Grand Designs - New Series

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northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Zad said:
Crown property starts at high water mark doesn't it?
I'm pretty sure you're right, but would owning a house at the top of a cliff come with ownership of the cliff?

i.e. who "owns" the bit between where high tide mark ends and where the garden on this property begins?

I'd be interested to know - I've often wondered about stuff like this!

GnuBee

1,272 posts

216 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I wonder how much of a knock-on affect cliff protection would have just on the "small" scale he'd be talking about. We're not exactly looking at a project that would be 2 or 3 miles of coastal protection which you can easily see would have a dramatic affect.

As to the "me, me, me" remarks - why not? It's their house, they can do what they want, who else would they be building it for? their children seemed absolutely clear and, at least for TV, exhibited no shock, surprise etc.




Megaflow

9,453 posts

226 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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V8 Fettler said:
Has GD shown a converted fire station yet? Live above, lots of vehicle space, big doors (auto) for quick exits and a pole.

Next to a pub.
I like your style.

The Don of Croy

6,002 posts

160 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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northwest monkey said:
irocfan said:
oh no don't misunderstand me - I have got no issue with the council doing nothing... I do have an issue though with them not allowing him to do anything about it (100% at his own expense)
That's the problem though - messing about in one place will probably cause problems in another place. Also, I'd be very interested to know who actually "owns" a cliff - where does his land end I wonder?

The other thing to consider is who would be liable if it collapsed - would you want to be held responsible if it slipped onto some kids messing about near the bottom?

I wouldn't touch this house if it was free.
I'm talking out of my hat here, but, I'd be very surprised if the Environment Agency (or similar) didn't wade in with a list of a million and one things that must be tested before you can plonk them where they will contaminate either land, water, or sea (or all three). Not to mention the effects elsewhere, and therefore liability to be accepted...

Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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I watched this last night too - took me a while to work out where it was, then I spotted Criccieth castle in the local town shots and looked back at this thread and found the blog. The blog stops in 2013, well before it was finished, which is a shame. I'd like to see their reaction to the show.

Out of interest I did a quick Land Registry map search to see if the cliff is included in their land. It isn't; the cliff directly below them and the beach below that belongs to the same owner as the fields to the west of the property (presumably the National Trust). There is a registered title for what appears to be the Crown's property between the mean low and high water lines, separate to the title to the cliff and beach.

In relation to rivers there's a rule whereby a river forming the boundary to land always continues to form the boundary, even when it shifts course; I suspect there's a similar rule regarding coastal erosion. Even if they continued to own the same triangle of land, when it's below sea level it will be fairly academic.

Edited by Jobbo on Monday 8th September 10:06

BoRED S2upid

19,719 posts

241 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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V8 Fettler said:
Has GD shown a converted fire station yet? Live above, lots of vehicle space, big doors (auto) for quick exits and a pole.

Next to a pub.
I know of one for sale and have been having similar thoughts it's in deepest darkest wales though.

monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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Adam B said:
pidsy said:
so fed up with these sterile white, glass shiny kitchened buildings. none of them look like homes - they alllook like doctors surgeries.

how can you have a lazy day at home in a house that looks like a feature in the design museum!?

i'd be terrified to put a cup down without a coaster or even use the kitchen for cooking. these people either love the cold feeling or want it to look all design perfect for when kevin turns up, then as soon as the cameras leave, fill the place with comfy cushions and homely stuff!
Tastes differ. I cannot stand clutter, fussiness of design or small "cosy" rooms and so simple clean lines, open plan spaces and limited use of bright colours appeals to me.

Plus these are new builds, so there is going to be a natural bias to more modern design, if you want old fashioned character you buy an old place.

Something like that place would be my ideal home, some small details were not my taste and I would want it 20% bigger (extra bedroom, plus a large separate lounge separate from the kitchen/dining/living area
I'd agree with that.

I think the only thing is missing is a windowless TV/cinema room where you can sit in your pyjamas and watch TV in extreme comfort.

pidsy

8,008 posts

158 months

Monday 8th September 2014
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dont get me wrong - as a design statement and engineering feat, its pretty incredible.

i loved the level of finish and some of the features (stone wall, glass etc) but i just feel like there isnt any homelyness there. a bit too cold for me.

rufusruffcutt

1,539 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Episode 2, Padstow, Cornwall.

Spoilers on this link:
http://www.realhomesmagazine.co.uk/completed-proje...

irocfan

40,577 posts

191 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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Laurel Green

30,783 posts

233 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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irocfan said:
yikes

Pistom

4,979 posts

160 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Some would argue that is not as crazy as the project by the nutty couple in North Wales if you consider the geology of the cliff there.

Now that's what I call a Grand Design!

Laurel Green

30,783 posts

233 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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I wonder how much the window-cleaner charges?

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

155 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Laurel Green said:
I wonder how much the window-cleaner charges?
Probably an arm and a couple of legs when he hits the bottom.

ajprice

27,548 posts

197 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Lower budget this time, wooden top floor on an existing build. No internal supports!

anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Heads-up - we're back on!

Patch1875

4,895 posts

133 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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He seems odd

Laurel Green

30,783 posts

233 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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He's going to need help with installing those big planks of engineered wood.

Megaflow

9,453 posts

226 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Unique construction material. Tiny budget. Ambitious design.

This will end in tears...

Salterns

650 posts

119 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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I was sympathetic until I found out he's an architect. biggrin