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The 255 bhp / 1150 kg power to weight ratio is a sweet spot on the road.
Not so much power that you can't use it all, but you do have to put your foot down, all the way down, to get the most out of it.
The weight means light enough for the bends, but not so light that it's horribly unrefined.
Direct with no power steering
No ABS, it's all done on pedal feel, and there's a lot of it.
It's not boring blue or gloomy grey.
It's not the best looking Ferrari but it is a Ferrari and not a Ford.
Not so much power that you can't use it all, but you do have to put your foot down, all the way down, to get the most out of it.
The weight means light enough for the bends, but not so light that it's horribly unrefined.
Direct with no power steering
No ABS, it's all done on pedal feel, and there's a lot of it.
It's not boring blue or gloomy grey.
It's not the best looking Ferrari but it is a Ferrari and not a Ford.
Wills2 said:
Not in red but other than that I think they are a lovely thing, IF all ponies are still there or can be put back in it should have around 190-200hp/tonne so in gear performance will be more than enough and should be better than the 0-60 suggests, I love the wedge styling and pop up lights and think they suit a non traditional colour (not red)
I love period Ferraris in Marone Metallizzato, which I think is the colour in the picture. There was even a Testarossa specced in it, which looked stunning. G Thang said:
RichB said:
G Thang said:
<clip> It's not the best looking Ferrari but it is a Ferrari and not a Ford.
I don't get this 'it's a Ferrari' thing. A poor car is a poor car. 
As an aside, they are really appreciated by the 'Fast Ford' fraternity these days - of which I'm not one, I hasten to add. But people go all weak at the knees because 'it's a Ferrari' even if it's not that good.
tim0409 said:
Wills2 said:
Not in red but other than that I think they are a lovely thing, IF all ponies are still there or can be put back in it should have around 190-200hp/tonne so in gear performance will be more than enough and should be better than the 0-60 suggests, I love the wedge styling and pop up lights and think they suit a non traditional colour (not red)
I love period Ferraris in Marone Metallizzato, which I think is the colour in the picture. There was even a Testarossa specced in it, which looked stunning. RichB said:
I don't get your point? I know what Ford Escort looks like.
As an aside, they are really appreciated by the 'Fast Ford' fraternity these days - of which I'm not one, I hasten to add. But people go all weak at the knees because 'it's a Ferrari' even if it's not that good.
It looks better.As an aside, they are really appreciated by the 'Fast Ford' fraternity these days - of which I'm not one, I hasten to add. But people go all weak at the knees because 'it's a Ferrari' even if it's not that good.
G Thang said:
The 255 bhp / 1150 kg power to weight ratio is a sweet spot on the road.
Not so much power that you can't use it all, but you do have to put your foot down, all the way down, to get the most out of it.
The weight means light enough for the bends, but not so light that it's horribly unrefined.
Direct with no power steering
No ABS, it's all done on pedal feel, and there's a lot of it.
It's not boring blue or gloomy grey.
It's not the best looking Ferrari but it is a Ferrari and not a Ford.
Well said Not so much power that you can't use it all, but you do have to put your foot down, all the way down, to get the most out of it.
The weight means light enough for the bends, but not so light that it's horribly unrefined.
Direct with no power steering
No ABS, it's all done on pedal feel, and there's a lot of it.
It's not boring blue or gloomy grey.
It's not the best looking Ferrari but it is a Ferrari and not a Ford.
Similar power and weight to a A110 isn't it? With with extra seats, and a manual gear box!
G Thang said:
The 255 bhp / 1150 kg power to weight ratio is a sweet spot on the road.
Not so much power that you can't use it all, but you do have to put your foot down, all the way down, to get the most out of it.
The weight means light enough for the bends, but not so light that it's horribly unrefined.
Direct with no power steering
No ABS, it's all done on pedal feel, and there's a lot of it.
It's not boring blue or gloomy grey.
It's not the best looking Ferrari but it is a Ferrari and not a Ford.
Only slightly more power (when new, if it was all there) and the same weight as a recent MX5. Many other similarities.Not so much power that you can't use it all, but you do have to put your foot down, all the way down, to get the most out of it.
The weight means light enough for the bends, but not so light that it's horribly unrefined.
Direct with no power steering
No ABS, it's all done on pedal feel, and there's a lot of it.
It's not boring blue or gloomy grey.
It's not the best looking Ferrari but it is a Ferrari and not a Ford.
Caddyshack said:
Llew said:
Really enjoyed that vid! I think the car featured represents reasonable value at £65k. It looks a nice one!
Compared to the silly prices some classics go for it does seem a bit of a bargain. It’s a shame an old classic can’t still be £10-20k for something like this.It really isn't a special, nice, interesting, important or valuable object. It's a curio in the same bucket as the Allegro et al. Someone will buy it for no other reason than the badge making it look more important than a Ford because for some the badge is all that matters. When viewed on its own merits it just isn't anything more than a 1970s Barratt starter home with a Roman portico stuck on the front.
G Thang said:
RichB said:
I don't get your point? I know what Ford Escort looks like.
As an aside, they are really appreciated by the 'Fast Ford' fraternity these days - of which I'm not one, I hasten to add. But people go all weak at the knees because 'it's a Ferrari' even if it's not that good.
It looks better.As an aside, they are really appreciated by the 'Fast Ford' fraternity these days - of which I'm not one, I hasten to add. But people go all weak at the knees because 'it's a Ferrari' even if it's not that good.
DonkeyApple said:
£65 is still far too high for what is an object that is not a particularly nice thing to drive, not a particularly nice thing to own, not a particularly nice thing to look at. It's a car that almost no one looks at and lists after and yet it commands what is a very high price for no other reason than it association with other things that are more desirable and valuable. At £65k it's actually quite a sad object as it implies the purchase could not think of any other object they'd rather have which could imply a depressing level of brand fanaticism.
It really isn't a special, nice, interesting, important or valuable object. It's a curio in the same bucket as the Allegro et al. Someone will buy it for no other reason than the badge making it look more important than a Ford because for some the badge is all that matters. When viewed on its own merits it just isn't anything more than a 1970s Barratt starter home with a Roman portico stuck on the front.
It’s almost as if you didn’t watch Harry’s latest video. It really isn't a special, nice, interesting, important or valuable object. It's a curio in the same bucket as the Allegro et al. Someone will buy it for no other reason than the badge making it look more important than a Ford because for some the badge is all that matters. When viewed on its own merits it just isn't anything more than a 1970s Barratt starter home with a Roman portico stuck on the front.
Was there a bet you were trying to win by comparing it to an Allegro? Deary me.
Forester1965 said:
I was surprisingly underwhelmed by the engine sound. Prefer the 308GTB in that respect.
Same engine?If you watch Jack's Covid purchase of a 308GTS you will see he spends ages trying to get a better sound out of it. I think he was expecting it to sound like an American V8, rather than two four cylinder's almost in harmony.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-JmG4958QS...
Leithen said:
DonkeyApple said:
£65 is still far too high for what is an object that is not a particularly nice thing to drive, not a particularly nice thing to own, not a particularly nice thing to look at. It's a car that almost no one looks at and lists after and yet it commands what is a very high price for no other reason than it association with other things that are more desirable and valuable. At £65k it's actually quite a sad object as it implies the purchase could not think of any other object they'd rather have which could imply a depressing level of brand fanaticism.
It really isn't a special, nice, interesting, important or valuable object. It's a curio in the same bucket as the Allegro et al. Someone will buy it for no other reason than the badge making it look more important than a Ford because for some the badge is all that matters. When viewed on its own merits it just isn't anything more than a 1970s Barratt starter home with a Roman portico stuck on the front.
It’s almost as if you didn’t watch Harry’s latest video. It really isn't a special, nice, interesting, important or valuable object. It's a curio in the same bucket as the Allegro et al. Someone will buy it for no other reason than the badge making it look more important than a Ford because for some the badge is all that matters. When viewed on its own merits it just isn't anything more than a 1970s Barratt starter home with a Roman portico stuck on the front.
Was there a bet you were trying to win by comparing it to an Allegro? Deary me.
I actually quite like the shape and it has a 70s cool about it. I would quite like a 73 car as it was the year I was born, I have a Nov 73 Rolex, I like the fact it is the same age as me.
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