Harry's Garage - YouTube
Discussion
TheLordJohn said:
For the genuine love of it?
Yes of course Harry makes them for the genuine love of it, thats clear to see and comes across on screen but then of course someone else has to sit through every minute of footage and pick out the best bits. That takes time and money. His last vid was 30 minutes long and it didn't feel in anyway overly long or badly edited because someone who's trained in editing has done it. That would have took ages and that's where the cost is in the videos. And yes I'm going to pledge.
DuckAvenger said:
DonkeyApple said:
What a shame.
I guess an issue that he will always have is that the really big view numbers come from the youth demographic and they tend to want to see wheel spinning and certainly not hear interesting facts and details.
I would argue that a channel such as this attracts higher net worth eyeballs so must be worth finding a genuine sponsor where Harry announces them in a suitable manner and verbally explains the importance of their contribution etc.
Even Seinfeld needs a sponsor.I guess an issue that he will always have is that the really big view numbers come from the youth demographic and they tend to want to see wheel spinning and certainly not hear interesting facts and details.
I would argue that a channel such as this attracts higher net worth eyeballs so must be worth finding a genuine sponsor where Harry announces them in a suitable manner and verbally explains the importance of their contribution etc.
Surely he must have know this. He surely did somekind of demographic how things might work out. No? Oh Dear..
We can also guess that as a man who has spent a large chunk of his career owning a physical media publisher that he knows by heart what each cm in a magazine or webpage is worth so has got a small surprise that 100k YT views are worth less than a few pints and a bag of scratchings.
mcrdave said:
Yes of course Harry makes them for the genuine love of it, thats clear to see and comes across on screen but then of course someone else has to sit through every minute of footage and pick out the best bits. That takes time and money. His last vid was 30 minutes long and it didn't feel in anyway overly long or badly edited because someone who's trained in editing has done it. That would have took ages and that's where the cost is in the videos.
And yes I'm going to pledge.
Many thanks for pledging and for summing up my dilemma almost perfectly. And yes I'm going to pledge.
The only way to turn my self-videod vids into something watchable is to get them properly edited. The recent Countach vid took three days to edit and that costs way more than the $28.50 earned from YouTube to do, hence my grumble. There's no real incentive to keep doing vids if each one is going to lose a chunk of money. And yet I love YouTube, it's a wonderful platform that doesn't charge to host your content, makes it freely available to a global audience and then pays you a share of any ad revenue your video generates at the end of the month.
Brilliant, except it's got too popular for its own good and the amount of revenue it earns every day is getting spread too thinly across all the providers of its content. If you self-vid and then edit your own short video clips to a few million subscribers, it still works brilliantly. If you try to do what Chris Harris and I do and create longer, more in depth videos that take a lot of editing, it doesn't. That's where Patreon comes in.
I think the answer will be to generate a multitude of revenue streams for each video and that includes sponsorship. Both Silverstone Auctions and Footman James have kindly sponsored some of my videos already and they will continue to do so. But when I saw how little YouTube revenue the Countach video had generated, it actually annoyed me, hence why I joined up to Patreon.
Anyway, rant over and massive thanks for all your generous support so far. Now, I'm off to plan the next video..
M4SER said:
Many thanks for pledging and for summing up my dilemma almost perfectly.
The only way to turn my self-videod vids into something watchable is to get them properly edited. The recent Countach vid took three days to edit and that costs way more than the $28.50 earned from YouTube to do, hence my grumble. There's no real incentive to keep doing vids if each one is going to lose a chunk of money. And yet I love YouTube, it's a wonderful platform that doesn't charge to host your content, makes it freely available to a global audience and then pays you a share of any ad revenue your video generates at the end of the month.
Brilliant, except it's got too popular for its own good and the amount of revenue it earns every day is getting spread too thinly across all the providers of its content. If you self-vid and then edit your own short video clips to a few million subscribers, it still works brilliantly. If you try to do what Chris Harris and I do and create longer, more in depth videos that take a lot of editing, it doesn't. That's where Patreon comes in.
I think the answer will be to generate a multitude of revenue streams for each video and that includes sponsorship. Both Silverstone Auctions and Footman James have kindly sponsored some of my videos already and they will continue to do so. But when I saw how little YouTube revenue the Countach video had generated, it actually annoyed me, hence why I joined up to Patreon.
Anyway, rant over and massive thanks for all your generous support so far. Now, I'm off to plan the next video..
Evening Harry. I've pinged you a Tweet but of be happy to add to the sponsorship aspect. I thoroughly enjoy the vids and think we can do something to assist. The only way to turn my self-videod vids into something watchable is to get them properly edited. The recent Countach vid took three days to edit and that costs way more than the $28.50 earned from YouTube to do, hence my grumble. There's no real incentive to keep doing vids if each one is going to lose a chunk of money. And yet I love YouTube, it's a wonderful platform that doesn't charge to host your content, makes it freely available to a global audience and then pays you a share of any ad revenue your video generates at the end of the month.
Brilliant, except it's got too popular for its own good and the amount of revenue it earns every day is getting spread too thinly across all the providers of its content. If you self-vid and then edit your own short video clips to a few million subscribers, it still works brilliantly. If you try to do what Chris Harris and I do and create longer, more in depth videos that take a lot of editing, it doesn't. That's where Patreon comes in.
I think the answer will be to generate a multitude of revenue streams for each video and that includes sponsorship. Both Silverstone Auctions and Footman James have kindly sponsored some of my videos already and they will continue to do so. But when I saw how little YouTube revenue the Countach video had generated, it actually annoyed me, hence why I joined up to Patreon.
Anyway, rant over and massive thanks for all your generous support so far. Now, I'm off to plan the next video..
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Is there any way in which someone who is willing to sponsor the video with a logo for a couple of seconds could do so?
I'm thinking, if each video costs (let's guess on the numbers) a grand to produce, you would only need 4 businesses to sponsor you £250 each month to break even.
One video per month and you only need to find just under 50 like minded businessmen to help you long each year. Would that amount be enough?
Is there any way in which someone who is willing to sponsor the video with a logo for a couple of seconds could do so?
I'm thinking, if each video costs (let's guess on the numbers) a grand to produce, you would only need 4 businesses to sponsor you £250 each month to break even.
One video per month and you only need to find just under 50 like minded businessmen to help you long each year. Would that amount be enough?
PhilGT2008 said:
Thanks Harry for taking the time to come on here and explain. Clearly a lot more editing goes into these videos than I ever thought. They are fantastic. Will pledge.
It's a bit like the mailchimp email bursts I do for my business I guess. I'd never pay a marketing company to do it, but in reality it takes me around 4 hours (or just over) to create a good one from start to finish, not including the time spent looking at the ceiling unable to sleep at 4am thinking about it.To be fair I enjoy the creativity of it and my OCD tells me no one could totally create "my vision" just the way I want it......
But in reality I'd probably be better off ignoring them and paying someone a few hundred quid to get the job done while I made some more bloody money!
I guessing H has a few more important things to do than creating these things for is to enjoy so I'd before than happy to put a few quid his way to carry on watching them considering the length and insight involved, plus let others do the same.
M4SER said:
Many thanks for pledging and for summing up my dilemma almost perfectly.
The only way to turn my self-videod vids into something watchable is to get them properly edited. The recent Countach vid took three days to edit and that costs way more than the $28.50 earned from YouTube to do, hence my grumble. There's no real incentive to keep doing vids if each one is going to lose a chunk of money. And yet I love YouTube, it's a wonderful platform that doesn't charge to host your content, makes it freely available to a global audience and then pays you a share of any ad revenue your video generates at the end of the month.
Brilliant, except it's got too popular for its own good and the amount of revenue it earns every day is getting spread too thinly across all the providers of its content. If you self-vid and then edit your own short video clips to a few million subscribers, it still works brilliantly. If you try to do what Chris Harris and I do and create longer, more in depth videos that take a lot of editing, it doesn't. That's where Patreon comes in.
I think the answer will be to generate a multitude of revenue streams for each video and that includes sponsorship. Both Silverstone Auctions and Footman James have kindly sponsored some of my videos already and they will continue to do so. But when I saw how little YouTube revenue the Countach video had generated, it actually annoyed me, hence why I joined up to Patreon.
Anyway, rant over and massive thanks for all your generous support so far. Now, I'm off to plan the next video..
The video's have always been very high quality, for what is esstentially a home shot film, I can now see why, 3 days of editing. I was also slightly confused by the original comment about they needed to cover the costs, and was slightly confused where the costs was, all becomes clear.The only way to turn my self-videod vids into something watchable is to get them properly edited. The recent Countach vid took three days to edit and that costs way more than the $28.50 earned from YouTube to do, hence my grumble. There's no real incentive to keep doing vids if each one is going to lose a chunk of money. And yet I love YouTube, it's a wonderful platform that doesn't charge to host your content, makes it freely available to a global audience and then pays you a share of any ad revenue your video generates at the end of the month.
Brilliant, except it's got too popular for its own good and the amount of revenue it earns every day is getting spread too thinly across all the providers of its content. If you self-vid and then edit your own short video clips to a few million subscribers, it still works brilliantly. If you try to do what Chris Harris and I do and create longer, more in depth videos that take a lot of editing, it doesn't. That's where Patreon comes in.
I think the answer will be to generate a multitude of revenue streams for each video and that includes sponsorship. Both Silverstone Auctions and Footman James have kindly sponsored some of my videos already and they will continue to do so. But when I saw how little YouTube revenue the Countach video had generated, it actually annoyed me, hence why I joined up to Patreon.
Anyway, rant over and massive thanks for all your generous support so far. Now, I'm off to plan the next video..
The problem with payment is people will now expect something approaching regular content. That said, I'll chip in anyway.
Megaflow said:
M4SER said:
Many thanks for pledging and for summing up my dilemma almost perfectly.
The only way to turn my self-videod vids into something watchable is to get them properly edited. The recent Countach vid took three days to edit and that costs way more than the $28.50 earned from YouTube to do, hence my grumble. There's no real incentive to keep doing vids if each one is going to lose a chunk of money. And yet I love YouTube, it's a wonderful platform that doesn't charge to host your content, makes it freely available to a global audience and then pays you a share of any ad revenue your video generates at the end of the month.
Brilliant, except it's got too popular for its own good and the amount of revenue it earns every day is getting spread too thinly across all the providers of its content. If you self-vid and then edit your own short video clips to a few million subscribers, it still works brilliantly. If you try to do what Chris Harris and I do and create longer, more in depth videos that take a lot of editing, it doesn't. That's where Patreon comes in.
I think the answer will be to generate a multitude of revenue streams for each video and that includes sponsorship. Both Silverstone Auctions and Footman James have kindly sponsored some of my videos already and they will continue to do so. But when I saw how little YouTube revenue the Countach video had generated, it actually annoyed me, hence why I joined up to Patreon.
Anyway, rant over and massive thanks for all your generous support so far. Now, I'm off to plan the next video..
The video's have always been very high quality, for what is esstentially a home shot film, I can now see why, 3 days of editing. I was also slightly confused by the original comment about they needed to cover the costs, and was slightly confused where the costs was, all becomes clear.The only way to turn my self-videod vids into something watchable is to get them properly edited. The recent Countach vid took three days to edit and that costs way more than the $28.50 earned from YouTube to do, hence my grumble. There's no real incentive to keep doing vids if each one is going to lose a chunk of money. And yet I love YouTube, it's a wonderful platform that doesn't charge to host your content, makes it freely available to a global audience and then pays you a share of any ad revenue your video generates at the end of the month.
Brilliant, except it's got too popular for its own good and the amount of revenue it earns every day is getting spread too thinly across all the providers of its content. If you self-vid and then edit your own short video clips to a few million subscribers, it still works brilliantly. If you try to do what Chris Harris and I do and create longer, more in depth videos that take a lot of editing, it doesn't. That's where Patreon comes in.
I think the answer will be to generate a multitude of revenue streams for each video and that includes sponsorship. Both Silverstone Auctions and Footman James have kindly sponsored some of my videos already and they will continue to do so. But when I saw how little YouTube revenue the Countach video had generated, it actually annoyed me, hence why I joined up to Patreon.
Anyway, rant over and massive thanks for all your generous support so far. Now, I'm off to plan the next video..
The problem with payment is people will now expect something approaching regular content. That said, I'll chip in anyway.
Maybe drop a link on the end of every video for people to pay for the content. I'd happily chuck a £1 in, which if everyone did, brilliant. Or even just 10% happy days, or 1% will cover the cost (roughly).
My only gripe is that you need to do more, love watching them, but think my link to the Integrale and Clio Trophy vids are wearing out
With the upmost respect, it is a little naive to think that a platform as dominant as YouTube is going to net you decent returns from adverts when there is no upfront cost to host content on the site. Paying someone else (presumably a professional) to edit one video over a period of three days is of course going to lead to substantial losses when YouTube was originally conceived for amateurs who do it all themselves.
Love the videos, but I had thought the economics were quite obvious really.
Love the videos, but I had thought the economics were quite obvious really.
Mike22233 said:
TheLordJohn said:
For the genuine love of it?
ThisA few grand a year cost wouldn't bother me if I could afford anything like his collection
http://jalopnik.com/how-money-is-not-made-in-autoj...
It's like saying a professional footballer should play for free once he has enough money, then go and play for a local team instead and sub the team so they can afford to run it
I'm surprised (and a little disappointed) that the economics come into it at all. He's loaded, seems to enjoy making them and sharing his opinion/interest/passion and he's also boosting his profile (not sure if that's something he'd care about).
Lot's of people make (arguably better quality, certainly in terms of production and editing) videos on YouTube for the love of doing so. I don't suppose taxtherich or whatever they are called cover their costs when churning up fields in Ferrari's. They do it for the attention/something to do.
It seems a shame money is an issue when he is obviously wealthy. Maybe he should consider it a hobby rather than a business venture. He probably writes off all his costs against his tax bill anyway.
Lot's of people make (arguably better quality, certainly in terms of production and editing) videos on YouTube for the love of doing so. I don't suppose taxtherich or whatever they are called cover their costs when churning up fields in Ferrari's. They do it for the attention/something to do.
It seems a shame money is an issue when he is obviously wealthy. Maybe he should consider it a hobby rather than a business venture. He probably writes off all his costs against his tax bill anyway.
Escy said:
I'm surprised (and a little disappointed) that the economics come into it at all. He's loaded, seems to enjoy making them and sharing his opinion/interest/passion and he's also boosting his profile (not sure if that's something he'd care about).
Lot's of people make (arguably better quality, certainly in terms of production and editing) videos on YouTube for the love of doing so. I don't suppose taxtherich or whatever they are called cover their costs when churning up fields in Ferrari's. They do it for the attention/something to do.
It seems a shame money is an issue when he is obviously wealthy. Maybe he should consider it a hobby rather than a business venture. He probably writes off all his costs against his tax bill anyway.
Thank god for some sense.Lot's of people make (arguably better quality, certainly in terms of production and editing) videos on YouTube for the love of doing so. I don't suppose taxtherich or whatever they are called cover their costs when churning up fields in Ferrari's. They do it for the attention/something to do.
It seems a shame money is an issue when he is obviously wealthy. Maybe he should consider it a hobby rather than a business venture. He probably writes off all his costs against his tax bill anyway.
I would like to think I'd be happy to suck up some of the costs should I be in such a wonderful position. To say it's irrelevant that he is wealthy is nonsense.
I love the videos by the way.
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