24 Hours in Police Custody: Ch4
Discussion
DoubleSix said:
These coppers don't come across too bright I'm afraid.
Trying to cut 10mm cable with a multi-tool(!), then realising the cable isn't actually attached to anything.
Being quarantined and telling someone to hop it when they wander in...
Did anyone get the investigating officer's logic on why they couldn't even consider charging the lorry driver if he wasn't stopped at Dover?Trying to cut 10mm cable with a multi-tool(!), then realising the cable isn't actually attached to anything.
Being quarantined and telling someone to hop it when they wander in...
She said that it was because there was no way he could know that there were immigrants in the back if he hadn't been stopped, but I fail to see how him being stopped has any bearing on whether he would know or not at that point?
I can understand that, if he hadn't been stopped, the police couldn't prove at which point the immigrants had entered the back, therefore there is some level of doubt as to whether he actually smuggled them into the country, as they may have entered the UK on their own and only boarded his trailer once inside the UK and therefore the chances of prosecution are low, but that isn't how she (repeatedly) phrased it.
I fail to see how him not being stopped at Dover has any impact on whether he knew he'd brought them across on the ferry as by the time he'd reached Dover he'd already crossed either knowingly or unknowingly - being stopped at Dover doesn't tell you which?
ezi said:
So now all of the immigrants in the lorry are in the UK fighting their right to stay, not speaking a word of English and being subsidised by the tax payer since they aren't legally allowed to work?
Brilliant.
And when it looks like they're going to lose their case they abscond and join the black economy.Brilliant.
Bizarre episode. I never realised that things happened so quickly, I 'assumed' that immigrants were put in detention centres before then being processed, how did they find a house so quickly ?
All very strange at the end where the father had been split up from his family, didn't have a clue where they were (seemed a total f
k up to me) and the only they way they found each other was via Facebook??!
All very strange at the end where the father had been split up from his family, didn't have a clue where they were (seemed a total f
k up to me) and the only they way they found each other was via Facebook??!
Agree with the comments on this episode, I think that apart from 'elite' police units (e.g. the Road Crime Team from TV police in 'Road Wars') a lot of ordinary plods seem to come across as quite sloppy on tv in terms of the uniform, grooming and the way they deal with the public and suspects. The lady investigating officer with her blue top and black poloneck get-up and 2-3 ear piercings didn't come across as too impressive. The whole episode seemed to present a somewhat depressing and ineffective police force and general crap immigration policy. Maybe the TV programmes with all their 'Sir' and 'Ma'am' to superiors and the smart uniforms mask a somewhat less impressive reality...
Blue One said:
Agree with the comments on this episode, I think that apart from 'elite' police units (e.g. the Road Crime Team from TV police in 'Road Wars') a lot of ordinary plods seem to come across as quite sloppy on tv in terms of the uniform, grooming and the way they deal with the public and suspects. The lady investigating officer with her blue top and black poloneck get-up and 2-3 ear piercings didn't come across as too impressive. The whole episode seemed to present a somewhat depressing and ineffective police force and general crap immigration policy. Maybe the TV programmes with all their 'Sir' and 'Ma'am' to superiors and the smart uniforms mask a somewhat less impressive reality...
To be fair to the lady investigating officer I'm pretty sure she has serious body burns and wears the long sleeved poloneck to keep it all covered up.First thing I noticed about her was the scarring on her neck. For her that must be so annoying. I didn't have any problems with they way they were dressed.
They look no different to any other set of professional people in an office, in terms of standards of dress. I don't expect them to have a higher standard of how they dress compared to anybody else really. Obviously the uniform is there for many of them, but how it was worn seemed fine.
They look no different to any other set of professional people in an office, in terms of standards of dress. I don't expect them to have a higher standard of how they dress compared to anybody else really. Obviously the uniform is there for many of them, but how it was worn seemed fine.
Bluedot said:
Bizarre episode. I never realised that things happened so quickly, I 'assumed' that immigrants were put in detention centres before then being processed, how did they find a house so quickly ?
All very strange at the end where the father had been split up from his family, didn't have a clue where they were (seemed a total fk up to me) and the only they way they found each other was via Facebook??!
Apparently detention centres are too much like prisons. Personally I'm ok with that. If a few months prison is better than what you are running from, then you definitely need someone to stand up and help you. If it's not or they don't think their case will go anywhere...don't come.All very strange at the end where the father had been split up from his family, didn't have a clue where they were (seemed a total f
k up to me) and the only they way they found each other was via Facebook??!In terms of communication. They have a right to a family life. It's not the states job to organise that family life. We will neither kill them nor detain them for a long period, now they can go about their day. I think that's a pretty good deal.
Munter said:
Bluedot said:
Bizarre episode. I never realised that things happened so quickly, I 'assumed' that immigrants were put in detention centres before then being processed, how did they find a house so quickly ?
All very strange at the end where the father had been split up from his family, didn't have a clue where they were (seemed a total fk up to me) and the only they way they found each other was via Facebook??!
Apparently detention centres are too much like prisons. Personally I'm ok with that. If a few months prison is better than what you are running from, then you definitely need someone to stand up and help you. If it's not or they don't think their case will go anywhere...don't come.All very strange at the end where the father had been split up from his family, didn't have a clue where they were (seemed a total f
k up to me) and the only they way they found each other was via Facebook??!In terms of communication. They have a right to a family life. It's not the states job to organise that family life. We will neither kill them nor detain them for a long period, now they can go about their day. I think that's a pretty good deal.
DoubleSix said:
ezi said:
So now all of the immigrants in the lorry are in the UK fighting their right to stay, not speaking a word of English and being subsidised by the tax payer since they aren't legally allowed to work?
Brilliant.
And when it looks like they're going to lose their case they abscond and join the black economy.Brilliant.
If that's true then the blame lies fully at the door of Anthony Charles Lynton Blair and G W Bush, I'm sure they had all of this boxed off in their 'regime change' masterplan.
PurpleTurtle said:
DoubleSix said:
ezi said:
So now all of the immigrants in the lorry are in the UK fighting their right to stay, not speaking a word of English and being subsidised by the tax payer since they aren't legally allowed to work?
Brilliant.
And when it looks like they're going to lose their case they abscond and join the black economy.Brilliant.
If that's true then the blame lies fully at the door of Anthony Charles Lynton Blair and G W Bush, I'm sure they had all of this boxed off in their 'regime change' masterplan.
Can the people who have been arrested request that their face isn't shown on tv?
I don't understand why anyone would want their face plastered over the TV. It's the same with the first blokes wife. No idea why she would willingly go on TV.
I don't like the mob style of the hunters. Going completely the wrong way around it all.
I don't understand why anyone would want their face plastered over the TV. It's the same with the first blokes wife. No idea why she would willingly go on TV.
I don't like the mob style of the hunters. Going completely the wrong way around it all.
Don't really agree with the way that the mob go about catching these perverts but then I also don't see that the police would be likely to unearth them any other way. Rightly or wrongly, the two caught ended up serving significant prison sentences so the courts, effectively, supported the methods used.
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