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youngsyr said:
The Hoffmans continue to demonstrate their ineptitude (who would have thought that bedrock isn't completely flat and level?!), but at least Parker seems to be getting into his stride and seems to be on track for his season target. Great to see his Grandad is still going strong too.
Was surprised to see the state of Tony Beets' mine in the last episode - I thought he was a big time miner, but it seems he's not that far ahead of the people featured in the programme - 20 year old kit, mine closed down by 3 people quitting, etc.?
Yeah that mine looks more like a parts graveyard - I suspect he's got more than one Wash Plant / mine - he seems to own a lot of land up there to lease out too.Was surprised to see the state of Tony Beets' mine in the last episode - I thought he was a big time miner, but it seems he's not that far ahead of the people featured in the programme - 20 year old kit, mine closed down by 3 people quitting, etc.?
I suspect if you asked him about the wash plant he'd say:
"well [barely legible Dutch/English] expletive, [barely legible Dutch/English] expletive, [barely legible Dutch/English] don't it?!!!!"
Which would translate as sort of 'it's ugly, but it works'.
k", "sAndyjc86 said:
I was trying to work this out this week......
Are the Hoffman crew, and parkers crew roughly the same size? If so, I know who I'd rather work for!
Not even close, the Hoffman crew is massive, they've got twice the workforce at a guess, a huge fleet of new or very fresh equipment and "the biggest wash-plant in the Klondike". Even the seasoned pros he went to beg for advice in the last UK episode only have a wash-plant that can cope with 2/3rds of what Hoffman's can. Are the Hoffman crew, and parkers crew roughly the same size? If so, I know who I'd rather work for!
My biggest 'worry' about this season is that he gave Dave Turin join boss status, which is the first good decision he's ever made on Gold Rush, unfortunately Dave's been unlucky at lot of the time - as in real life - the right decision doesn't always mean the best outcome and it's validating Todd's stupidity, and the fat prick has got "looking smug" down to a fine art. He might convince Dave that he's got his head screwed on after-all.
I have to admit as bad a miner Todd is, he's an absolutely brilliant businessman, he has to be, it's the only way I could imagine how he managed to turn up in the Klondike without a pot to piss in, nor window to throw it out - blag a decent plot of land in return for a % of gold found, AKA valueless and then convince the only guy he has with a gram of sense to give him $500,000.00 to have half of it.
P-Jay said:
Andyjc86 said:
I was trying to work this out this week......
Are the Hoffman crew, and parkers crew roughly the same size? If so, I know who I'd rather work for!
Not even close, the Hoffman crew is massive, they've got twice the workforce at a guess, a huge fleet of new or very fresh equipment and "the biggest wash-plant in the Klondike". Even the seasoned pros he went to beg for advice in the last UK episode only have a wash-plant that can cope with 2/3rds of what Hoffman's can. Are the Hoffman crew, and parkers crew roughly the same size? If so, I know who I'd rather work for!
My biggest 'worry' about this season is that he gave Dave Turin join boss status, which is the first good decision he's ever made on Gold Rush, unfortunately Dave's been unlucky at lot of the time - as in real life - the right decision doesn't always mean the best outcome and it's validating Todd's stupidity, and the fat prick has got "looking smug" down to a fine art. He might convince Dave that he's got his head screwed on after-all.
I have to admit as bad a miner Todd is, he's an absolutely brilliant businessman, he has to be, it's the only way I could imagine how he managed to turn up in the Klondike without a pot to piss in, nor window to throw it out - blag a decent plot of land in return for a % of gold found, AKA valueless and then convince the only guy he has with a gram of sense to give him $500,000.00 to have half of it.
However, getting those very heavy backers on board must have taken great business acumen in the first place.
youngsyr said:
P-Jay said:
Andyjc86 said:
I was trying to work this out this week......
Are the Hoffman crew, and parkers crew roughly the same size? If so, I know who I'd rather work for!
Not even close, the Hoffman crew is massive, they've got twice the workforce at a guess, a huge fleet of new or very fresh equipment and "the biggest wash-plant in the Klondike". Even the seasoned pros he went to beg for advice in the last UK episode only have a wash-plant that can cope with 2/3rds of what Hoffman's can. Are the Hoffman crew, and parkers crew roughly the same size? If so, I know who I'd rather work for!
My biggest 'worry' about this season is that he gave Dave Turin join boss status, which is the first good decision he's ever made on Gold Rush, unfortunately Dave's been unlucky at lot of the time - as in real life - the right decision doesn't always mean the best outcome and it's validating Todd's stupidity, and the fat prick has got "looking smug" down to a fine art. He might convince Dave that he's got his head screwed on after-all.
I have to admit as bad a miner Todd is, he's an absolutely brilliant businessman, he has to be, it's the only way I could imagine how he managed to turn up in the Klondike without a pot to piss in, nor window to throw it out - blag a decent plot of land in return for a % of gold found, AKA valueless and then convince the only guy he has with a gram of sense to give him $500,000.00 to have half of it.
However, getting those very heavy backers on board must have taken great business acumen in the first place.
Does anyone know if TH set up the show or did Discovery do it and pluck him from obscurity? I know the chaps from Pawn Stars and Fast n' Loud spent a good few years trying to sell their concept to various stations.
P-Jay said:
Does anyone know if TH set up the show or did Discovery do it and pluck him from obscurity?
Todd is the one who conceived gold rush and it has been scripted from the start. In the first season there is a scene where they shoot a rampaging bear. It was subsequently discovered that they had gone through the process of getting permits to kill bears for this scene. In one of the after show specials Parker, who clearly hates Todd, insinuated that he would not have had the success he has had if it was not for the show and he thanked Todd, and not the producers.I believe that Parker and Tony are in it for gold mining and Todd is in it for TV.
Todd also owns this,
Latest UK episode spoilers below.
The last episode confirms the ridiculous nature of the Hoffman's operation. They have at least 8 crew, reportedly the biggest wash plant in the Klondike and all the running costs that set up would imply and are over the moon with a 130 odd Oz clean up for the week.
Meanwhile Parker, who is trying to set up a sustainable (and much smaller operation) operation is disappointed with his previous week's 130 Oz clean up, because Tony made him run unprofitable dirt for part of the week.
From the latest "The Dirt" episode, seems like Parker may well be back mining for Tony next year, he certainly didn't seem confident about picking up his own land, although he has previously hinted that they had a successful season.
The last episode confirms the ridiculous nature of the Hoffman's operation. They have at least 8 crew, reportedly the biggest wash plant in the Klondike and all the running costs that set up would imply and are over the moon with a 130 odd Oz clean up for the week.
Meanwhile Parker, who is trying to set up a sustainable (and much smaller operation) operation is disappointed with his previous week's 130 Oz clean up, because Tony made him run unprofitable dirt for part of the week.
From the latest "The Dirt" episode, seems like Parker may well be back mining for Tony next year, he certainly didn't seem confident about picking up his own land, although he has previously hinted that they had a successful season.
I don't blame Parker for going off the idea of buying his own land - it doesn't seem to make financial sense.
I'm of course, aware that 'land' could be a square mile or hundreds but 'all things being equal' Parker pays Tony Beets 15% of all the Gold he finds for his parcel of land - he's pretty much going to have taken all the useable ground up in two years - In the first year he found a record 1000oz by working himself to death for weeks after the end of the season with his Tattooed mate it was worth $1.4m this year he's aiming for 2000oz. Presuming that the Gold price hasn't fallen too much and he hits his target it'll be worth $2.8m and it's a big 'if' because by the latest UK episode, he's running out of ground very fast.
The remaining gold in the land is either in permafrost or in such low concentration that it's not worth mining - essentially rendering the land worthless - well, if he's honest about it anyway.
So he's taken $4.2m in Gold out, and paid Tony $630k for the privilege and the ground will now be returned to nature and worthless. They're talking about him buying land for $2m-$3m. I know Tony is a proper pain in the arse, but pay $2m to be free of him, sod that.
I'm of course, aware that 'land' could be a square mile or hundreds but 'all things being equal' Parker pays Tony Beets 15% of all the Gold he finds for his parcel of land - he's pretty much going to have taken all the useable ground up in two years - In the first year he found a record 1000oz by working himself to death for weeks after the end of the season with his Tattooed mate it was worth $1.4m this year he's aiming for 2000oz. Presuming that the Gold price hasn't fallen too much and he hits his target it'll be worth $2.8m and it's a big 'if' because by the latest UK episode, he's running out of ground very fast.
The remaining gold in the land is either in permafrost or in such low concentration that it's not worth mining - essentially rendering the land worthless - well, if he's honest about it anyway.
So he's taken $4.2m in Gold out, and paid Tony $630k for the privilege and the ground will now be returned to nature and worthless. They're talking about him buying land for $2m-$3m. I know Tony is a proper pain in the arse, but pay $2m to be free of him, sod that.
I think there's a couple of elements to it.
He's said that one thing he's learnt from his grandfather is to never be held to another - so even if it costs I can see there's a desire to be 'free'.
The other is he's clearly good, and some of Tony's demands have cost him money. If he's to be the 'next Tony Beets' he's gonna have to start buying land. God knows how much Tony has, but he's clearly getting decent incomes from leasing some out, and keeping the best for himself to extract when he wants.
However, he's got to be able to afford it. I get the impression he's debt averse, but he's gonna have to get the cash somehow.
Give it a couple of years...
He's said that one thing he's learnt from his grandfather is to never be held to another - so even if it costs I can see there's a desire to be 'free'.
The other is he's clearly good, and some of Tony's demands have cost him money. If he's to be the 'next Tony Beets' he's gonna have to start buying land. God knows how much Tony has, but he's clearly getting decent incomes from leasing some out, and keeping the best for himself to extract when he wants.
However, he's got to be able to afford it. I get the impression he's debt averse, but he's gonna have to get the cash somehow.
Give it a couple of years...
If you listen to parker and his costs he reckons in one episode that this year cost him $2 million for everything, this makes his salary in the region of $500-800k so its not quite as good a money spinner as it seems.
Although he probably gets $25-50k per episode for appearing on tv as well.
Although he probably gets $25-50k per episode for appearing on tv as well.
P-Jay said:
I don't blame Parker for going off the idea of buying his own land - it doesn't seem to make financial sense.
I'm of course, aware that 'land' could be a square mile or hundreds but 'all things being equal' Parker pays Tony Beets 15% of all the Gold he finds for his parcel of land - he's pretty much going to have taken all the useable ground up in two years - In the first year he found a record 1000oz by working himself to death for weeks after the end of the season with his Tattooed mate it was worth $1.4m this year he's aiming for 2000oz. Presuming that the Gold price hasn't fallen too much and he hits his target it'll be worth $2.8m and it's a big 'if' because by the latest UK episode, he's running out of ground very fast.
The remaining gold in the land is either in permafrost or in such low concentration that it's not worth mining - essentially rendering the land worthless - well, if he's honest about it anyway.
So he's taken $4.2m in Gold out, and paid Tony $630k for the privilege and the ground will now be returned to nature and worthless. They're talking about him buying land for $2m-$3m. I know Tony is a proper pain in the arse, but pay $2m to be free of him, sod that.
I see where you're coming from, but it depends on the quality of the land. Land owners aren't going to give their best land away to people on a lease - they give the dregs and take a cut of the profits for someone else to do the slog.I'm of course, aware that 'land' could be a square mile or hundreds but 'all things being equal' Parker pays Tony Beets 15% of all the Gold he finds for his parcel of land - he's pretty much going to have taken all the useable ground up in two years - In the first year he found a record 1000oz by working himself to death for weeks after the end of the season with his Tattooed mate it was worth $1.4m this year he's aiming for 2000oz. Presuming that the Gold price hasn't fallen too much and he hits his target it'll be worth $2.8m and it's a big 'if' because by the latest UK episode, he's running out of ground very fast.
The remaining gold in the land is either in permafrost or in such low concentration that it's not worth mining - essentially rendering the land worthless - well, if he's honest about it anyway.
So he's taken $4.2m in Gold out, and paid Tony $630k for the privilege and the ground will now be returned to nature and worthless. They're talking about him buying land for $2m-$3m. I know Tony is a proper pain in the arse, but pay $2m to be free of him, sod that.
h0b0 said:
P-Jay said:
Does anyone know if TH set up the show or did Discovery do it and pluck him from obscurity?
Todd is the one who conceived gold rush and it has been scripted from the start. In the first season there is a scene where they shoot a rampaging bear. It was subsequently discovered that they had gone through the process of getting permits to kill bears for this scene. In one of the after show specials Parker, who clearly hates Todd, insinuated that he would not have had the success he has had if it was not for the show and he thanked Todd, and not the producers.I believe that Parker and Tony are in it for gold mining and Todd is in it for TV.
Todd also owns this,
Still.....its one more airport than I own!
Sway said:
Yep, found it quite interesting how much Tony was able to pull out in under a week with just him and his son and daughter...
There was no mention of the number of yards run, but you can bet it was less than half the number Parker would have needed for that haul!
On the episode before last?There was no mention of the number of yards run, but you can bet it was less than half the number Parker would have needed for that haul!
They didn't mine it, their plant operator resigned and left them in the lurch - but the "pay" was already mined and piled up - they 'just' fed it through the plant and did the clear up.
P-Jay said:
Sway said:
Yep, found it quite interesting how much Tony was able to pull out in under a week with just him and his son and daughter...
There was no mention of the number of yards run, but you can bet it was less than half the number Parker would have needed for that haul!
On the episode before last?There was no mention of the number of yards run, but you can bet it was less than half the number Parker would have needed for that haul!
They didn't mine it, their plant operator resigned and left them in the lurch - but the "pay" was already mined and piled up - they 'just' fed it through the plant and did the clear up.
However, small old washplant. Lots and lots of gold. That pay must have held a lot more per yard than the stuff Parker is running!
Sway said:
Yep, and I got the point that they were 'just' running paydirt throught the wash.
However, small old washplant. Lots and lots of gold. That pay must have held a lot more per yard than the stuff Parker is running!
He said when he was running it that it was white channel pay - an area that holds a lot of gold However, small old washplant. Lots and lots of gold. That pay must have held a lot more per yard than the stuff Parker is running!
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