Point Break (2015)

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Matt_N

8,902 posts

202 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Maybe not a classic but it is a film I look back on with fond memories, I was heavily into surfing at the time of release and the combination of that with the action made it one of 'the' films of my childhood.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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DJRC said:
Since when was Point Break a classic film?? It was just a standard 90s A/B film.
Since it was made... wink

Best film Bigelow's made imo.

Sure it's just an action thriller, but it's a GREAT action thriller.

Classic films don't HAVE to be Citizen Kane or (insert your classic film of choice), they can just be great examples of a genre and, imvho, Point Break is right up there in it's genre.

Hollywood ARE lazy, just recycling films and who can think of an example where the remake's better? I'll not bother withholding judgement, this one won't be better than the original.

M.

PS I'd replace Reeves with Danny Dyer and call it "Point Break ma f'ing leg", set it in Lewisham and replace surfing with parcour.



Edited by marcosgt on Tuesday 16th September 08:21

MacW

1,349 posts

176 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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DJFish said:
FFS! Is nothing sacred?
Yes, cash.


blueg33

35,901 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Asterix said:
DJRC said:
Since when was Point Break a classic film?? It was just a standard 90s A/B film.
Obviously subjective but for me it's a standout film of the era with a great story and a top cast.

One of my favourites.
And one of the best filmed chase scenes ever IMO - on foot through all through gardens

I agree, great film, why remake it? why not let the younger generations watch the original?

Edited by blueg33 on Tuesday 16th September 10:30

Oakey

27,567 posts

216 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Will there be dog throwing in the remake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewFE4ymvn1o

downstairs

3,558 posts

217 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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blueg33 said:
Asterix said:
DJRC said:
Since when was Point Break a classic film?? It was just a standard 90s A/B film.
Obviously subjective but for me it's a standout film of the era with a great story and a top cast.

One of my favourites.
And one of the best filmed chase scenes ever IMO - on foot through all through gardens

I agree, great film, why remake it? why not let the younger generations watch the original?

Edited by blueg33 on Tuesday 16th September 10:30
They still can watch the original, if they want. Maybe they'll seek it out once they've seen the remake?

Here's a thought: when Mel Gibson's Payback was released in 1999, did you choose to watch Point Blank instead? Or did you stick with the remake/Payback because it felt more modern and cool and wasn't some creaky old Lee Marvin thing? Maybe you've watched Point Blank since to compare them, but I bet you still like Payback just as much.

Remakes have always happened. And you can always stick with the original if you prefer it.

blueg33

35,901 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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downstairs said:
They still can watch the original, if they want. Maybe they'll seek it out once they've seen the remake?

Here's a thought: when Mel Gibson's Payback was released in 1999, did you choose to watch Point Blank instead? Or did you stick with the remake/Payback because it felt more modern and cool and wasn't some creaky old Lee Marvin thing? Maybe you've watched Point Blank since to compare them, but I bet you still like Payback just as much.

Remakes have always happened. And you can always stick with the original if you prefer it.
Didnt watch either TBH

Point Break just seems too recent to need s remake and I am not sure what they would be adding? There is virtually no CGI/visual effect necessary, the surfing sequences "get" surfing. So all the remake will be doing is updating hairstyles?



rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Swayze makes Point Break. Ok so the hot chick is cool too...the freefall and chase scenes are fantastic too and Gary Busey. Actually...there's not much that isn't good about it...other than Reaves....

DJFish

5,921 posts

263 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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"Quarterback punk!"

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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blueg33 said:
Didnt watch either TBH

Point Break just seems too recent to need a remake and I am not sure what they would be adding? There is virtually no CGI/visual effect necessary, the surfing sequences "get" surfing. So all the remake will be doing is updating hairstyles?
They won't be "adding" anything...except current current celebs that are "in" with today's younger movie-goers.

Of course it doesn't NEED a remake, but then you could say that about any film. Someone, somewhere, will think the original is the best film ever, the goal of Hollywood however, is to get customers through the door, and an easy way to do that is to remake a popular film with current actors.

As I said on another thread, remakes are not for fans of the originals, they're not for people to compare, they're for today's movie-goers that are young enough not to have seen, or care, about the original.

Gary Busey is 70, Keanu is 50 and Swayze is dead. Point Break was made 23 years ago, meaning if you remember it first time around/from your youth, then you're likely to be in your early thirties at least, which means there's a whole generation of movie-goers that won't have seen the original/wouldn't have a clue who Busey is, probably aren't too familiar with Swayze, and are fully aware Keanu is 50 years old!

Wait until they get around to Ghostbusters, because it WILL happen.



blueg33

35,901 posts

224 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Centurion07 said:
They won't be "adding" anything...except current current celebs that are "in" with today's younger movie-goers.

Of course it doesn't NEED a remake, but then you could say that about any film. Someone, somewhere, will think the original is the best film ever, the goal of Hollywood however, is to get customers through the door, and an easy way to do that is to remake a popular film with current actors.

As I said on another thread, remakes are not for fans of the originals, they're not for people to compare, they're for today's movie-goers that are young enough not to have seen, or care, about the original.

Gary Busey is 70, Keanu is 50 and Swayze is dead. Point Break was made 23 years ago, meaning if you remember it first time around/from your youth, then you're likely to be in your early thirties at least, which means there's a whole generation of movie-goers that won't have seen the original/wouldn't have a clue who Busey is, probably aren't too familiar with Swayze, and are fully aware Keanu is 50 years old!

Wait until they get around to Ghostbusters, because it WILL happen.
As I said, they will be adding current hairstyles smile

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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blueg33 said:
As I said, they will be adding current hairstyles smile
Exactly. It's what will bring a new audience through the door, regardless of what fans of the original think, which is all Hollywood cares about.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Centurion07 said:
Point Break was made 23 years ago...which means there's a whole generation of movie-goers that won't have seen the original/wouldn't have a clue who Busey is, probably aren't too familiar with Swayze, and are fully aware Keanu is 50 years old!
Mmmm - So they NEVER watch films on TV or Netflix or anything?

I didn't see Point Break at the cinema, but I've seen it a few times now.

I don't think Lawrence of Arabia would be better if it was filmed today with Danny Dyer in the lead role and 50 Cent as one of the Arab leaders, but no doubt some idiot accountant in Hollywood thinks it's a good idea.

And... Point Blank is much, much better than Payback... I didn't go and search out Point Blank after seeing Payback, I thought "I've seen this film" when I watched Payback...

Same as I didn't have to go and find "Get Carter" after hearing that Sylvester Stallone was in a remake of it...

It does make you wonder if in 20 years time someone will be doing a remake of "Robert Pattison's Point Break" or "Vin Diesel's Citizen Kane", because there's nothing original to remake...

M.

Edited by marcosgt on Wednesday 17th September 16:35

BryanC

1,107 posts

238 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Point Blank +1

Payback 0
but a nice cameo from James Coburn.

Nobody can match Lee Marvin. "I want my money. I want my $93,000"

I would just mention that I also discovered another Point Blank - a French film made 2011 and while it shares the same title, it is completely different and is a cracking night's entertainment. Worth a shot from Amazon at a bargain £2.75.

B.

Bebee

4,679 posts

225 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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HD Adam said:
Some films just shouldn't be remade.

What's next? The Godfather?
scratchchin I'll check my budget coffee

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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marcosgt said:
Mmmm - So they NEVER watch films on TV or Netflix or anything?
I didn't say they COULDN'T have seen the original, merely pointed out the fact there is a good chance they won't have.

marcosgt said:
I don't think Lawrence of Arabia would be better if it was filmed today with Danny Dyer in the lead role and 50 Cent as one of the Arab leaders.
Fair enough, but as I pointed out, YOU are not the intended audience. The intended audience for that film would be Danny Dyer & Fiddy Cent fans and they WOULD think it's a great film, bearing in mind they are unlikely to have seen the original, and even if they had, the actors in the original are irrelevant to them today.