Walking Dead Season 5 - Spoilers will be cannibalised

Walking Dead Season 5 - Spoilers will be cannibalised

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type-r

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14,157 posts

214 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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joema said:
I knew the lie would expose it self but was hoping they'd get to a big city.
I was hoping for some big city action too, rather than all this rambling along a road. I was disappointed it was a lie too - and was left contemplating where exactly is Walking Dead going? For me the one thing that is missing is that there is no planned end goal - just random food runs, kill a few zombies, meet some new enemies, fight them, repeat.

JagLover

42,512 posts

236 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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type-r said:
I was hoping for some big city action too, rather than all this rambling along a road. I was disappointed it was a lie too - and was left contemplating where exactly is Walking Dead going? For me the one thing that is missing is that there is no planned end goal - just random food runs, kill a few zombies, meet some new enemies, fight them, repeat.
I'm not up to date with the Comics

But for a definitive end I think the survivors need to find somewhere secure where they can grow crops. Allot more secure than the prison at any rate. That would seem like an "End" as you would have a feeling that humans would survive.

Bullett

10,893 posts

185 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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There has to be an end to a zombie apocalypse.

Zombies seem to need to eat. So what happens if they don't, there can't be huge amounts of zombie chow about and the longer it goes on the better the survivors will get at avoiding or killing the zombies. They also seem to be decaying so they will eventually stop being a threat even if they don't starve. It does depend on zombie physiology which being kept vague (on purpose).


otolith

56,361 posts

205 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Only if new zombies are only created by zombie bites. In TWD, anyone who dies becomes a zombie, so it will never be over until everyone is dead.

Bullett

10,893 posts

185 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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It only got out of hand initially because no one knew how to deal with them. Anyone who dies in the future=hole in the head.

Negative Creep

25,008 posts

228 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Bullett said:
There has to be an end to a zombie apocalypse.

Zombies seem to need to eat. So what happens if they don't, there can't be huge amounts of zombie chow about and the longer it goes on the better the survivors will get at avoiding or killing the zombies. They also seem to be decaying so they will eventually stop being a threat even if they don't starve. It does depend on zombie physiology which being kept vague (on purpose).
As with most TV shows, the problem is that those making it don't know when it's going to end. If the network suddenly commissions 2 more seasons they need to rewrite accordingly

Bullett

10,893 posts

185 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I wasn't really concerned about the TV show, just zombies in general.
The problem with many shows is they go on too long, it needs an end even if that end is they find a cure or everyone dies.

I'm interested in where the show goes now, they have no motivation to continue on, they just need to settle and try and build a life learning from previous mistakes.

Negative Creep

25,008 posts

228 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Bullett said:
I wasn't really concerned about the TV show, just zombies in general.
The problem with many shows is they go on too long, it needs an end even if that end is they find a cure or everyone dies.

I'm interested in where the show goes now, they have no motivation to continue on, they just need to settle and try and build a life learning from previous mistakes.
If we follow World War Z rules then they would eventually decay into nothing, or at least be immobile and easy to dispatch or avoid.

As for where it goes, in theory Washington would be a good place as there are likely to be survivors, but on the other hand there could be a few million zombies wandering around. Perhaps they'll suddenly get a radio message that there is a safe zone with some sort of functioning government and try to head there?

lady topaz

3,855 posts

255 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Am I missing something obvious here?

Why don't they all just head north? Surely zombie brains would freeze and make them immobile.

Start up again in the wilderness. Probably a lot more 'game' alive if the zombies aren't so prevalent.

Negative Creep

25,008 posts

228 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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lady topaz said:
Am I missing something obvious here?

Why don't they all just head north? Surely zombie brains would freeze and make them immobile.

Start up again in the wilderness. Probably a lot more 'game' alive if the zombies aren't so prevalent.
But also much tougher to protect yourself from the elements. Although a mountainous region would make sense in the it would be hard for zombies to get to yo and a good defensive spot if needs be. I don't think we've seen any frozen/cold zombies yet have we?

lady topaz

3,855 posts

255 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Considering the timespan since the outbreak they don't seem to have travelled too far at all.

Time for a pioneering spirit. Get to a climate they can't exist in, get building some cabins, or better still use holiday cabins.

Decapitate any frozen walkers just on the off chance they re-animate when they thaw, and dine out on moose, salmon etc.

Yep, happy generally with my survival plan.

Anything better than meandering around running into herds or singles holed up in suburban districts. Prisons with chicken wire, or farms with bugger all.

kowalski655

14,688 posts

144 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Bullett said:
It only got out of hand initially because no one knew how to deal with them. Anyone who dies in the future=hole in the head.
Im sure I recall reading that the average zombie makeup was getting more rotten as each series went by. Eventually they will rot as (hopefully) survivors will kill the brain stem to stop new ones popping up. IIRC WWZ(the book,not the rubbish film) said zombies froze "oop north" but you had to be careful come the spring thaw

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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In the show/book, the 'Walking Dead' are the humans, they are all infected and as long as there are humans, there will be zombies. The threat will never go away, and as the episode in the prison showed (where people died en masse asleep, just saying death= hole in head doesn't/won't work.

In the book zombies do slow down/stop in cold, and if I recall correctly, the stories basically cover spring/summertime/hot months. I think the show is the same and the cold has been touched on in previous series.
Winter, as said, brings it's own issues without the backup of civilisation.

joema

2,654 posts

180 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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They haven't really been any where either in the books but the tv series seems to have its own lines.

North is a great suggestion. Sea maybe not as population along Coast was higher and the dead don't drown.


confucuis

1,303 posts

125 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I still don't think going north is an option. For it to be cold enough for the zombies to slow down it would become extremely difficult to feed themselves, I can't imagine Abraham knows how to farm! In world war Z they do go up north but are completely under prepared for it and very soon find out that zombies are the least of their worries.

lady topaz

3,855 posts

255 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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confucuis said:
I still don't think going north is an option. For it to be cold enough for the zombies to slow down it would become extremely difficult to feed themselves, I can't imagine Abraham knows how to farm! In world war Z they do go up north but are completely under prepared for it and very soon find out that zombies are the least of their worries.
Get in the spirit, I'm not talking Arctic just North America.

Yes it wouldn't be easy but generations have survived.

Erm think I'm taking this too seriously, maybe stick to seeing what pans out whilst shouting quietly about going oop north.

At least it might add an interesting twist. I too am getting a bit bored with same as same as, a blizzard or two might be a welcome addition.

FourWheelDrift

88,641 posts

285 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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One thing that I can never understand, with this or any other zombie film/tv is how a rotting old corpse can not only bite through flesh but clothing as well. I would have thought as soon as they tried their teeth would come out as the gums would be rotten. I don't think a live human with teeth like Desert Orchid could take a quick bite of someone by ripping through a pair of jeans.

Silverage

2,046 posts

131 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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None of it bears too much analysis. The biggest issue for me is where the zombies get their energy to move around from if most of them hardly ever eat. They never drink either so they would just dry up and fall to pieces within a couple of days/weeks.

One thing I do like is how the word "zombie" has never been used in any episode. Our group obviously call them "walkers" and each other group they meet has a different name, but the Z-word is never used. Presumably this is deliberate from the writers, but why?

FourWheelDrift

88,641 posts

285 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Silverage said:
One thing I do like is how the word "zombie" has never been used in any episode. Our group obviously call them "walkers" and each other group they meet has a different name, but the Z-word is never used. Presumably this is deliberate from the writers, but why?
There not using the Z word because it's ridiculous - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqNQbdD3kLw

smile

ESOG

1,705 posts

159 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Eugene could have kept the lie going forever by simply pretending to not be able to do what he hoped he could do when they arrived at whatever their destination was.