Gold rush

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westtra

1,534 posts

201 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Du1point8 said:
I thought he was mining the new ground asap and not mining the crap, why is he not mining the unknown stuff?
You'd have to assume part of the contract with tony. Has to finish what he started to get all the recoverable gold prior to moving forward.

rohrl

8,737 posts

145 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Easternlight said:
Zeeg!!
Zeke.

Short for Ezekiel.

joe_90

4,206 posts

231 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Kaj91 said:
I still would.

Her 'Crazy' Meter is off the scale...

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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P-Jay said:
Beati Dogu said:
There's a lot of newish looking Volvo plant and Caterpillar D9s on these sites too. It wouldn't surprise me if they get those loaned to them for the show either.
Way back when in series 1, when it was all about non-miners trying their hand because the 'Great Recession' put them out of work they showed a few other mines - they were all huge commercial ventures, gold mining on an industrial scale.

Only now are the various mining outfits shown on the show reaching that sort of size, IMHO when they're actually viable businesses.

The famous Big Nugget mine that John Schnabel ran was a hobby really for his kids, John made his fortune from a Lumber Mill.
That's a good point, we all like to knock the Hoffmans, but they've come a hell of a long way and are now pulling out more gold in a week than they did in entire "successful" seasons in the past.

They have a huge operation now, even if it's unlikely to be running sat a profit.

Easternlight

3,430 posts

144 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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rohrl said:
Easternlight said:
Zeeg!!
Zeke.

Short for Ezekiel.
Ah, my bad.
Thanks.

chrisgtx

1,196 posts

210 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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I see Beets fired the two guys who were working the dredge, I can't see that going well as it seemed to take them a while how to work out running it.
I wonder if they were on a salary, or percentage?
I can't decide if I like tony or not, he's a character, but appears to treat people like dirt.
Nice to see Todd near enough on par with the feckless Hoffmanns with a fraction of the gear.

Beati Dogu

8,889 posts

139 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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You mean Parker. Yes he's done well & is on better terms with Tony Beets now too.

I prefer programmes like this & Deadliest Catch to the "bhy whining faggot" shows like Gold Divers and Ice Cold Gold.

Easternlight

3,430 posts

144 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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This season is loosing me a bit, things all seem to be going a bit too well.
Tony's dredge fiasco is about the only thing that's worth watching.
There's a show dedicated to Parker next week, might be interesting.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Easternlight said:
This season is loosing me a bit, things all seem to be going a bit too well.
Tony's dredge fiasco is about the only thing that's worth watching.
There's a show dedicated to Parker next week, might be interesting.
Yeah, not much drama so far. Parker has scaled back since last year and the Hoffmans and the dredge seem to be ticking over.

The Moose

22,847 posts

209 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Enjoying this series as all the previous ones.

The Parker special was ok, but not something that I'd watch again!

I did like Parker getting one over on Tony again...however I suspect the whole thing was set up for the TV

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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The Moose said:
Enjoying this series as all the previous ones.

The Parker special was ok, but not something that I'd watch again!

I did like Parker getting one over on Tony again...however I suspect the whole thing was set up for the TV
Yeah, Parker seems like the typical talented/motivated young adult - everything is black or white, struggles to see the bigger picture and keep his emotions under control.

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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youngsyr said:
The Moose said:
Enjoying this series as all the previous ones.

The Parker special was ok, but not something that I'd watch again!

I did like Parker getting one over on Tony again...however I suspect the whole thing was set up for the TV
Yeah, Parker seems like the typical talented/motivated young adult - everything is black or white, struggles to see the bigger picture and keep his emotions under control.
I watched the special and I'd completely forgotten how young he was when it first kicked off, and how young he still is. He is incredibly driven though and he'll do well for himself in life.

I'd still love to know more about the financials of operations though.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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London424 said:
youngsyr said:
The Moose said:
Enjoying this series as all the previous ones.

The Parker special was ok, but not something that I'd watch again!

I did like Parker getting one over on Tony again...however I suspect the whole thing was set up for the TV
Yeah, Parker seems like the typical talented/motivated young adult - everything is black or white, struggles to see the bigger picture and keep his emotions under control.
I watched the special and I'd completely forgotten how young he was when it first kicked off, and how young he still is. He is incredibly driven though and he'll do well for himself in life.

I'd still love to know more about the financials of operations though.
Indeed, he led an operation that pulled $2m worth of gold out of the ground by the time he was 21, so he has already achieved more than most people ever will.

Give him 10 years experience of running crews, negotiating deals and operating large mines and I don't see any reason why he won't be one of the most successful independent operators in the sector.

As much as we mock the Hoffmans, they've come a hell of a long way too in just a few years.

rohrl

8,737 posts

145 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Parker's financials are skewed a bit by the fact that he's from a wealthy family who have stood guarantee on his loans. I rather doubt the banks would have been quite so keen to extend him the finance on all that equipment if his parents hadn't done so.

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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rohrl said:
Parker's financials are skewed a bit by the fact that he's from a wealthy family who have stood guarantee on his loans. I rather doubt the banks would have been quite so keen to extend him the finance on all that equipment if his parents hadn't done so.
Despite how the programme makes it out, I think a lot of the equipment is provided gratis by Volvo and I wouldn't be surprised if the producers had a hand in arranging loans too. wink


uk_vette

3,336 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th December 2015
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Ayahuasca said:
I watched most of the first series and some of the second.

Where is it up to now ?

Half way through series 6

Kodi Genesis is your friend

vette


The series where they dredge up gold off the coast of Alaska is pretty good too

uk_vette

3,336 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th December 2015
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London424 said:
P-Jay said:
In years gone by I've always thought that Tony treated Parker the way he does for his own good, but now - when it comes to Parker at least, the guy's an ahole.
Good to see Parker was able to bend Tony over in the end though!
Are you talking about where Tony wants Gene, but Gene, who used to work for Parker, has a contract clause forbidding him from working for a competitor.
So Parker negotiates several more claims of Tony's land, in order to release Gene from the contract

All great stuff.

uk_vette

3,336 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th December 2015
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chrisgtx said:
I see Beets fired the two guys who were working the dredge, I can't see that going well as it seemed to take them a while how to work out running it.
I wonder if they were on a salary, or percentage?
I can't decide if I like tony or not, he's a character, but appears to treat people like dirt.
Nice to see Todd near enough on par with the feckless Hoffmanns with a fraction of the gear.
What do you mean ?
"Nice to see Todd near enough on par with the feckless Hoffmanns with a fraction of the gear."

Condi

17,188 posts

171 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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youngsyr said:
As much as we mock the Hoffmans, they've come a hell of a long way too in just a few years.
Hoffmans were quite well off before the program started.

And has already been said, they get paid a fee for appearing on the program, plus a discount (if not provided free) on equipment they use.

The earlier series where they went to the jungle must have cost them a fortune. To get out there, with the gear, spend money on claims, gear, fuel etc and they got nothing from memory, aside from a few small stones. That would have wiped out even some of the largest operators on the show had it been real, but Todd was back in the Klondike a few months later.

As much as its good viewing, dont for once think it shows the realities of mining!

youngsyr

14,742 posts

192 months

Sunday 20th December 2015
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Condi said:
youngsyr said:
As much as we mock the Hoffmans, they've come a hell of a long way too in just a few years.
Hoffmans were quite well off before the program started.

And has already been said, they get paid a fee for appearing on the program, plus a discount (if not provided free) on equipment they use.

The earlier series where they went to the jungle must have cost them a fortune. To get out there, with the gear, spend money on claims, gear, fuel etc and they got nothing from memory, aside from a few small stones. That would have wiped out even some of the largest operators on the show had it been real, but Todd was back in the Klondike a few months later.

As much as its good viewing, dont for once think it shows the realities of mining!
I'm well aware that it's not "real" mining - but they're on course to pull 2,700 Oz of gold out of the ground this season and have pulled over 200 Oz in a week - that is a serious operation for a bunch of amateurs, regardless of how they're funding it.