Educating the east end ch4

[CoolHands]

on now

[MiniMan64]

This chap needs to get his st together. Jesus!

[AlexRS2782]

I know it's the East End and we shouldn't stereotype but what the hell were some of the parents thinking when they named their kids? Acacia, Tawnee?

So far all these girls just appear to be stereotypical, self obsessed and with a "me, me, me" attitude.

As for Tawnee - Christ on a bike she's a mouthy bh to put it mildly. As for her being a "star", I'm not sure exactly what in.

Edit - oh dear poor Tawnee, her dreams are down the pan but yet her friend referenced earlier gets in - i wonder why that was

This series has already shown (more than the last 2) just how much school has changed since I left Sixth Form in '98. You certainly wouldn't have got away with even a small percentage of what these kids have got away with so far, without any form of punishment, etc.

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Thursday 4th September 21:38

[anonymous-user]

You know you have spelt Tawny wrong unless it was irony of course

[CoolHands]

I liked mr bipisham or whatever his name was!

and yes teenagers are generally self-obsessed me me me!

[AlexRS2782]

speedyguy said:

You know you have spelt Tawny wrong unless it was irony of course

It was intended (for a change )

[SGirl]

Is this kind of behaviour typical of a secondary school nowadays? Just curious. I liked Educating Essex and I really enjoyed Educating Yorkshire, but I'm finding it hard to warm to Frederick Bremer school so far.

[over_the_hill]

CoolHands said:

I liked mr bipisham or whatever his name was!

and yes teenagers are generally self-obsessed me me me!

I know it's only bant-ahh
but now it's time for work-ahh

[escargot]

Caught up with the first episode last night. Isn't as good as Educating Yorkshire (so far) in my opinion.

What's with a Year 9 (who is what, 13-14?) having a tongue piercing??

[nicanary]

I really don't understand how these teachers have that much patience. The kids are little scrotes, a sad indication of non-existent parentng. The behaviour in the classroom in this series is far worse than the Essex and Yorkshire programmes.

They're almost feral. Is some of this "put on" for the camera , do you think? It's almost impossible for someone of my generation (school in the 60s) to comprehend. Even kids from underprivileged backgrounds (and there were plenty in my primary school) knew how to behave in front of their elders. They inherently knew to show respect.

This lot act like they're pumped full of sugar and haven't been reprimanded by their parents at any time in their life. (I sort of excuse that little Pakistani lad - very sad story, his grandad doing his best, and the teachers, I thought, being very sympathetic.) But, on the whole, if I'd been a teacher there, I'd have been sacked for thumping them.

[CoolHands]

^ in some of the lessons shown last night the kids were generally calmer than in my own lessons. In the first episode they were more OTT I think that's just the class dynamic. Some are calmer, some are full-on. So no it's not put on, that's generally how they are (or worse!).

[SGirl]

Last night's episode was a bit of an eye-opener in one regard. Kids standing for head boy/head girl.

What really amazed me was when they asked the headteacher about the kids standing for the position. "Joshua, who's he?" Because this boy hasn't been in trouble or anything, she didn't know who he was. Surely it's the headteacher's business to at least be aware of every student at her school? Or am I being old-fashioned?

[RedWhiteMonkey]

SGirl said:

Last night's episode was a bit of an eye-opener in one regard. Kids standing for head boy/head girl.

What really amazed me was when they asked the headteacher about the kids standing for the position. "Joshua, who's he?" Because this boy hasn't been in trouble or anything, she didn't know who he was. Surely it's the headteacher's business to at least be aware of every student at her school? Or am I being old-fashioned?

I get what you're saying but some schools have circa 1000 pupils, it would be impossible to know them all.

[baldy1926]

Good so far tonight with chris a autistic pupil.

[MiniMan64]

Definitely not enjoyed this series as much. I think they've focused on the pupils much more (too much) and missed the staff, what they put in and the staff-pupil relationships that made the last series so good.

[CedGTV]

My heart bleeds for Christopher.

I dread to think of him out in the big bad world.

[SGirl]

MiniMan64 said:

Definitely not enjoyed this series as much. I think they've focused on the pupils much more (too much) and missed the staff, what they put in and the staff-pupil relationships that made the last series so good.

Agreed. I've been watching every episode, but to be honest I was vaguely relieved that last night's episode was the last because now I don't have to watch it again.

It think part of the trouble is that - with the exception of Christopher - there's not a huge amount of variation in the students they show. Normal kids just getting on with their education don't make good TV, I suppose. I was fed up of seeing those gobby girls featured in every show! Then there was the bright lad with confidence issues who was fairly engaging, but the rest came across as stroppy and out of control. That girl last night - what was she, 15? And she had a tattoo up her arm!

There was definitely a lack of "teacher time", too. They tried to show the staff-student relationships - every week there was one student that one teacher was investing a lot of effort in - but they glossed over it too much. I couldn't even remember half the names of the teachers with this series.

I really felt for Christopher last night, especially when he was so anxious because of the noise level in the classroom. It's great that the school are working hard to prepare him for leaving school, though. Maybe the TV company were hoping Christopher would be this season's Musharraf, but I think Musharraf was a bit of a one-off.

Ah well. I hope the next series is better. If there is a next one.