24 Hours in Police Custody: Ch4
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Not an isolated offence for Skunk Boy, hence the long stretch
http://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/crime/luton-robbe...
Stephenson also pleaded guilty to committing a further robbery in which a ‘stun gun’ was used on the victim in September last year, while he was on bail for the other robberies.
http://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/crime/luton-robbe...
Stephenson also pleaded guilty to committing a further robbery in which a ‘stun gun’ was used on the victim in September last year, while he was on bail for the other robberies.
johnboy1975 said:
Wonder if they were seen as heroes or idiots by their mates in jail last night?
For people like them, a lengthy jail sentence is just something that happens from time to time. Once released, they will be worshipped by certain members of the community as they have done "proper time". If you noticed, the older of the 2 lads was already talking about "his generation" etc. as if he was a "respectable" criminal & not some little scrote making threats on Facebook. He already considered himself to be a cut above the average scumbag.They love the notoriety it brings them and certainly wouldn't be ashamed of being sent to prison. Neither will their families funnily enough. I know (vaguely) a lad who served 9 years for stealing cars. He had been chased several times by the Police & kept getting away. His parents and grandparents were honestly really proud of him for being able to "get away from the Police" and considered him to be an excellent driver. They never took into consideration he only got away because the Police weren't prepared to drive as stupidly as he did to catch him.
northwest monkey said:
johnboy1975 said:
Wonder if they were seen as heroes or idiots by their mates in jail last night?
For people like them, a lengthy jail sentence is just something that happens from time to time. Once released, they will be worshipped by certain members of the community as they have done "proper time". If you noticed, the older of the 2 lads was already talking about "his generation" etc. as if he was a "respectable" criminal & not some little scrote making threats on Facebook. He already considered himself to be a cut above the average scumbag.rehab71 said:
Negative Creep said:
Hope that smug rat boy gets what he deserves
I'd love to bundle this t
t in to a van with a load of mates, drive him to the sticks and kick the st out of him. He's a fking scum bag and a drain on society.He's on the run... I don't understand why people on bail aren't tagged of given an exploding implant in their head like in that film....
rehab71 said:
Negative Creep said:
Hope that smug rat boy gets what he deserves
He wants a fking hiding.t bag for sure, but would it not be better to turn him into a functioning citizen rather than the career petty criminal that he is most likely going to end up as? I'd be the first person to push him down a flight of stairs, but I don't think that is the way to stop people like him reoffending, beating him, locking him away or what ever will just make him more resilient to the next kicking or time in jail.
Laurel Green said:
It's all well and good that he was sent down but, due to the bloody human-rights brigade it is but an enforced holiday.
Stop talking about things you have no idea about. FYI prisons are not nice places, they are quite the opposite. If you wish to tell me how wrong I am then please explain your experiences of them. Willy Nilly said:
he is a little st bag for sure, but would it not be better to turn him into a functioning citizen rather than the career petty criminal that he is most likely going to end up as?
I'd be the first person to push him down a flight of stairs, but I don't think that is the way to stop people like him reoffending, beating him, locking him away or what ever will just make him more resilient to the next kicking or time in jail.
The most affective way to cure criminality is with education. It's even more affective than execution - if you educate someone the chances of their children having problems are dramatically reduced. If the government took that view, and started offering proper drug and alcohol treatment facilities then reoffending would reduce.t bag for sure, but would it not be better to turn him into a functioning citizen rather than the career petty criminal that he is most likely going to end up as? I'd be the first person to push him down a flight of stairs, but I don't think that is the way to stop people like him reoffending, beating him, locking him away or what ever will just make him more resilient to the next kicking or time in jail.
However as seen on this thread - there are far too many simpletons who believe what they are told be right wing newspapers for that to happen in our democracy.
Turn the Prisons into hotel rooms which turn out literate graduates who have been taught a bit of compassion and had some counselling and see what happens... It just ain't going to happen.
photosnob said:
Willy Nilly said:
he is a little st bag for sure, but would it not be better to turn him into a functioning citizen rather than the career petty criminal that he is most likely going to end up as?
I'd be the first person to push him down a flight of stairs, but I don't think that is the way to stop people like him reoffending, beating him, locking him away or what ever will just make him more resilient to the next kicking or time in jail.
The most affective way to cure criminality is with education. It's even more affective than execution - if you educate someone the chances of their children having problems are dramatically reduced. If the government took that view, and started offering proper drug and alcohol treatment facilities then reoffending would reduce.t bag for sure, but would it not be better to turn him into a functioning citizen rather than the career petty criminal that he is most likely going to end up as? I'd be the first person to push him down a flight of stairs, but I don't think that is the way to stop people like him reoffending, beating him, locking him away or what ever will just make him more resilient to the next kicking or time in jail.
However as seen on this thread - there are far too many simpletons who believe what they are told be right wing newspapers for that to happen in our democracy.
Turn the Prisons into hotel rooms which turn out literate graduates who have been taught a bit of compassion and had some counselling and see what happens... It just ain't going to happen.
There are some people who refuse to be educated. We need a two or three tier system. We should be filtering out those who can be rehabilitated and working to get them turned around and paying their way. Those who refuse should be made to watch but not be able to interfere with those who have chosen to be a success, some of those will choose to then join in. Which leaves a hardcore of scum who'll never turn around. To be housed and fed at the cheapest possible convenience, probably in 20ft high open top concrete cubes, s
tting in a bucket that's lifted out once a week.CoolHands said:
Try teaching them. Goodluck - you can see what he was like with the desk sergeant. And a teacher has no handy cell he can cart him off too, you have to 'manage' his behaviour! Then he goes to period 2 and repeats again! Etc
Period?Just because teaching children in schools works that way (in the USA), doesn't mean that's they way you rehabilitate criminals back into the human race.
If you can't see beyond "classes" and "classrooms", then your mind is as much in a prison as those guys are.
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