Harry's Garage - YouTube

[Rumdoodle]

I've always thought a GT4 would be great fun to tear about in. I've driven plenty of GTB/GTS but never one of these. The only thing is, I can't get on with mid-engined stuff. You look out of the windscreen and the world is just.....right there in front of you. I find it a bit alarming.

[Olivera]

I never liked any of the Ferrari made Dinos, but I'll take the Fiat one:

[Caddyshack]

ChocolateFrog said:

Not for me.

It reminds of the TopGear supercars for £10k. I bet its really slow compared to modern cars. Probably hardwork maintenance wise too without genuinely beautiful classic looks, just another generic looking 70's Gandini wedge.



And those ergonomics

How are they hard work maintenance wise? They are pretty basic cars and many DIY them.

The top gear 10k thing was typical top gear with "engineered in" peril. I spoke with the owner of one of the cars and they assured me things were made to go wrong.

[E90_M3Ross]

Caddyshack said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Not for me.

It reminds of the TopGear supercars for £10k. I bet its really slow compared to modern cars. Probably hardwork maintenance wise too without genuinely beautiful classic looks, just another generic looking 70's Gandini wedge.



And those ergonomics

How are they hard work maintenance wise? They are pretty basic cars and many DIY them.

The top gear 10k thing was typical top gear with "engineered in" peril. I spoke with the owner of one of the cars and they assured me things were made to go wrong.

Yeah, maybe so, but it was a cracking episode!

[Venisonpie]

There's one in stock at a local classic dealer and looks sharp to me, the one in the vid seemed to drive well enough. The engine was a bit underwhelming though.

And agree on the wipers, they would grate.

[suffolk009]

RichB said:

on't get me wrong, what i would call a proper Dino I.e the 206 and 246 are lovely but the 308 GT4 is not in the same league looks wise.

I would love to own a 246 GTB in an interesting colour. Alas, the prices...

[daqinggregg]

“I bet it’s really slow compared to modern cars.”

Yep, it’s a slow old donkey.

Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph).

All that from, a tiny naturally aspirated 1990.64 cc engine (albeit a V8, singing its self all the way to 7700 rpm), 50 years ago.

[AJLintern]

I wonder if the wipers are a spline out? Looking at pics of other cars they do appear to be a bit flatter when parked

[ChocolateFrog]

daqinggregg said:

“I bet it’s really slow compared to modern cars.”

Yep, it’s a slow old donkey.

Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph).

All that from, a tiny naturally aspirated 1990.64 cc engine (albeit a V8, singing its self all the way to 7700 rpm), 50 years ago.

Are those figures not for the 3 litre?

[RicksAlfas]

daqinggregg said:

“I bet it’s really slow compared to modern cars.”

Yep, it’s a slow old donkey.

Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph).

All that from, a tiny naturally aspirated 1990.64 cc engine (albeit a V8, singing its self all the way to 7700 rpm), 50 years ago.

This one was a 308, not a 208.
2926.90cc

[Pistom]

If you're considering speed and ergonomics though, it's missing the point of cars like this.

I know I do.

Most if not all of Harry's cars have at least a single underlying feature which makes them worthy of a space in a car collection. I don't think this car would even get on the considered list. Not when they were new and certainly not now.

I don't dislike the car but it's holds little appeal to me.

I suspect many will feel the same.

[ChocolateFrog]

Caddyshack said:

ChocolateFrog said:

Not for me.

It reminds of the TopGear supercars for £10k. I bet its really slow compared to modern cars. Probably hardwork maintenance wise too without genuinely beautiful classic looks, just another generic looking 70's Gandini wedge.



And those ergonomics

How are they hard work maintenance wise? They are pretty basic cars and many DIY them.

The top gear 10k thing was typical top gear with "engineered in" peril. I spoke with the owner of one of the cars and they assured me things were made to go wrong.

I just assumed there would would be some engine out belts to do every 2 or 3 years and if you need anything more than an oil filter you'd have to deal with shrugging Italians like Harry had to with that Countach gearbox cog fiasco.

But maybe they're a doodle to work on. I just don't know who has £50k and decides that's the car I'm buying.

Must be an age thing, 70's cars do almost nothing for me. None of the looks of 60's metal, none of the performance of 80/90's cars.

Even the Countach looks like a horrendously built kitcar in my eyes but atleast that has a V12.

[daqinggregg]

ChocolateFrog said:

Are those figures not for the 3 litre?

Nope, 2 litre.

Compared to the three-litre version, top speed dropped from 155mph to 137mph.

The 0-62mph time rose from 6.6 to 7.7 seconds.

[Red9zero]

AJLintern said:

I wonder if the wipers are a spline out? Looking at pics of other cars they do appear to be a bit flatter when parked

That was my first thought. Might have made them slightly less obvious.

[Wills2]

Not in red but other than that I think they are a lovely thing, IF all ponies are still there or can be put back in it should have around 190-200hp/tonne so in gear performance will be more than enough and should be better than the 0-60 suggests, I love the wedge styling and pop up lights and think they suit a non traditional colour (not red)

[WPA]

From another thread:

williamp said:

Lovely car. A compact 2+2 with a 3 litre V8 and a boot.

Reminds me of this photo



...from the days when you didnt need to order a red Ferrari..!!

[Dashnine]

Red9zero said:

AJLintern said:

I wonder if the wipers are a spline out? Looking at pics of other cars they do appear to be a bit flatter when parked

That was my first thought. Might have made them slightly less obvious.

Perhaps a fastidious previous owner preferred them horizontal but higher, rather than lower but at an angle!

[Purosangue]

WPA said:

From another thread:

williamp said:

Lovely car. A compact 2+2 with a 3 litre V8 and a boot.

Reminds me of this photo

[Img]http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/510257/19598006/1343311278967/GT420factory20pic20Medium.jpg?token=kzMd1WNMSBkNPifR6PZzTY9Np6M%3D[/thumb]

...from the days when you didnt need to order a red Ferrari..!!

surprising how few red are on the production line , and how refreshing to see some vibrant colours ..........If that was a normal run of the mill car production line today , it would be all greys

[AstonZagato]

WPA said:

From another thread:

williamp said:

Lovely car. A compact 2+2 with a 3 litre V8 and a boot.

Reminds me of this photo

[Img]http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/510257/19598006/1343311278967/GT420factory20pic20Medium.jpg?token=kzMd1WNMSBkNPifR6PZzTY9Np6M%3D[/thumb]

...from the days when you didnt need to order a red Ferrari..!!

I maintain that most Ferraris look better when NOT in red. Some even look all types of wrong in red.

[Greg_B]

The seating position looked rather uncomfortable. Not being able to sit up straight would be a problem for some people. Having to slouch down the way Harry had to means you need arms like a chimpanzee. Of course, as he stated that was the traditional Italian car driving position back in the day, but I never quite understood it. Also, the seat rocked alarmingly when Harry leaned back, making me wonder how robust its construction was.