Royal Marines Commando School

[FourWheelDrift]

monthefish said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Who was paying for the Egyptian's training?

How much does it cost?

In 2011 "MoD figures show that training a Royal Marine from recruitment to graduation from Lympstone costs £54,000."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/832...

[monthefish]

FiF said:

monthefish said:

Crossflow Kid said:

....than get stuck in with a bull night?

FiF said:

..keeping stuff bulled.

Bull?

Have you never even heard of bulled boots?

No.

FiF said:

Generic term for cleaning and polishing kit plus your grot to within an inch of its life.

Ta.

[monthefish]

FourWheelDrift said:

monthefish said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Who was paying for the Egyptian's training?

How much does it cost?

In 2011 "MoD figures show that training a Royal Marine from recruitment to graduation from Lympstone costs £54,000."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/832...

Thanks.

Who pays for UK recruits? (The recruits themselves or is it MoD funded)

[anonymous-user]

monthefish said:

Thanks.

Who pays for UK recruits? (The recruits themselves or is it MoD funded)

I'm not sure many recruits into the forces would pay £54,000 for their own training.

Or are you suggesting it's some kind of loan?

[e600]

monthefish said:

FourWheelDrift said:

monthefish said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Who was paying for the Egyptian's training?

How much does it cost?

In 2011 "MoD figures show that training a Royal Marine from recruitment to graduation from Lympstone costs £54,000."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/832...

Thanks.

Who pays for UK recruits? (The recruits themselves or is it MoD funded)

UK taxpayer through HMG via MOD. Overseas cadets attending Sandhurst for example are funded via their country of origin. On completion however, they return to their country.

It would be interesting to know how an Egyptian could attend an MOD course, where would he serve post course completion? Perhaps he had dual nationality which classed him as eligible for the course and service post successful completion.

Edited by e600 on Wednesday 20th August 11:59

[98elise]

monthefish said:

FourWheelDrift said:

monthefish said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Who was paying for the Egyptian's training?

How much does it cost?

In 2011 "MoD figures show that training a Royal Marine from recruitment to graduation from Lympstone costs £54,000."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/832...

Thanks.

Who pays for UK recruits? (The recruits themselves or is it MoD funded)

My RN engineering training was nearly 5 years, I don't think they would have many military engineers if we had to pay for it!

[98elise]

monthefish said:

FiF said:

monthefish said:

Crossflow Kid said:

....than get stuck in with a bull night?

FiF said:

..keeping stuff bulled.

Bull?

Have you never even heard of bulled boots?

No.

FiF said:

Generic term for cleaning and polishing kit plus your grot to within an inch of its life.

Ta.

To put in in some context our drill boots were a dimpled leather. We were expected to polish the toecaps to a smooth shine. Imagine how much polishing you need to do to that. You would spend hours each evening building up layers and layers of polish to create a smooth finish.

[pingu393]

When I was leaving school (early 80s), we were told that it cost around £1M to fully train a Harrier pilot. It must be around £10M now, so £54k is a bargain.

[Zoobeef]

e600 said:

UK taxpayer through HMG via MOD. Overseas cadets attending Sandhurst for example are funded via their country of origin. On completion however, they return to their country.

It would be interesting to know how an Egyptian could attend an MOD course, where would he serve post course completion? Perhaps he had dual nationality which classed him as eligible for the course and service post successful completion.

Edited by e600 on Wednesday 20th August 11:59

You don't need duel nationality, anyone can join. In fact some some lads trying to get citizenship get delayed as a deployment to afghan doesn't count towards their time in the country, even though they are fighting for this country.

They will just be based and stationed in the same places as other marines.

[dai1983]

e600 said:

monthefish said:

FourWheelDrift said:

monthefish said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Who was paying for the Egyptian's training?

How much does it cost?

In 2011 "MoD figures show that training a Royal Marine from recruitment to graduation from Lympstone costs £54,000."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/832...

Thanks.

Who pays for UK recruits? (The recruits themselves or is it MoD funded)

UK taxpayer through HMG via MOD. Overseas cadets attending Sandhurst for example are funded via their country of origin. On completion however, they return to their country.

It would be interesting to know how an Egyptian could attend an MOD course, where would he serve post course completion? Perhaps he had dual nationality which classed him as eligible for the course and service post successful completion.

Edited by e600 on Wednesday 20th August 11:59

I've previously discussed with my colleagues how much we would have to be paid to do it all again. £100k is usually the minimum amount with some saying no amount of money would be sufficient.

As far as I know all recruits who pass out of CTC work as Royal Marines in 3 Cdo brigade. I assumed that he lived here (or somewhere else where they recruit from) and just joined up.

I know that different nations pay to have their officers trained at Sandhurst and they return home after training. I can't say that I've known of a similar thing with RM officer training but I wouldn't be surprised.

[anonymous-user]

FourWheelDrift said:

monthefish said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Who was paying for the Egyptian's training?

How much does it cost?

In 2011 "MoD figures show that training a Royal Marine from recruitment to graduation from Lympstone costs £54,000."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/832...

Remember that's Bootneck maths though, so probably add or drop a zero.

[e600]

Zoobeef said:

e600 said:

UK taxpayer through HMG via MOD. Overseas cadets attending Sandhurst for example are funded via their country of origin. On completion however, they return to their country.

It would be interesting to know how an Egyptian could attend an MOD course, where would he serve post course completion? Perhaps he had dual nationality which classed him as eligible for the course and service post successful completion.

Edited by e600 on Wednesday 20th August 11:59

You don't need duel nationality, anyone can join. In fact some some lads trying to get citizenship get delayed as a deployment to afghan doesn't count towards their time in the country, even though they are fighting for this country.

They will just be based and stationed in the same places as other marines.

I am aware that people can join from former Commenwealth countries as I have served with Fijians, Rhodesians and a guy from Barbados. I am unaware that just anybody could join HMF, with the possible exception of Ghurkhas and even then Ghurkhas have some form of different status.

[anonymous-user]

Zoobeef said:

You don't need duel nationality, anyone can join.

Anyone can apply to join.

Jolly Jack Tar website said:

To join the Royal Navy you will need to be a national of Britain, Ireland or the Commonwealth. If you have dual nationality, you can still join. But some roles have stricter requirements than others for security reasons.

If you’re a British national living abroad you can still apply. And if you don’t meet the residency criteria, don’t worry. You might still have the chance to join the Royal Navy on a short term security clearance until you reach the standard period of residency.

National service

If you have dual nationality you will have to provide written evidence that you’re not required for national service either now or in the future.

So, although there's the bit about serving on a limited clearance until residency is achieved, I'd be utterly stunned if the Booties were letting in people from Egypt of all places, without full vetting and clearance.
My money's on the lad having dual citizenship.

[acd80]

Zoobeef said:

You don't need duel nationality, anyone can join. In fact some some lads trying to get citizenship get delayed as a deployment to afghan doesn't count towards their time in the country, even though they are fighting for this country.

You're wrong. It does count towards residency time.

[Lost soul]

e600 said:

I am aware that people can join from former Commenwealth countries as I have served with Fijians, Rhodesians and a guy from Barbados. I am unaware that just anybody could join HMF, with the possible exception of Ghurkhas and even then Ghurkhas have some form of different status.

Just the other week there was a guy from Malta and a guy from some Caribbean country in the series

[Mr Trophy]

I've really enjoyed watching this.

I hope they do it again.

[anonymous-user]

acd80 said:

Zoobeef said:

You don't need duel nationality, anyone can join. In fact some some lads trying to get citizenship get delayed as a deployment to afghan doesn't count towards their time in the country, even though they are fighting for this country.

You're wrong. It does count towards residency time.

And it's Afghanistan not fecking "afgan".

[FiF]

Typically it's shortened to Ganners.

HTH



no connection to urban dictionary btw. That would be wacist.

[Zoobeef]

Crossflow Kid said:

And it's Afghanistan not fecking "afgan".

That place has sucked enough life out of me to call it what the fk I want. stty ahole of the world or Afghan. Both are correct.

Good to see you can't even spell my quoted word correctly though. Bellend.

[Fas1975]

Wasn't their a corporal in Ep 1 who was french? He may have had dual nationality, but he specifically called himself out as French in that particular episode, based on that, I thought anyone could apply a la French Foreign Legion, if you parade out, then you "owe" the country x years of service?