The 'but why would they do that, it makes no sense' thread
Discussion
The Don of Croy said:
And the number of times otherwise boringly reliable cars suddenly choose to get damp plugs because someone needs to getaway fast, but magically the engine fires just as the baddies get the door handle within reach...
Absolutely! When was the last time any modern car failed to start first time?Also I would like to add: jumping through glass - be it windows, office doors, shop fronts. Hardly any run up needed, arms in front of face and through you go with no cuts. Maybe do a forward roll in the glass as well, get up and start running.
If I was to try to jump through my office door - single big pane of glass - I can guarantee a broken nose and bruised forehead...not me powering through it in a cascade of glass and then running off down the corridor- no I will still be inside the office with concussion.
Really wound me up in the latest Star Trek when Kahn leaps through a glass door whilst being chased by Spock - Oh right in the 24th century they have reverted to non-safety glass have they? I don't think so.
How come Jason Borne can leap from an opposing building and go smashing through a window (including a wooden frame!) without a scrape when most of us can't pick up a broken glass with out cutting ourselves?
Its just a lazy scriptwriters cliché, have they ever tried to jump through a window? No, if they had they would be dead or just bruised because they smacked in to it bounced off and lay dazed on the floor. Idiots!
To be fair, Kahn was supposed to be superhuman.
But you're right, and the glass always shatters like car glass, as opposed to real glass that would leave sharp dangly bits you'd shred yourself on (with the exception of the end of Ghost or any other film where the character has to die by glass).
But you're right, and the glass always shatters like car glass, as opposed to real glass that would leave sharp dangly bits you'd shred yourself on (with the exception of the end of Ghost or any other film where the character has to die by glass).
Oakey said:
To be fair, Kahn was supposed to be superhuman.
But you're right, and the glass always shatters like car glass, as opposed to real glass that would leave sharp dangly bits you'd shred yourself on (with the exception of the end of Ghost or any other film where the character has to die by glass).
Its all safety stuff these days - it does actually shatter like car glass but is two sheets bonded together. You could take a hammer to most of it and it wont break.But you're right, and the glass always shatters like car glass, as opposed to real glass that would leave sharp dangly bits you'd shred yourself on (with the exception of the end of Ghost or any other film where the character has to die by glass).
Even if Kahn was superhuman he would have bounced off, he just cannot have enough energy and mass to go straight through (even assuming that no advances in glass are made in the next 400 years!).
Older stuff- think wooden framed single glazed - does leave horrible jagged edges and you will get cut to ribbons I would think.
I just wonder why writers come up with this stuff time after time.
Strange, I can suspend disbelief enough to enjoy most of a film but its just these things that you know don't work in reality that wind me up!
See also; hiding behind a sofa that magically absorbs bullets or how an overturned table in a bar is always bulletproof. The same bullets that ricochet off car bodywork in a spray of sparks and don't make a hole.
Anyway I must dash as I've just been shot in the shoulder so I'm going to find a vet to patch me up and then I'll be able to fight again tomorrow; probably in a deserted warehouse where I will get my head royally kicked in but suddenly find the strength to knock my opponent out just as the Police arrive.
Oakey said:
But you're right, and the glass always shatters like car glass, as opposed to real glass that would leave sharp dangly bits you'd shred yourself on (with the exception of the end of Ghost or any other film where the character has to die by glass).
Mythbusters tested this. Or, rather, they tested "two guys carrying a pane of glass and a car drives through it". The results were quite surprising. jdw100 said:
Do tell....
Adam built human analogs from foam rubber covered by plastic sheeting, with red liquid “blood” between the two (to make injuries easy to detect) and supported by plastic tubing. He and Jamie chose three types of glass for testing: tempered, laminated, and ordinary plate glass, each 0.25 inches (6.4 mm) thick. With a sheet of glass held in a vertical frame between two analogs, and using a car with a reinforced windshield to protect themselves, they drove into the glass at 30 miles per hour (48 km/h). The plate glass shattered into shards that inflicted a small number of slash wounds on one analog, while the other one was not injured. The laminated glass broke into several large sheets and did not inflict any injuries; the tempered glass broke into many small fragments that caused multiple injuries to both analogs. Since the workers were at high risk of being wounded by the flying glass, Adam and Jamie classified the myth as busted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2014_sea...
So, interestingly, the large shards from the plate glass were less damaging than the spray of small fragments from the tempered glass.
JonRB said:
Adam built human analogs from foam rubber covered by plastic sheeting, with red liquid “blood” between the two (to make injuries easy to detect) and supported by plastic tubing. He and Jamie chose three types of glass for testing: tempered, laminated, and ordinary plate glass, each 0.25 inches (6.4 mm) thick. With a sheet of glass held in a vertical frame between two analogs, and using a car with a reinforced windshield to protect themselves, they drove into the glass at 30 miles per hour (48 km/h).
The plate glass shattered into shards that inflicted a small number of slash wounds on one analog, while the other one was not injured. The laminated glass broke into several large sheets and did not inflict any injuries; the tempered glass broke into many small fragments that caused multiple injuries to both analogs. Since the workers were at high risk of being wounded by the flying glass, Adam and Jamie classified the myth as busted.
Very interesting - thanks!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2014_sea...
So, interestingly, the large shards from the plate glass were less damaging than the spray of small fragments from the tempered glass.
The plate glass shattered into shards that inflicted a small number of slash wounds on one analog, while the other one was not injured. The laminated glass broke into several large sheets and did not inflict any injuries; the tempered glass broke into many small fragments that caused multiple injuries to both analogs. Since the workers were at high risk of being wounded by the flying glass, Adam and Jamie classified the myth as busted.
Very interesting - thanks!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters_(2014_sea...
So, interestingly, the large shards from the plate glass were less damaging than the spray of small fragments from the tempered glass.
honest_delboy said:
To add to the Skyfall point, all films portray IT people as swivel-eyed loons/social misfits/nerds. Nothing like the supercool studs we actually are in real life.
I think you'll find everyone wants to be cool like Boris from Goldeneye 
At first I thought the new Q was from the IT Crowd lol
Independence day.
When the space ships turn up,all the main characters all travel in all modes of transport. i.e lorries, air force one, cars,motor homes, helicopters,fighter jets etc,and yet they all seem to arrive in the same place, at the same time.
King Kong.
Similar to the first poster suggested, on the island the tribal islanders, built a huge 60 foot wall to keep Kong OUT of the inner village, and yet made huge 60 foot doors,for their average 5=6 foot person,why? shirley a normal size door would have been better.
When the space ships turn up,all the main characters all travel in all modes of transport. i.e lorries, air force one, cars,motor homes, helicopters,fighter jets etc,and yet they all seem to arrive in the same place, at the same time.
King Kong.
Similar to the first poster suggested, on the island the tribal islanders, built a huge 60 foot wall to keep Kong OUT of the inner village, and yet made huge 60 foot doors,for their average 5=6 foot person,why? shirley a normal size door would have been better.
Johnnytheboy said:
The thing where someone wins some money/is offered some money/etc. and turns it down/rips up the cheque because it wouldn't be right/they don't need charity.
Does this EVER really happen?
I've heard of a person who said they'd paint over an expensive artwork if it was painted on their garden wall.Does this EVER really happen?
Star Trek reboot.
They have a substance called (IIRC) Red Mercury. A small blob of it creates a huge gravity-well, they drill a hole in a planet and drop the blob in and the planet then collapses in on itself.
The thing is, you'd get the same effect dropping it on its surface, but then if it's mass was so much higher than the planet to cause such collapse then its presence would pull the planet from its orbit into the spaceship with the RM on it, again causing death and destruction for the planet's population (it would be like transporting a white-dwarf star and placing it within the solar system, it would quickly mess up all the planets orbits, cause the Sun to move, etc, it would be bad). They'd be able to save loads of time and knock off the drilling.
Also at the end of the film when all of the RM blows up next to Enterprise it simply raises shields to defend itself. Couldn't they do that on the planet?
They have a substance called (IIRC) Red Mercury. A small blob of it creates a huge gravity-well, they drill a hole in a planet and drop the blob in and the planet then collapses in on itself.
The thing is, you'd get the same effect dropping it on its surface, but then if it's mass was so much higher than the planet to cause such collapse then its presence would pull the planet from its orbit into the spaceship with the RM on it, again causing death and destruction for the planet's population (it would be like transporting a white-dwarf star and placing it within the solar system, it would quickly mess up all the planets orbits, cause the Sun to move, etc, it would be bad). They'd be able to save loads of time and knock off the drilling.
Also at the end of the film when all of the RM blows up next to Enterprise it simply raises shields to defend itself. Couldn't they do that on the planet?
singlecoil said:
It's stirred, not shaken FFS!
If a cocktail has been shaken that stirring before or afterwards it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.
Two thingsIf a cocktail has been shaken that stirring before or afterwards it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.
a) Yes, you're correct. In the books it is indeed stirred, not shaken. Bond maintains that shaking it 'bruises' the vodka
b) Mythbusters did a double blind test, and you apparently *can* tell the difference between shaken and stirred. To remove visual clues, they let the ice melt first.
JonRB said:
singlecoil said:
It's stirred, not shaken FFS!
If a cocktail has been shaken that stirring before or afterwards it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.
Two thingsIf a cocktail has been shaken that stirring before or afterwards it isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.
a) Yes, you're correct. In the books it is indeed stirred, not shaken. Bond maintains that shaking it 'bruises' the vodka
b) Mythbusters did a double blind test, and you apparently *can* tell the difference between shaken and stirred. To remove visual clues, they let the ice melt first.
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