24 Hours in Police Custody: Ch4

[VolvoT5]

Surely people this thick should be locked in a padded room for their own protection (and our sanity).

[FredClogs]

Luton, not on list of must go places. I've turned down work there before, just don't fancy it and I'm from the grimmer bits of east Lancashire.

[rehab71]

Here we go, 'I'm special needs innit' , wker!

[CoolHands]

Sounds like a st-hole for all concerned.

Imagine being a normal person living round there with kids; it'd be a nightmare

[Noodle1982]

Any idea if the police are going after the husband of this woman on the run?

[Bring on the clowns]

She's a woman. And she's white and English. And she's a woman. And English. Yes, we get it...

[Bring on the clowns]

rehab71 said:

Here we go, 'I'm special needs innit' , wker!

So, you don't think he's got the genes for it then?

[CoolHands]

Ok I take back my earlier reservations it was quite interesting to watch. I wouldn't want to be Tommy Robinson in jail I believe what he says about that situation.

[Noodle1982]

So the white couple originally get taken in with possible religious/racial offenses based predominantly around calling the neighbour's brother a terrorist......who turns out to actually be a terrorist!

[Bring on the clowns]

White muslim convert becomes extremist, terrorist sympathiser. What a surprise.

[Oakey]

Surprised no one commented on there being a department for "Honour Based Violence"!

[T5XARV]

Oakey said:

Surprised no one commented on there being a department for "Honour Based Violence"!

Car thieves were once referred to as Joyriders. Now we call them car thieves. With good reason.
I find it appalling that the term 'Honour' is still used, especially by the police. What a fking misnomer.
And, as one poster has alluded to, the appalling actions of the husband were not seen to be investigated.

But two, thick fat white folk lose their tempers and, quite accurately as it turns out, call another thick white bloke a terrorist and they are forcibly arrested ?

Crazy. Fooking. World.
Sorry, country.

[footnote]

Anyone know why the investigating officer, who asked in the beginning - "are they all black" and was clearly told "No, they are all white" - constantly referred to and raised accusations of, a racially motivated offence - until the very end when she finally acknowledged the absence of any racial element.

Is Islam a race or a religion in the UK?

[andymc]

so the horrible shouty inarticulate woman was right? Quite a slow episode but a bit revealing at the end, pretty sure she mentioned Ramjam Choudray

[Munter]

andymc said:

so the horrible shouty inarticulate woman was right? Quite a slow episode but a bit revealing at the end, pretty sure she mentioned Ramjam Choudray

I don't remember the Mother, or Brother of the terrorist being terrorists, and such. Had the shouty white woman been shouting at the guy convicted of terrorism then she'd have been right. But she wasn't.

Imagine if you had a brother who was a terrorist, and you were then subjected to the bile coming out of that woman. Would you think the woman was in the right to shout it at you.

[rohrl]

If I had the choice of having one of the overwhelming majority of Muslim families in the UK as next-door neighbours or having that pair...well, it's no choice really is it?

[PurpleTurtle]

Intriguing camera angles on Tommy Robinson - his brief, if he had one, was intentionally kept out of shot.


"Hello Luton Duty Solictors, how may we help you?"

"Morning Sir, Luton custody suite here. We've got Tommy Robinson in, you know EDL fella, says he's a good boy now, but has done some geezer over in prison. He's picked you from the Duty list, are you OK to come down and sit with him and trouser your Legal Aid fee? Just one thing, Channel 4 are here, it's on telly...."

"fk"

[youngsyr]

Munter said:

youngsyr said:

Munter said:

youngsyr said:

Can anyone remember what the actual offences he was convicted of were? Surely nothing to do with grooming or meeting a 12 year old, because there was no 12 year old involved?

So long as he believed the other person was 12 I don't think that matters. He's still guilty of grooming assuming he leads the conversation places it shouldn't go with a 12 year old he believes he's talking too. Which from what was read out in the interview he did.

That's a bit bonkers though, isn't it? The adult female who was on the other side of the conversation was clearly continuing the conversation with the aim of the guy exposing his paedophilic tendencies. To my mind there is a big question as to who was grooming whom, not to mention, where is the victim?

That's the problem with what the hunter types do. It can be them leading him on and then the whole thing falls down and the suspect is out the door to walk free. But with what they read out in the interview, he was pushing the "girl" to go places in the conversation without the "girl" leading him.

You don't have to have a victim for many crimes. If I decide to try and hire a hitman. But end up meeting a policeman in a sting. While they may have no idea who I was planning on having killed, I'm still going to court and probably prison.

That's not really an accurate analogy though, is it? In your scenario there is a real but potential victim that the defendant is intending to kill via the fictional hitman, even if the potential victim hasn't been revealed yet.

In the programme's situation the potential victim is entirely fictional. To use your analogy, it would be like hiring a hitman to kill Winnie the Pooh!

[andymc]

Munter said:

andymc said:

so the horrible shouty inarticulate woman was right? Quite a slow episode but a bit revealing at the end, pretty sure she mentioned Ramjam Choudray

I don't remember the Mother, or Brother of the terrorist being terrorists, and such. Had the shouty white woman been shouting at the guy convicted of terrorism then she'd have been right. But she wasn't.

Imagine if you had a brother who was a terrorist, and you were then subjected to the bile coming out of that woman. Would you think the woman was in the right to shout it at you.

very true my mistake

[thismonkeyhere]

PurpleTurtle said:

"Morning Sir, Luton custody suite here. We've got Tommy Robinson in, you know EDL fella, says he's a good boy now, but has done some geezer over in prison. He's picked you from the Duty list, are you OK to come down and sit with him and trouser your Legal Aid fee? Just one thing, Channel 4 are here, it's on telly...."

"fk"