James May's Cars of the People

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Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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A lot of them were given in lieu of hard currency for foreign goods and services. They'd then be sold on in the west by the likes of Coca Cola to convert them into real money.

Although they were crap, they were presumably capable of operating in a Russian winter and would start in the damp and cold. Something many western cars of the time had problems with.

Toltec

7,161 posts

224 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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vixen1700 said:
Anybody else remember the 'modernised' Polski Fiat Polenez from the late '70s?
Thanks for helping me discover that the brain cells storing an image of one of those haven't decayed through lack of use.

XAF

131 posts

211 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Anyone else notice that the car they dropped was the '3000' mile one they filmed with? Just a right hand drive car in a similar colour but with different seats and a pair of number plates from Russia...

What's that? I need to get a life? Point taken, I'm off!!!

entropy

5,449 posts

204 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Did they show the boobies and vajazzles in full as this was originally on at 9pm? Its censored on iPlayer frown

ajprice

27,515 posts

197 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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entropy said:
Did they show the boobies and vajazzles in full as this was originally on at 9pm? Its censored on iPlayer frown
They were black boxed on the tv.

ClassicMotorNut

2,438 posts

139 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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I enjoyed it, but I agree with all the sentiments about the Lada dropping. I don't see the humour in being pointlessly destructive and least imaginative way possible.

The Hypno-Toad

12,287 posts

206 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Good programme I thought. Certainly will be watching the next ones. I even thought that the dropping the car from the crane served a purpose as it proved you sure as hell didn't want to have a front end smash in a Lada!!

Brought back memories for me though as two of the cars featured are lodged in memory for two of the most eventful journeys' I have had as a passenger.

Fiat 500 - Godalming to Donnington.
Fine on the way up apart from as we arrived the throttle pedal stuck open. For the journey back my friend jigged something up which worked but meant that we couldn't go flat out, which as we know was never quick in one of those anyway. Which would have been ok... If it then hadn't developed an oil leak as well, which dripped nice and slowly onto the exhaust.... which then blew the fumes back into the cabin.
So we had the choice of either choking to death on the oil fumes or driving back with the roof off in the middle of November.
Left at 17.00. Many stops later got back at 23-15. That was a looonnnggg day.

Lada Riva - M25.
It was my first time going round the M25 and my mate had just got his new company car, a lovely red Lada Riva Estate. I say it was his company car, he had inherited it from his predecessor who had been given a sum of cash and told to my himself a new car. So he bought the Riva and kept the result of the money for a motorbike. So my friend was told he had to drive this until he had worked for the company for a while and he would get something better in the future.
Before we set off to Hendon, my friend went into great detail as to what a piece of st this car was and on the M25 it went about proving it. Slow and clearly a struggle for my friend to keep on the straight and narrow, it would of been a nasty journey even without its one close to fatal flaw.
"We'll be ok as long as it doesn't rain,"
"What happens then?" I asked.
"Well it cuts out randomly and then won't restart for about 10 minutes,"
So guess what we ran into half way round the 25? A nice big Bertha sized downpour.
Never have the words,"No. No. Its gone again," held such dread as we gently coasted with no power or even hazard flashers over to the hard shoulder, hoping that no one would run into the back of us. Scary days.

tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Any show which plays the brilliant "Looking For Freedom" by David Hasselhoff has to be a good thing! biggrin

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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The Hoff FTW.

That massive Russian car factory employs 100,000 people apparently. It has over 90 miles of production lines and produces nearly one million cars a year.

Inertiatic

1,040 posts

191 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Good show, but from the trail it seems the infantile destruction of cars top gear deem as below them continues with the dropping of the lada and machine gunning a 2cv and r4.

The main part of the show was very interesting... Those bits are just embarrassing.

Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Watched it again on iPlayer last night - did anyone else notice the 3000mile Lada in Russia was LHD, and the one smashed up (looking like it was in the UK) was RHD?

I did think it would have been exceptionally nobbish to smash up a rare 3k mile example of any older car, however st, rather than simply nobbish to smash up a car in the name of humour full stop.

12TS

1,860 posts

211 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Vocal Minority said:
May did an interview on Chris Evans' show, and apparently it is part of an extended 'series plus 4 spin offs' contract that the BBC had with the makers of Top Gear, so they are part of the same 'franchise'. Hammond's Bond Cars was one spin off, these are the other three.
I enjoyed it, but I'd have liked it more it had been in the "May" style (Manlab, Toy thing etc.) rather than TG, you could almost hear Clarkson saying some of the script at times.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

183 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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12TS said:
I enjoyed it, but I'd have liked it more it had been in the "May" style (Manlab, Toy thing etc.) rather than TG, you could almost hear Clarkson saying some of the script at times.
Especially the beach buggy bit.

carinaman

21,326 posts

173 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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I've yet to watch this. This looks like it could be based on Drive On, the book by the late LJK Setright that I thought May finished, or was it another book by Setright about driving tales that May finished? Sunday was Setright's Birthday.

otolith

56,204 posts

205 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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I think Drive On was published before LJKS's death. Will dig my copy out and have a look.

daveenty

2,358 posts

211 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Kitchski said:
Watched it again on iPlayer last night - did anyone else notice the 3000mile Lada in Russia was LHD, and the one smashed up (looking like it was in the UK) was RHD?

I did think it would have been exceptionally nobbish to smash up a rare 3k mile example of any older car, however st, rather than simply nobbish to smash up a car in the name of humour full stop.
Someone did:

XAF on Monday said:
Anyone else notice that the car they dropped was the '3000' mile one they filmed with? Just a right hand drive car in a similar colour but with different seats and a pair of number plates from Russia...

What's that? I need to get a life? Point taken, I'm off!!!

coppice

8,624 posts

145 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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carinaman said:
I've yet to watch this. This looks like it could be based on Drive On, the book by the late LJK Setright that I thought May finished, or was it another book by Setright about driving tales that May finished? Sunday was Setright's Birthday.
If it was based on Drive On it would be 26 two hour programmes with no Lada destruction featured.It is a wonderful book as I am sure you know but is late night BBC4 material as 90% of the viewing public would be too thick and/or lazy to get it.
The book you are thinking of was Long Lane With Turnings which was vrey short autobiographical piece with input from James May. He is the one motoring presenter with the real mental heft to discuss technical and sociological stuff about cars and I just wish he'd bloody grow up on this effort - it doesn't need to appeal to 10 year olds with learning difficulties.

carinaman

21,326 posts

173 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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otolith said:
I think Drive On was published before LJKS's death. Will dig my copy out and have a look.
I think coppice has answered it. I was wrong.

shakotan

10,709 posts

197 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Pickled said:
I thought it was pretty good show, thougt that 124 looked lovely no mention of the yugo 45 which if I remember was another fiat based car (126?)

Wonder if the BBC did a block booking on the old rooftop test track it's been on 3 programmes I've watched this week, Italy unpacked, francesco's Italy and this!
Yugo 45 was very loosely based on the Fiat 127, but the body itself was unique, unlike the Lada which commenced with the original Fiat 124 tooling and then 'evolved' over the years.

DE15 CAT

355 posts

162 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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berlintaxi said:
nickwilcock said:
Not a bad programme (but if you're going to speak German, May, at least learn the pronunciation!)
On occasions he seemed to struggle with the correct pronunciation in English.
confusedAlways puzzled me why he pronounces was as WUZ & because as BECUZ. Anyone any idea, considering he is middle class but who many people describe as posh, it seems more of a working class pronunciation.