The 'but why would they do that, it makes no sense' thread
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andymc said:
Megaflow said:
TheInternet said:
Megaflow said:
Back to the Future.
Why 88mph?
Physics not your strong point then?Why 88mph?
88 - 8th letter of the alphabet is H - so HH or Heil Hitler? *
* blame an episode of "homeland" for that
I personally hate the "why would you do that?" In films. I only reckon they do it because they either have no imagination, think the audience is stupid or simply truly believe that is what could happen. Maybe even all three. Drives me nuts.
I can't think of any specific examples right now but all the usual suspects mentioned in this thread are there. Especially the car chase bit : - Ive never done any evasive driving training nor neither know anyone who has - but if was being chased and feared for my life I'd simply slam the brakes on and smash their radiator. They only be able to carry on for 5 or 10 minutes tops, Shirley?!
You can get the occasional outbreak of sense. Take Aliens, after the initial battle under the reactor, the actual plan is not to try and sneak around individually or in pairs to be wiped out a few at a time but
Lets take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, its the only way to be sure!!
I know it didnt happen, pesky hidden away sly aliens on the dropship but at least it was a sensible plan!
Lets take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, its the only way to be sure!!
I know it didnt happen, pesky hidden away sly aliens on the dropship but at least it was a sensible plan!
You knock a guard unconscious and steal his weapon but why not take his extra ammo as well?
Also, as soon as the weapon is empty you must look at it, frown, and then throw it away. Why not hang on to it to point at people, use as a blunt weapon or in the hope you can get more ammo?
Come to think of it almost any weapon seems to get discarded as soon as it is used. Knock chap out with a stick, knife that intruder......chuck it away.
Same as if in the desert; if your water runs out you must immediately shake the bottle a few more times and toss it away...no thought as to what might happen if you did find another water source!
Also hacks me off when the main character (say a doctor, lawyer, office worker) can suddenly develop the fighting skills needed to defeat a trained killer/soldier/mercenary etc. Having trained with a couple of ex-marines I know the average man in the street would last about 5 seconds. This especially winds me up when our protagonist has been punched full force in the face a few times. Very hard to rally yourself and push the enemy back on to that convenient spike ( how many times does this happen?) when your jaw is broken.
Get knocked out by someone whacking you on head with a gun butt- no problem you'll be right as rain in 10 minutes. Camera shot as if from inside your head - eyes opening and closing bit blurred: you know the one - then a few groans. No concussion, no vomiting, no skull fracture, no cranial edema.
As for getting shot in the shoulder......
Also, as soon as the weapon is empty you must look at it, frown, and then throw it away. Why not hang on to it to point at people, use as a blunt weapon or in the hope you can get more ammo?
Come to think of it almost any weapon seems to get discarded as soon as it is used. Knock chap out with a stick, knife that intruder......chuck it away.
Same as if in the desert; if your water runs out you must immediately shake the bottle a few more times and toss it away...no thought as to what might happen if you did find another water source!
Also hacks me off when the main character (say a doctor, lawyer, office worker) can suddenly develop the fighting skills needed to defeat a trained killer/soldier/mercenary etc. Having trained with a couple of ex-marines I know the average man in the street would last about 5 seconds. This especially winds me up when our protagonist has been punched full force in the face a few times. Very hard to rally yourself and push the enemy back on to that convenient spike ( how many times does this happen?) when your jaw is broken.
Get knocked out by someone whacking you on head with a gun butt- no problem you'll be right as rain in 10 minutes. Camera shot as if from inside your head - eyes opening and closing bit blurred: you know the one - then a few groans. No concussion, no vomiting, no skull fracture, no cranial edema.
As for getting shot in the shoulder......
London424 said:
The end of Bad Boys...the Cobra and the Porsche racing along the massive open area towards the narrow gap in the wall.
Completely pointless (though fun use of cars).
There were no guns being fired, no need to be first through the gap...could have turned left or right miles before it.
The state of the steering rack in the Porsche,I wouldn't have driven it at 20mph.There must have been 6 or 8 inches of play in it.Completely pointless (though fun use of cars).
There were no guns being fired, no need to be first through the gap...could have turned left or right miles before it.
Daniel1 said:
andymc said:
Megaflow said:
TheInternet said:
Megaflow said:
Back to the Future.
Why 88mph?
Physics not your strong point then?Why 88mph?
88 - 8th letter of the alphabet is H - so HH or Heil Hitler? *
* blame an episode of "homeland" for that
I personally hate the "why would you do that?" In films. I only reckon they do it because they either have no imagination, think the audience is stupid or simply truly believe that is what could happen. Maybe even all three. Drives me nuts.
I can't think of any specific examples right now but all the usual suspects mentioned in this thread are there. Especially the car chase bit : - Ive never done any evasive driving training nor neither know anyone who has - but if was being chased and feared for my life I'd simply slam the brakes on and smash their radiator. They only be able to carry on for 5 or 10 minutes tops, Shirley?!
stitchface said:
At the end of Last Stand (recent Arnie film) one of the good guys is mocking another for only getting shot by a 9mm...compared to his own .50cal wound. 
A .50?!? Yeah that would leave a nasty scratch.Another pet hate of mine is people hanging by one hand from a ledge or girder who then pull themselves up.
Ever tried it?
How many people can even manage a chin-up, let alone then change grip and pull your whole body up. Especially after a fight or during massive explosions etc.
Why do writers think people can do this? Is it just they have seen so many films that they think it is possible or because they are just lazy writers and it is an established screen cliche?
CharlesAL said:
Star Wars. Why fly in a straight line allthe way down the trench? Why not just fly in towards the end?
And why would anyone just carry on as a sitting duck with three TIE fighters chasing you! There were other fighters around they surely could have called in for backup...
Tie fighters generally. And why would anyone just carry on as a sitting duck with three TIE fighters chasing you! There were other fighters around they surely could have called in for backup...
Darth Vader has a different tie fighter to the others. Seeing as he is DV then his must be a better spec. However as the Empire has unlimited funds then why don't they have all the Tie fighters in the better spec?
madbadger said:
Darth Vader has a different tie fighter to the others. Seeing as he is DV then his must be a better spec. However as the Empire has unlimited funds then why don't they have all the Tie fighters in the better spec?
They don't have unlimited funds though. Also, you need to consider Cold War era Russian jet fighter thinking - they had a policy of churning out large quantities of cheap fighters rather than the American doctrine of smaller numbers of Air Superiority fighters. The Empire seemingly followed a similar philosophy.
Darth Vader's Tie Advanced was a prototype with shields and hyperdrive (neither of which a standard TIE Fighter has) and cost orders of magnitude more as a result.
madbadger said:
CharlesAL said:
Star Wars. Why fly in a straight line allthe way down the trench? Why not just fly in towards the end?
And why would anyone just carry on as a sitting duck with three TIE fighters chasing you! There were other fighters around they surely could have called in for backup...
Tie fighters generally. And why would anyone just carry on as a sitting duck with three TIE fighters chasing you! There were other fighters around they surely could have called in for backup...
Darth Vader has a different tie fighter to the others. Seeing as he is DV then his must be a better spec. However as the Empire has unlimited funds then why don't they have all the Tie fighters in the better spec?
A) Do you really think DV would have the same company car as a sales rep?
B) Building the Death Star and trying to rule the galaxy at the same time would cost a fortune and would probably mean certain cutbacks, supplying poverty spec vehicles to the troops is not something new....
There's a scene in 'Heat' where the bad guys are in a car park under a bank, breaking a hole through into the computer room in order to swap out a circuit board to defeat the alarm system. The circuit board is lowered down through the hole on the end of two ridiculously long ribbon cables, just the right length to allow them to do this.
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