Walking Dead Season 5 - Spoilers will be cannibalised
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That scene was pretty gruesome, and a bit of a turnaround for Rick. We understand though that just two episodes previous, they had been trussed up over a trough about to have their throats slit and become din dins for Gareth and crew. They'd also just recovered Bob to the church who had suffered his leg being cooked and eaten in front of his eyes. That is a serious amount of evil.
The key line for me when Gareth begged to be set free, was Rick telling him, 'you might not cross our path but you'll cross other people's path'. He didn't want that to happen. He exacted his revenge to protect his crew.
Excellent episode. Echo other thoughts too about the story moving at a good pace. This is definitely the best thing on TV at the moment.
The key line for me when Gareth begged to be set free, was Rick telling him, 'you might not cross our path but you'll cross other people's path'. He didn't want that to happen. He exacted his revenge to protect his crew.
Excellent episode. Echo other thoughts too about the story moving at a good pace. This is definitely the best thing on TV at the moment.
I think that it had been made quite clear that the Termites would have had no qualms about continuing to butcher men, women and children/babies in their quest to survive, be it those in the church or those still wandering in the wild.
There's no way that Rick's crew would have felt safe knowing that they were still out there somewhere as they would have had no hesitation in slitting their throats for the next meal.
As Rick explained, they needed to save the bullets.
For sheer poetic justice, they should have just hacked off their limbs and left them in a room with turned bob
There's no way that Rick's crew would have felt safe knowing that they were still out there somewhere as they would have had no hesitation in slitting their throats for the next meal.
As Rick explained, they needed to save the bullets.
For sheer poetic justice, they should have just hacked off their limbs and left them in a room with turned bob
Of course the episodes one plot hole, and for me it was huge, was that Bob (having laughed hysterically at the Termites eating his "tainted meat") had soooo pissed off the Termites that they decide to deliver him back to Rick and co at the church even though Bob can basically spill the beans on everything the termites know, how many of them there are, inform them he's infected etc etc etc. Whilst relaying the good news that Carol and Daryl escaped.
Did I miss something here?
Did I miss something here?
I thought that at first.
But Rick and Co didn't know what had happened to Bob or the others. So them delivering Bob back meant he would tell them where the termites were hiding. The expectation being that they would go looking for them. Which they did. Of course Rick knew they were watching so they had to leave to get the termites to come to the Church. Risky strategy as they discussed.
I said to the Mrs they haven't left and it was a trap.
But Rick and Co didn't know what had happened to Bob or the others. So them delivering Bob back meant he would tell them where the termites were hiding. The expectation being that they would go looking for them. Which they did. Of course Rick knew they were watching so they had to leave to get the termites to come to the Church. Risky strategy as they discussed.
I said to the Mrs they haven't left and it was a trap.
Bullett said:
I thought that at first.
But Rick and Co didn't know what had happened to Bob or the others. So them delivering Bob back meant he would tell them where the termites were hiding. The expectation being that they would go looking for them. Which they did. Of course Rick knew they were watching so they had to leave to get the termites to come to the Church. Risky strategy as they discussed.
I said to the Mrs they haven't left and it was a trap.
OK, convoluted but plausible. I just wish they'd convey that to the audience.But Rick and Co didn't know what had happened to Bob or the others. So them delivering Bob back meant he would tell them where the termites were hiding. The expectation being that they would go looking for them. Which they did. Of course Rick knew they were watching so they had to leave to get the termites to come to the Church. Risky strategy as they discussed.
I said to the Mrs they haven't left and it was a trap.
Here's another niggle:
Having killed the termites surely there is now no need for them to split up?
Abraham wanted to go as he saw a 'clear and present danger' and thats now been dealt with so why go off in the bus without Rick and co who are merely waiting for Carol and Daryl to return?
KareemK said:
The part of that scene that tipped into 'darkness' was when they continued to hack away at the cannibals, who were on their knees, long after they were dead. A couple of them (Glen and Maggie?) look on at the slaughter occuring and actually look disgusted with it themselves.
the machete would have been relatively quick, but bashing someone's head in with a rifle butt wouldn't be over in a second or two
KareemK said:
Bullett said:
I thought that at first.
But Rick and Co didn't know what had happened to Bob or the others. So them delivering Bob back meant he would tell them where the termites were hiding. The expectation being that they would go looking for them. Which they did. Of course Rick knew they were watching so they had to leave to get the termites to come to the Church. Risky strategy as they discussed.
I said to the Mrs they haven't left and it was a trap.
OK, convoluted but plausible. I just wish they'd convey that to the audience.But Rick and Co didn't know what had happened to Bob or the others. So them delivering Bob back meant he would tell them where the termites were hiding. The expectation being that they would go looking for them. Which they did. Of course Rick knew they were watching so they had to leave to get the termites to come to the Church. Risky strategy as they discussed.
I said to the Mrs they haven't left and it was a trap.
Here's another niggle:
Having killed the termites surely there is now no need for them to split up?
Abraham wanted to go as he saw a 'clear and present danger' and thats now been dealt with so why go off in the bus without Rick and co who are merely waiting for Carol and Daryl to return?
This story line more or less follows the comic buck including the just so deserved butchering of the cannibals (it was actually more grotesque in the comic). I dont get that it was shocking, compared to the first episode.
It is just 4 walls at the end of the day...
Abraham was determined to leave remember while Rick couldnt because of Daryl. Glen and Maggie going sort of follows the books too.
Hugo a Gogo said:
...yeah
I just can't imagine you could kill someone instantly by bashing a lightweight rifle butt into their head
the zombs go down easily, because they are mouldy or whatever, but not living people, surely
They had guns, they'd just shot the main termites fingers off. They also had them on their knees with their own guns surrendered.I just can't imagine you could kill someone instantly by bashing a lightweight rifle butt into their head
the zombs go down easily, because they are mouldy or whatever, but not living people, surely
I don't think there's any doubt that it was more brutal than circumstances dictated, not to mention more inefficient hacking and bashing away like that. Yeah, saving bullets is good but you had their weapons at the point you decided to off them.
Hugo a Gogo said:
...yeah
I just can't imagine you could kill someone instantly by bashing a lightweight rifle butt into their head
the zombs go down easily, because they are mouldy or whatever, but not living people, surely
You can kill someone with a punch to head, hitting them with a few kilos of rifle butt is certainly going to smart somewhat.I just can't imagine you could kill someone instantly by bashing a lightweight rifle butt into their head
the zombs go down easily, because they are mouldy or whatever, but not living people, surely
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