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E90_M3Ross said:
Frankychops said:
AlexS said:
ArgonautX said:
Frankychops said:
So he prefers the 750s over the 296, people then moan about it.
Its likely the 750s will be more reliable also. Depreciation, well the 296 is dropping fast also. Not to mention 300kg lighter and more torque.
Hm, I think 296 is primarily a Artura competitor. Its likely the 750s will be more reliable also. Depreciation, well the 296 is dropping fast also. Not to mention 300kg lighter and more torque.
DonkeyApple said:
I certainly get more fun from travelling slower and having to do more work. At least we're spoiled for choice these days for cars. During the first part of the video I found myself thinking something like a GR Yaris might be more fun as you'd have to do more work and focus more on coming out of the corners with the right rpm.
Horses for courses, love the car but maybe overkill for that sort of trip?
I have a friend with a GR Yaris. He says it is so capable it's a bit numb to drive. Apparently it's impossible to unsettle in a road corner at any sane speed.Horses for courses, love the car but maybe overkill for that sort of trip?
DuncanM said:
My GT86 is a sweet spot for my current needs, it's a slow car, but driving it fast is a joy on the right roads. It would be perfect with a little more power, but I don't want to mess about with forced induction, and I have my Cerbera for that anyway.
Exactly. If the sun's shining and I'm going along B roads here in Suffolk then I'll take the Eunos. If I'm on a european road trip I'll use my wife's Boxster. When I get to the Swiss mountain passes I always regret not having bought my Elise.loudlashadjuster said:
DonkeyApple said:
JeremyH5 said:
With all this talk of the flat plane V8 McLaren use, I realise I don’t know why a manufacturer would choose one over an alternative that sounds better. Are they more efficient, better balanced? Can anyone educate me on this please?
Used to be about getting better balance out of the v8 design. 964Cup said:
Another thing not shown by Harry in his video because of modern "mores" but the reality is that empty roads are rare and being able safely to get round a lumbering Dutch campervan on the very short straights between hairpins is crucial if you are actually to enjoy yourself.
Not true ime in that massive, central part of France that Harry went through, at this time of year. I was surprised to see a couple of camper vans, but nevertheless, in much/most of central massif and French alps, the roads can be utterly, utterly deserted. Same with much of central Spain I reckon too, for possibly a wider spread of time per annum.
And not confined to short straights - as with much of Harry's film, the roads can be lovely and flowing. This is why I was surprised by Harry's trip to Majorca in a previous vlog, those roads were rubbish for fast driving imo. He paid money to leave mainland Spain and went somewhere where everything is much more confined, I was really surprised about that.
thegreenhell said:
Now we know Gordon Murray's inspiration for the T33...
I do like that T33. Was listening to it again at Goodwood over the weekend and that's an engine with character that adds to the car. And it's not even 5 times the price of the 750. The Wells thing looks good enough to me. Mid engined 4 pot built by a lunatic in a shed. Could be quite a bit of fun and looks quite pretty.
heebeegeetee said:
Not true ime in that massive, central part of France that Harry went through, at this time of year. I was surprised to see a couple of camper vans, but nevertheless, in much/most of central massif and French alps, the roads can be utterly, utterly deserted.
Same with much of central Spain I reckon too, for possibly a wider spread of time per annum.
And not confined to short straights - as with much of Harry's film, the roads can be lovely and flowing. This is why I was surprised by Harry's trip to Majorca in a previous vlog, those roads were rubbish for fast driving imo. He paid money to leave mainland Spain and went somewhere where everything is much more confined, I was really surprised about that.
Sure, but at this time of year the weather is rarely conducive. Certainly not to a 750 on Corsas - that will have been another feature of this video that wasn't well addressed: 750s are traction-limited at the best of times and Pirellis are not a good tyre in the damp; I've run all of my McLarens on Michelin PS4S for that reason. Same with much of central Spain I reckon too, for possibly a wider spread of time per annum.
And not confined to short straights - as with much of Harry's film, the roads can be lovely and flowing. This is why I was surprised by Harry's trip to Majorca in a previous vlog, those roads were rubbish for fast driving imo. He paid money to leave mainland Spain and went somewhere where everything is much more confined, I was really surprised about that.
Even in late September when we usually do our big continental trip, there's more traffic than you might expect. Certainly making progress on the route of the Targa Florio this time around required navigating any number of local Pandas plus the usual lorries and campervans. 320hp in a slightly lardy old 911 didn't half leave me wishing for a McLaren, for all the heeling, toeing and general "authentic, analogue" driving I was getting done.
The joy of both France and Spain is that they have huge tracts which are all but empty. If it weren't for Madrid there would really be nothing in the middle of Spain. And while Sicily is a little similar the roads are smaller, the locals more demented and the potholes would make a British pothole whinger recalibrate. I had a house in Sicily and one year I rented a 360 in Monaco and had it shipped over for a bit of fun!!!! That's when I learned they also used a special type of tarmac with a 50% Teflon blend.
suffolk009 said:
DonkeyApple said:
I certainly get more fun from travelling slower and having to do more work. At least we're spoiled for choice these days for cars. During the first part of the video I found myself thinking something like a GR Yaris might be more fun as you'd have to do more work and focus more on coming out of the corners with the right rpm.
Horses for courses, love the car but maybe overkill for that sort of trip?
I have a friend with a GR Yaris. He says it is so capable it's a bit numb to drive. Apparently it's impossible to unsettle in a road corner at any sane speed.Horses for courses, love the car but maybe overkill for that sort of trip?
Unreal said:
Why would you want to unsettle a high performance car on a public road?
well, if you want to have some fun, on a deserted road or even a track. Cars that let go at lower speeds are usually more manageable when they do go.The best low speed cars are older simple RWD cars like mk1 Escorts and like... skinny tyres, live axle at the rear, low weight and usually not much power. Modern cars, even if they're not high performance, usually have too much grip and electronic aids + weight to be fun at low speeds.
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