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woodypup59 said:
BIRMA said:
I am sure those two events will rear their heads as it's bound to get messy.
I do hope so. I was waiting for the reveal on how he faked the Paternity test but I guess we know that now.BIRMA said:
woodypup59 said:
BIRMA said:
I am sure those two events will rear their heads as it's bound to get messy.
I do hope so. I was waiting for the reveal on how he faked the Paternity test but I guess we know that now.Maybe he was a really nice guy and off the radio she was giving it large on the strident female agenda and he was forced to behave like that.
Hmmmmmmm.
Nah, the guy's a nasty piece of work with control-freakery running like rabies through his veins, hanging's too good for him.
I know the scriptwriters will want to stretch this out (another year has been mentioned in the press) but once the rozzers speak to Rob's ex-wife you'd think they'd get a better picture of his attitude.
In the meantime we'll have Helen charged, more statements damning her (Susan Carter running her effing mouth off again), and possibly another spell of bulimia/anorexia/depression just to get us nicely aware of all the issues prevalent in today's society.
My money is on Ian the chef making a character-saving intervention thereby building bridges in their relationship once more. Happy endings all round (except for Rob and his parents).
In the meantime we'll have Helen charged, more statements damning her (Susan Carter running her effing mouth off again), and possibly another spell of bulimia/anorexia/depression just to get us nicely aware of all the issues prevalent in today's society.
My money is on Ian the chef making a character-saving intervention thereby building bridges in their relationship once more. Happy endings all round (except for Rob and his parents).
The Don of Croy said:
I know the scriptwriters will want to stretch this out (another year has been mentioned in the press) but once the rozzers speak to Rob's ex-wife you'd think they'd get a better picture of his attitude.
In the meantime we'll have Helen charged, more statements damning her (Susan Carter running her effing mouth off again), and possibly another spell of bulimia/anorexia/depression just to get us nicely aware of all the issues prevalent in today's society.
My money is on Ian the chef making a character-saving intervention thereby building bridges in their relationship once more. Happy endings all round (except for Rob and his parents).
^^^Tardis Inhabitant^^^In the meantime we'll have Helen charged, more statements damning her (Susan Carter running her effing mouth off again), and possibly another spell of bulimia/anorexia/depression just to get us nicely aware of all the issues prevalent in today's society.
My money is on Ian the chef making a character-saving intervention thereby building bridges in their relationship once more. Happy endings all round (except for Rob and his parents).
So how are we all getting on with the everyday tale of farming folk at the minute?
After Ursula and Rob's antics were reported back to me on Sunday ( i was on a train back from the Marathon so thought best not to listen in should 'the rage' strike...) I have now avoided listening to it this week.
The Mrs is still trying to hold with and is reporting back to me but now i am finding that 19:02 to 19:15 find me with urgent tasks to do outside or taking a dump.
Have to say that when i was told about the Henry situation developing I told the Mrs what would happen if they chose to take it to court. Personally i would have been far more likely to have dealt with that first hand.
It is really pissing me off that they have still not seemed to have go people talking to each other. By no i would have expected Kirsty to have said far more than she has to Pat and, Schula has gone AWOL and sure as s
t in Pat and Tony's shoes i would have had a PI find Jess and be talking to her.
As for Helen. I can't be sure but just get a very strong feeling that it would be highly unlikely that she would still be being so calmed up over it all. When she hears of the Henry situation i expect her to go into memory overdrive but all this is really pissing me off.
After Ursula and Rob's antics were reported back to me on Sunday ( i was on a train back from the Marathon so thought best not to listen in should 'the rage' strike...) I have now avoided listening to it this week.
The Mrs is still trying to hold with and is reporting back to me but now i am finding that 19:02 to 19:15 find me with urgent tasks to do outside or taking a dump.
Have to say that when i was told about the Henry situation developing I told the Mrs what would happen if they chose to take it to court. Personally i would have been far more likely to have dealt with that first hand.
It is really pissing me off that they have still not seemed to have go people talking to each other. By no i would have expected Kirsty to have said far more than she has to Pat and, Schula has gone AWOL and sure as s
t in Pat and Tony's shoes i would have had a PI find Jess and be talking to her.As for Helen. I can't be sure but just get a very strong feeling that it would be highly unlikely that she would still be being so calmed up over it all. When she hears of the Henry situation i expect her to go into memory overdrive but all this is really pissing me off.
The Don of Croy said:
whilst just down the road David and Ruth can barley afford to pay daughter on their £7.5 million farm. It's all bonkers.
That's quite realistic, my Dad knows about these things so I quizzed him about it when the valuation came out. Did some sums based on the farm in his village, the EU subsidies available, milk/meat/cereal prices and compared to value of the land etc and the yield was awful. I couldn't get to the bottom of why farmers would sit on millions of quid while working all the hours going and living relatively modestly beyond that they're not making any more land and sentiment.
First. The cops have Helen in custody, they will have her phone/s and have taken the house phone details and will be in possession of the fact she called the abused wife phone line. There is enough detail on the phone and the records kept by such help lines that they will have by now spoken to the person Helen spoke to or at least arranged an interview. Any judge will free such a person from any problems regarding confidentiality by dint of the fact that the helpline employee need not be told the name of the person who called and the notes can be released providing that the name is not given her, confidentiality is maintained.
That assumes that the cops are not stupid and do their job with reasonable proficiency. Hmmm.
Armed with that, the knowledge that Kirsty gave that number to her and the concerns on that front the entire picture would shift very rapidly to something being very wrong within that home.
But it's soap these days and common-sense has left the writers hand long since. Shame.
That assumes that the cops are not stupid and do their job with reasonable proficiency. Hmmm.
Armed with that, the knowledge that Kirsty gave that number to her and the concerns on that front the entire picture would shift very rapidly to something being very wrong within that home.
But it's soap these days and common-sense has left the writers hand long since. Shame.
Edited by RottenIcons on Thursday 28th April 13:00
RottenIcons said:
But it's soap these days and common-sense has left the writers hand long since. Shame.
Very sadly that seems to be the case. There are so many crumbs that no one has even started to pick up on that, if this were my sister, I would have been over like pooh on a blanket.Heck 30 minutes open conversation between Tom and Kirsty would kick start most of those. I also can't get my head round why Ian hasn't pitched in yet either. Okay so he thinks that Helen held out on him over Adam's infidelity but this is the sort of thing you have to put aside the small and medium size s
t for and stand up and be counted. I accept that most dramas have more plot holes than a Welsh road has pot holes but AAARRRGGGGHHH!!!!!
Now something that would be far more edifying the sudden and unexplained disappearance overnight of Rob and Susan Carter - that would make a great who dun it that you could run for a few years, and without the need to be constrained by silly little things like how the Police would really investigate this incident...
Oh BTW the next step will see Henry sent to foster care once the defence is formalised.
Although it's undoubtedly dramatic, it's just another overwrought soap from my perspective.
Many years ago - well nearly 30 - me goodwife and I used to watch 'enders. Every episode. Fitted in with our daily routine (both working, no ankle biters, eat din-dins, and then slump in front of the telly etc). After 18 months we'd had our fill of human misery - it just gets stale after a while.
The Archers fits our current routine - usually just after dinner has been finished and I'm clearing up, while others complete homework, practice piano, etc etc - but crucially I can get on whilst listening. But I don't really want to hear moaning/crying/gnashing of teeth every blinking night. By all means flood the village, bring forth Jack Woolleys spawn-of-Satan daughter or any of the psychopathic Horrobin brood but this nightly cry-fest gets on my boobingtons.
And the reason is simple - all too often when 'real life' challenges one of the central characters some dreadfully thin plot device rescues them from their folly (like the organic farm majicking up full time jobs for all and sundry) and life goes on. This current saga has legs, marathon ones, so the prospect of Helen's descent into mental instability seems all too possible, taking her parents and God knows who with it. Dramatic, yes, but do I want to join them on that journey?
Right now some people will have noticed Spring is arriving - a very busy time in farming (allegedly). Coupled with variable weather - late frosts laying waste to young shoots and heavy rain showers doing what it does - you'd think there would be a fair few farming tales to be had. But no, we'd rather join all the other soaps in racing to dissect the underbelly of society.
And what news of the pending EU vote - another topical item that is missing? Could have had a story or two out of that...
Many years ago - well nearly 30 - me goodwife and I used to watch 'enders. Every episode. Fitted in with our daily routine (both working, no ankle biters, eat din-dins, and then slump in front of the telly etc). After 18 months we'd had our fill of human misery - it just gets stale after a while.
The Archers fits our current routine - usually just after dinner has been finished and I'm clearing up, while others complete homework, practice piano, etc etc - but crucially I can get on whilst listening. But I don't really want to hear moaning/crying/gnashing of teeth every blinking night. By all means flood the village, bring forth Jack Woolleys spawn-of-Satan daughter or any of the psychopathic Horrobin brood but this nightly cry-fest gets on my boobingtons.
And the reason is simple - all too often when 'real life' challenges one of the central characters some dreadfully thin plot device rescues them from their folly (like the organic farm majicking up full time jobs for all and sundry) and life goes on. This current saga has legs, marathon ones, so the prospect of Helen's descent into mental instability seems all too possible, taking her parents and God knows who with it. Dramatic, yes, but do I want to join them on that journey?
Right now some people will have noticed Spring is arriving - a very busy time in farming (allegedly). Coupled with variable weather - late frosts laying waste to young shoots and heavy rain showers doing what it does - you'd think there would be a fair few farming tales to be had. But no, we'd rather join all the other soaps in racing to dissect the underbelly of society.
And what news of the pending EU vote - another topical item that is missing? Could have had a story or two out of that...
Europa1 said:
I see the trial starts next week.
...and it generates it's own news item on R4 Today prog this am too. The narrow gap between fiction and (all too weird) real life gets more blurred every day.My money is on Titchenor taking a lead on 98% of trial days, but a late run on the rails by Helen to take a technical win thanks to a surprise last gasp arrival of 'new evidence'.
Who saw the brief's squeeze 'Max' as another female? More twists than a jar of barley sweets.
I used to listen to The Archers every day as I was usually in the car at least one of the broadcast times but due to change of work circumstances hadn't listened for about a year and a half. I'd heard all the media attention given to the Rob/Helen plot line but not heard any of it in the program.
Just picked up on it again over the past few days and really don't like it. Probably won't listen again . The program seems to have caught the 'we want ratings so it has to be exiting' disease that many good TV and Radio programs suffer from in their old age. Won't be long before it goes down the route of Emmerdale where every second inhabitant is either a murderer or victim and we have an annual air disaster to kill off the excess cast members.
Just picked up on it again over the past few days and really don't like it. Probably won't listen again . The program seems to have caught the 'we want ratings so it has to be exiting' disease that many good TV and Radio programs suffer from in their old age. Won't be long before it goes down the route of Emmerdale where every second inhabitant is either a murderer or victim and we have an annual air disaster to kill off the excess cast members.
The Don of Croy said:
Who saw the brief's squeeze 'Max' as another female? More twists than a jar of barley sweets.
Surprised me too.I think Rob's brief/the prosecution is going to make Ian's life unpleasant in Court by dragging up the stuff with Adam and Charlie just out of pure maliciousness.
My guess/hope is a not guilty verdict and Rob some how going down for contempt of court by being a d
head under oath. They will obviously spin it out to the last minute with evidence from Jess and the Helpline being last ditch. Anna will have repeated crises of confidence. It will be interesting to see if Henry is in court and to what degree he is used as a witness.
Edited by blueg33 on Tuesday 30th August 14:51
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