24 Hours in Police Custody: Ch4

[NerveAgent]

Oakey said:

The two that caught him look like a pair of wrong 'uns. Makes you wonder, had he not gone straight to the police station himself immediately, whether they'd be blackmailing him instead.

I find people like them quite strange individuals. They are always a certain type, a bit ummmm low rate.

[Oakey]

Yeah exactly.

That other one that does, he was taking donations and was listing all sorts of things they needed money for. You know, shiny new imacs and expensive video and camera equipment, and even video codecs. Yet he won't reply to emails, unless it's a business email, then he will.

[Tango13]

The only one that came away from that program with their credibility intact was the duty soliciter, he didn't take any crap off the policewoman during the interview and soon put her back in her box when she started with her 'opinions'

The vigilantes were utter 'Council' to borrow a phrase from another thread

[coanda_2013]

Uncomfortable viewing tonight. One thing though - there's a bit where one of the officers is reviewing evidence on the arrestee's laptop. The film crew films the screen but blurs out the image. Presumably they had to blur it out after filming. So I just wonder are the Police Officer and Camera operator technically guilty of offences around distributing and viewing offensive material?

[joscal]

Found that pretty disturbing on all fronts, not sure of the rights or wrongs but glad he's off the streets.

[Bluedot]

Tango13 said:

The only one that came away from that program with their credibility intact was the duty soliciter, he didn't take any crap off the policewoman during the interview and soon put her back in her box when she started with her 'opinions'

He's the one that used to be a detective but then retrained and now sits on the other side of the table.
You can tell the detectives can't stand him.

[Elroy Blue]

Tango13 said:

The only one that came away from that program with their credibility intact was the duty soliciter, he didn't take any crap off the policewoman during the interview and soon put her back in her box when she started with her 'opinions'

The vigilantes were utter 'Council' to borrow a phrase from another thread

So the Police Officers who spent hours preparing a case file and convincing a reluctant CPS to charge don't have 'credibility'. It doesn't all happen in the one hour of TV you know. That investigation and file preparation will have taken many weeks.

These TV shows are entertainment. Why anyone chooses to appear on them is beyond me. They just reinforce the public's perception that it's like The Bill. All done and dusted in an hour.

[FredClogs]

They never said if the fat perv guy was arrested and charged for the images on his computer.

I agree I'm undecided on the actions of the Ross Kemp wannabe and his mole, but they did get the guy off the streets so the end result was good.

[Willhire89]

You have to admit the guy made a real effort to impress on their first date .......

.....he washed his hair a fortnight earlier and changed his T shirt a couple of days before.

[VolvoT5]

Tango13 said:

The only one that came away from that program with their credibility intact was the duty soliciter, he didn't take any crap off the policewoman during the interview and soon put her back in her box when she started with her 'opinions'

The vigilantes were utter 'Council' to borrow a phrase from another thread

It was all a bit grim wasn't it. Police woman doing the interviewing could barely hide her disgust towards both the solicitor and the suspect, which is kind of understandable, but it actually got in the way of doing her job effectively.

The vigilantes, were every bit as creepy as the criminal, albeit in a different way. That kind of direct action by the public is a very dodgy road to be going down and I'm not surprised in these kind of cases that the evidence doesn't always hold up in court.

Anyway the guy was pretty much bang to rights in this case. I felt quite sorry for his wife and thought it was quite a brave decision for her to be on TV really.

The police in general come across as a bit thick in this program, especially last week with the illegal immigrants. I wonder if they are actually a bit dim or if Ch4 have edited it to be that way? It is hard to believe these kind of reality shows are not spun to hell to suit the program makers agenda.

[Calza]

Grim episode indeed.

Don't know how to feel about these vigilantes, inherently it seems wrong though - but I can't see a lot of these people being caught otherwise.

That fat guy didn't seem right though, learning difficulties or something? I wonder what his mental age was.

[andymc]

he was clever enough to no comment and hide behind "dyslexia"

[thetapeworm]

FredClogs said:

They never said if the fat perv guy was arrested and charged for the images on his computer.

I'm not sure what the outcome was in the end but I seem to recall reading he was also caught with a load of images on his phone.

[markmullen]

Although the end result of the vigilante's actions was a good one I was concerned that their actions in publicising the video before he'd been convicted would prejudice a trial which could mean their targets got away with it.

[Willhire89]

I suspect the Police have neither the time and/or resources to be proactively seeking out these people.

There is it would seem a steady stream of people out there looking to engage sexually with pre-teens.

On balance I would rather those people were off the streets or perhaps better still with the publicity of these vigilantes warned off their actions.

Surely any girl would have run a mile when coming across perp #1 - personal hygiene was not a priority.

[jan8p]

andymc said:

he was clever enough to no comment and hide behind "dyslexia"

That's what his solicitor will have told him, when to no comment and when to blame learning difficulties.

[berlintaxi]

NerveAgent said:

Oakey said:

The two that caught him look like a pair of wrong 'uns. Makes you wonder, had he not gone straight to the police station himself immediately, whether they'd be blackmailing him instead.

I find people like them quite strange individuals. They are always a certain type, a bit ummmm low rate.

No doubt waiting for their 15 minutes of fame on some Jeremy Kyle type ste.

[stain]

FredClogs said:

They never said if the fat perv guy was arrested and charged for the images on his computer.

I agree I'm undecided on the actions of the Ross Kemp wannabe and his mole, but they did get the guy off the streets so the end result was good.

It said at the end that he pleaded guilty to grooming and possession of indecent images. 28 months is nowhere near long enough in my opinion. A client of mine got longer for dodging VAT.

[thismonkeyhere]

markmullen said:

Although the end result of the vigilante's actions was a good one I was concerned that their actions in publicising the video before he'd been convicted would prejudice a trial which could mean their targets got away with it.

Indeed. No matter how disgusting the apparent crime, or how 'open and shut' the case might appear to our vigilante types, he is still innocent until proven guilty.

Also, it's not entirely beyond the realms of possibility that one day they could confront the wrong guy through mistaken identity, or even account hacking etc - could completely destroy someone's life without reason.

It was quite clear that they just want the glory and credit, without any real thought to the above.

[Mr Trophy]

Really feel sorry for perv boys Wife. And the Officer that had to watch the "films" I have no words at all, how anyone can sit there and watch that is beyond me. Absolutely horrible / heart-breaking.