaceable (and the rest of the operation can often carry on).
Talking of that, found it very odd that whilst they were shifting the wash plant last episode, they weren't cutting and prepping a big stock to run through the wash as soon as it was ready. Would give a nice buffer on the rest of the process...
I reckon I could increase their efficiency massively, in process terms they are pure amateurs.
Sway said:
Sounds brilliant, but if it's so good, why have they stopped using them?
I wonder if having complete reliance of all aspects of the operation on one piece of kit is a big risk?
At least if a excavator/loader breaks it's replaceable (and the rest of the operation can often carry on).
Talking of that, found it very odd that whilst they were shifting the wash plant last episode, they weren't cutting and prepping a big stock to run through the wash as soon as it was ready. Would give a nice buffer on the rest of the process...
I reckon I could increase their efficiency massively, in process terms they are pure amateurs.
Tony said that he had some of the only land in the region that was suitable for dredging - consider that you have to be able to flood the land and have it hold enough water to float the dredge!I wonder if having complete reliance of all aspects of the operation on one piece of kit is a big risk?
At least if a excavator/loader breaks it's replaceable (and the rest of the operation can often carry on).
Talking of that, found it very odd that whilst they were shifting the wash plant last episode, they weren't cutting and prepping a big stock to run through the wash as soon as it was ready. Would give a nice buffer on the rest of the process...
I reckon I could increase their efficiency massively, in process terms they are pure amateurs.
I suspect dredges aren't used so much nowadays because (1) a lot of suitable land has already been dredged and (2) whilst the increased price of gold makes dredging more appealing as a technique than 10/20 years ago, there simply aren't serviceable dredges in existence and the upfront cost is too high to build new ones.
As for their processes, don't forget you're only seeing a highly stylised version of what actually goes on, edited to make it entertaining, including a lot of false jeopardy.
Hofffman's crew aside, I suspect the mine managers (Parker, Freddy Dodge, Tony et al) are acutely aware of the processes and how much time/money each decision costs them.
Interesting on the dredges.
Wrt their processes, even allowing for editing there's a lot they could learn (and I'm sure the bigger boys have that knowledge). There's a big difference to them knowing costs/throughput/etc. and proper process engineering. Their management of tasks is very poor, which shows when it comes to wash movement etc.
I'm a new joiner to the show - saw a few episodes from earlier series (was it Parker and his dad digging the huge hole to the bottom of the old waterfall? Wondered what happened with that) but this series has me hooked!
Need to check if the earlier series are on SkyGo...
Wrt their processes, even allowing for editing there's a lot they could learn (and I'm sure the bigger boys have that knowledge). There's a big difference to them knowing costs/throughput/etc. and proper process engineering. Their management of tasks is very poor, which shows when it comes to wash movement etc.
I'm a new joiner to the show - saw a few episodes from earlier series (was it Parker and his dad digging the huge hole to the bottom of the old waterfall? Wondered what happened with that) but this series has me hooked!
Need to check if the earlier series are on SkyGo...
I think it's just tension building...
They mentioned it's soon that Parker has to pay the balance on Big Red, then in the trailer for the next show Todd has apparently managed to wangle the biggest wash plant in the Klondike. I'd imagine he'd only have the cash to do that once he'd received Parker's payment.
Dave's grief with the permafrost was mental - that layer of solid ice! $30 a yard underneath, surely worth renting a tracked dozer for a few weeks and get it prepped for next season whilst still running in the easy area with their great wash kit? Assuming his lease allows a return next year?
They mentioned it's soon that Parker has to pay the balance on Big Red, then in the trailer for the next show Todd has apparently managed to wangle the biggest wash plant in the Klondike. I'd imagine he'd only have the cash to do that once he'd received Parker's payment.
Dave's grief with the permafrost was mental - that layer of solid ice! $30 a yard underneath, surely worth renting a tracked dozer for a few weeks and get it prepped for next season whilst still running in the easy area with their great wash kit? Assuming his lease allows a return next year?
Sway said:
I think it's just tension building...
They mentioned it's soon that Parker has to pay the balance on Big Red, then in the trailer for the next show Todd has apparently managed to wangle the biggest wash plant in the Klondike. I'd imagine he'd only have the cash to do that once he'd received Parker's payment.
Dave's grief with the permafrost was mental - that layer of solid ice! $30 a yard underneath, surely worth renting a tracked dozer for a few weeks and get it prepped for next season whilst still running in the easy area with their great wash kit? Assuming his lease allows a return next year?
Pretty sure it's a one year lease on that claim (would you grant the Hoffman's a multi-year deal?!).They mentioned it's soon that Parker has to pay the balance on Big Red, then in the trailer for the next show Todd has apparently managed to wangle the biggest wash plant in the Klondike. I'd imagine he'd only have the cash to do that once he'd received Parker's payment.
Dave's grief with the permafrost was mental - that layer of solid ice! $30 a yard underneath, surely worth renting a tracked dozer for a few weeks and get it prepped for next season whilst still running in the easy area with their great wash kit? Assuming his lease allows a return next year?
I think Dave could have dealt with permafrost, it was 8 feet of solid ice that beat him. They mentioned it was a frozen lake bed.
Sway said:
I'm a new joiner to the show - saw a few episodes from earlier series (was it Parker and his dad digging the huge hole to the bottom of the old waterfall? Wondered what happened with that) but this series has me hooked!
Need to check if the earlier series are on SkyGo...
That was Fred and his son Dustin, they were good fun to watch and proper just get it done types. Need to check if the earlier series are on SkyGo...
Not on this season due to I guess appearance fees or a falling out with the crew.
Im looking forward to seeing a dredge work again having seen a few old/sunken ones. Fascinating.
Anyway, if you want to see some proper gold rush watch this youtube. Not professional, and you have to put up with his narration, but a very real amature story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRvXFAEaWrU
Anyway, if you want to see some proper gold rush watch this youtube. Not professional, and you have to put up with his narration, but a very real amature story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRvXFAEaWrU
I am uptoday (with the US).
For some reason this is one of the only shows I watch on TV, its really good.. I think because under the bks they are working there arses off to attempt to make it work (with or without the spanner in the works that is Todd and his Dad). As for Parker, I really like him, and want him to do well, The kid is rich now from solid hard graft.
I assume that pretty much everywhere these guys are digging has been mined to death before, and they are basically going on mass volume of dirt with modern technology to get the scraps from the initial gold rush where they couldn't get everything.
What I don't get is why those crazy fools in the bearing sea are doing that for what seems a ste load more danger, with much much less gold.
For some reason this is one of the only shows I watch on TV, its really good.. I think because under the b
ks they are working there arses off to attempt to make it work (with or without the spanner in the works that is Todd and his Dad). As for Parker, I really like him, and want him to do well, The kid is rich now from solid hard graft.I assume that pretty much everywhere these guys are digging has been mined to death before, and they are basically going on mass volume of dirt with modern technology to get the scraps from the initial gold rush where they couldn't get everything.
What I don't get is why those crazy fools in the bearing sea are doing that for what seems a s
te load more danger, with much much less gold.Edited by joe_90 on Monday 16th February 08:38
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